Well, seems our spendy has already got a snootful this fine e'en
The title of this thread was ID science or religion. This has been answered in fine writing style(simple and declarative by Judge jones)
ID IS RELIGION. IT IS CREATIONISM RE_LABELLED. IT CAME INTO BEING AFTER EDWARDS (1987) ITS FULL OF SELF CONTRADICTORY STATEMENTS AND , EMPLOYS AN ARGUMENT OF THOMAS AQUINAS AS ITS CORE THINKING. ITS HISTORY IS WELL UNDERSTOOD IN THE US AND A "REASONABLE PERSONTEST" WOULD ANSWER THE ABOVE WUESTION IN THE AFFIRMATIVE (YES VIRGINIA ITS RELIGION)
ITS "SCIENTIFIC ARGUMENTS" ARE NOT SCIENCE AT ALL
1 theyve all been refuted
2ID defies centuries old ground rules of science by employing supernatural causes in its force
3Irreducible Complexity employs the same flawed arguments (contrived dualism) that doomed the Creation SCiences in EDwards
4The scientific community has rejected ID
The key definition of Science by the National Academy suffices for thisw case, (since both sides stipulated to its prestige) The NAS rejects ID on a definitin basis
The main resource book "Of Pandas and people" has removed the word CREATIONISM and substituted InTELLIGENT DESIGN in no less than 150 places in the book (without any substantive change in place)
It was published by a spinoof of the Institute of SCientific Creationism, and was authored by 2 yound earth Creationists
I am finding judge Jobes opinion very entertaining. I believe that some how , some of our own discussion materials maybe were used in the case (hee hee).
spendius, If Iaze you, Id read this opinion. Itll demonstrate what good common sense writing is all about.It neednt be full of vague references, self congratulatory statements, and outright dizzyingly confusing passages. It just was good ole central Pa English in short choppy sentences (kinda like sports reporting). you can go to the ncse websight (among others )
http://www2.ncseweb.org/kvd/main_docs/kitzmiller_342.pdf