@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:He does know what he's talking about and I have respect for his ideas. We just disagree on a few things. And that's OK
It's the same with Frank Apisa and me. We do not discuss religious things, I keep my science separate from my beliefs.
I've known Frank for over 20 years, starting at Abuzz.
And for the record: "Intelligent Design" is a dead religious anti-science concept.
And BTW, I AM Dyslexic, too. Screw your bigotry.
One of our favorite people here (and at Abuzz) was Dyslexia, Bobsal. I had dinner in NYC with Dys, his wife, and several other A2Kers shortly before he passed. He would have loved to be part of this discussion!
Anyway...I'm going to broach the subject of religion here for a moment, because there are some thoughts that need be handled. I doubt what I say here will be any stepping on toes.
This entire conversation with The Anointed has become a joke. In fact, it has been a joke of sorts from the very beginning. He (or she) is a provocateur…an Internet troll and very little else.
My stance on the question of whether there is a GOD (or, are gods) is:
I do not know if any GOD (or gods) exist or not;
I see no reason to suspect that gods cannot exist…that the existence of a GOD or gods is impossible;
I see no reason to suspect that at least one GOD must exist...that the existence of at least one GOD is needed to explain existence;
I do not see enough unambiguous evidence upon which to base a meaningful guess in either direction on whether any gods exist or not...so I don't.
(When I use the word "GOD or gods" here, I mean "The entity (or entities) responsible for the creation of what we humans call 'the physical universe'...IF SUCH AN ENTITY OR ENTITIES ACTUALLY EXIST.)
Some people want to make that “guess.” I HA VE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. Some guess that no gods exist…and some guess that at least one GOD exists. One, seemingly by definition, is correct (obviously, I do not know which).
To pretend, as does The Anointed, that the guess “there is a GOD” is a product of reason, logic, or science…is an absurdity. The only reason I can see for pretending it is such a product, is because “the guess” includes further guesses about the nature of the GOD, which involves (requires) obligations on the part of humans toward the “GOD.” (I acknowledge that earlier in my life, I actually I actually made that guess and accepted that obligation.)
Even if The Anointed could make a reasoned, logical, scientific argument for the existence of a Creator God (something he/she fails to do), it would not extend to any obligations that accrue. The “religious” aspects are still a choice rather than something that reasonably ensues.
Just sayin'!