Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

There's nothing to get around. Saying anything is possible leads to all manner of silliness. Do you need a recap of the silly things that can be asserted as possible about you given that logic?

You are expressing a thought; there might be the existence of an intelligent designer. Where is the truth? How would you go about determining the truth?

no, he goes quite a bit further in his points. He discounts ALL that science...

seems to have found and equates it with ID " fact-free reasoning".
He says he doesnt do "Belief" so he doesnt believe that the data exists to support a natural world. Thats dishonesty to fail to admit ones ignorance.

I am perfectly aware of his opinions (Ive listend to his BS for maybe 7 or 8 years an, and while his positions never change, they are presented without any logical or systematic defense.

Many of us have asked him "CAn you provide the evidence that one would need to gather to even support the "if there were gods" assertion" What would be what youd look for? He ignores most reasonable questions of him because he likes machismo over admitting ignorance. Hes quick to insult, and when he is insulted back, he yells foul.

When you need to dismiss another side to make yours valid, you should at least understand that side... He doesnt.
Had he opened a discussion (many aeons ago) with his assertion an let it go, most of us would have agreed with his point and then stated the basis of method naturalism and let it go at that.
HOWEVER, you will find his tracks ALL OVER the site with his constant BS (always preseneted merely as an assertion with no concern about what the "if there were gods" position would need to be wporth consideration"


Youre new here, I am not. Frank has been here as a weasely little cudgel for many a year. His opinion is factually baseless but he fails to acknowledge it.
Even guys like gungasnake have the balls to find things to back up their worldviews. Frank is unable .
Ive got no time for him

You ought to be ashamed of what you have become from what you were at one time!

Frank wrote:

You ought to be ashamed of what you have become from what you were at one time!

If someone ought to be ashamed it should be you.

Bragging about knowing what other people think and telling them what they should say is the summit of arrogance.

Pretending to know that absence of belief is belief is pretending to know better than anyone else.

Go, Frank, brag along!

The fact is...that if there is the possibility of a god....there is the possibility of intelligent design. That seems to bother you.

If you disagree with that...tell me why...and we can discuss it. But don't paraphrase it and pretend to be discussing what I actually said.

Your beliefs do not bother me.

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The fact is...that if there is the possibility of a god....there is the possibility of intelligent design. That seems to bother you.

Your beliefs do not bother me.

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If you disagree with that...tell me why...and we can discuss it. But don't paraphrase it and pretend to be discussing what I actually said.

I don't disagree with your belief...

I disagree with your logic, which is simply another way of saying, "Anything is possible"

Ever since you crossed my path on this site, I consider you a pale imitation of a human being and a despicable individual.

I don't care about your clownesque retorts.

From what I can see, a lot of other posters consider you in such way.

Not that I expect you will ever change, it's too late for that..

You don't, Frank, not in a thousand years.

But you are just pretending as usual...

Pretending that you do doesn't make it true.

What bothers me is your weasel ways, attributing words and thoughts to people that don't have them..