Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?

@spendius,

Poor baby. Your own whine is Grand Crux.

@spendius,

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certainly are in a bad vapor today that you speak so traducingly of me.

Before you embark on that sort of self-pitying whining you ought to try to remember that I have been on my own in this debate and have taken more stick, uncomplainingly, than anybody on A2K has hitherto been subjected to.

One...you have not been on your own.

Two...you have not taken more stick (or ****) than anybody else on A2K.

Three...you have hardly been uncomplaining...although when you do complain, you usually allow others to do the complaining for you.

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@Frank Apisa,

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One...you have not been on your own.

I was referring to this thread.

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Two...you have not taken more stick (or ****) than anybody else on A2K.

Read it through.

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Three...you have hardly been uncomplaining...although when you do complain, you usually allow others to do the complaining for you.

I might have given some back but I've never claimed to be being put upon. (traduced).

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@farmerman,

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Poor baby. Your own whine is Grand Crux.

Now you are equating a reasoned argument against scientific materialism with a whine. It's a good job you and Apisa weren't in the same class at school. All the honours would have to be shared because it's impossible to separate two dickheads who mark their own exam papers.

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@spendius,

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One...you have not been on your own.

I was referring to this thread.

I understand you were referring to this thread. I have been with you (or part of you) during the entire thread. When I first mentioned the "If there is the possibility of a GOD...there is the possibility of intelligent design"...it was in support of what you were saying. I even mentioned that it was in support of what you were saying.

(I left A2K for a while after that disturbing first mention...and the reaction to it. But YOU WERE NOT ON YOUR OWN.)

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Two...you have not taken more stick (or ****) than anybody else on A2K.

Read it through.

I do not have to...I know how much crap I've taken...which, although I was essentially seconding your thesis, I took plenty from lyou.

You want to feel sorry for yourself...feel sorry for yourself. But if you want to assert you have taken more than anyone else...I want to at least suggest the possibility of you being wrong on that count.

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Three...you have hardly been uncomplaining...although when you do complain, you usually allow others to do the complaining for you.

I might have given some back but I've never claimed to be being put upon. (traduced).

You claimed to be uncomplaining...and I was being sarcastic about that assertion. Live with that or complain about it as you wish.

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What has happened to the ads we used to have on A2K? I was engaged in a scientific study of how we were being profiled by various commercial outfits.

It started when I saw a dogging advert come up on the atheist threads.

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

What has happened to the ads we used to have on A2K? I was engaged in a scientific study of how we were being profiled by various commercial outfits.

It started when I saw a dogging advert come up on the atheist threads.

Good observation, Spendius. I actually missed that they were gone.

Hummm...where have they gone...and who made them go there?

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spendi, Good observation! It seems most of us ignore ads that pop up on different sites, and don't miss them when they disappear. LOL

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@Frank Apisa,

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I understand you were referring to this thread. I have been with you (or part of you) during the entire thread. When I first mentioned the "If there is the possibility of a GOD...there is the possibility of intelligent design"...it was in support of what you were saying. I even mentioned that it was in support of what you were saying.

Well--it wasn't in support of what I was saying. And if you think it was you were MYOEP again. I will be the judge on what supports my position.

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I left A2K for a while

Yeah--like a few years. A good few. I like being on my own in noisy arguments. I don't need any supports. I've wiped the floor with them, wrung them out and chucked them in a corner of an outhouse. But I must admit I have all the best writers in English Literature filling my sails.

Jane Austen didn't do the birds and the bees like Darwin did.

timberlanko once said he might be starting to get an inkling of my position but --alas--timber died.

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@spendius,

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Now you are equating a reasoned argument against scientific materialism with a whine.

Perhaps that is the way you see it but I think that if you posted it up youd have more laughter than response.
Any theory, despite the numbers supporting it, rises on its own facts. In this thread, the simple fact, repeatedly proven by you and several others , is that ID is religion , and as such , MUST be kept out of the biology classroom in US public schools. ANYTHING ELSE is nothing more than irrelevant pouting and argumentive nonsense. Weve seen a lot of that from you here and Im just along to bring the occasional readers back to the main theme.

HOWEVER, despite your protestations,

When I read something really scientific , I usually respond. Ive yet to see anything from you that isn't tiringly repetitious, idiotic, and cumbersome. (not to mention, written like one of Bulwar Lytton's toadies)
Learn to write with some coherence and economy, itll at least give your arguments an appearance that you've thought about something for more than a nanosecond, and that you weren't trying to expel seven points in one breath.

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@farmerman,

Ill leave you two continue the lovers spat. My work is done for today.

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@farmerman,

I'll try to deal with that farrago of futile flummery after my evening soaky-soakie.

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@spendius,

You probably wont sound any more incoherent when youre drunk

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

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I understand you were referring to this thread. I have been with you (or part of you) during the entire thread. When I first mentioned the "If there is the possibility of a GOD...there is the possibility of intelligent design"...it was in support of what you were saying. I even mentioned that it was in support of what you were saying.

Well--it wasn't in support of what I was saying. And if you think it was you were MYOEP again. I will be the judge on what supports my position.

It WAS in support of what you WERE saying at that time (although you tend to change your positions like a teenage schoolgirl)...and I really do not care what you judge my position to be.

I read everything you write, Spendius...but more and more it is for the unintended entertainment value than for any intellectual contribution.

And I will determine what I will second and what I will support.

You have a good day, ole friend.

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@Frank Apisa,

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It started when I saw a dogging advert come up on the atheist threads.

Omfg, this is brilliant! I'd be tempted to unignore spendi if this was the standard insight.

Look up Internet bubble and cookies, ponder that web advertising is sophisticated enough to know your personal interests as well as the content you're reading and match a potential sale. Not surprised spendi, on an atheist thread would be getting dogging ads, it is the mental equivalent of ******* in a public, place. Ooh the thrill of being caught in an embarrassing act (mental or physical)

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@Frank Apisa,

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unintended entertainment

It is not unintended you silly, old MYOEPerer.

I cannot imagine going on a site like this without the first priority being to entertain the onlookers. Whether one does so in any individual case is not a factor. Tastes vary a great deal. Many literary works of excellence have elucidated the phenomena while refraining from stating it. Setting characters in motion which are given different tastes and seeing what conclusions they arrive at.

I have not changed my position one scorrick. Saying I have is more of the same and I assume there will be plenty more to follow.

And you wouldn't know what an "intellectual contribution" was if it came gift wrapped by special messenger.

Intellectuals are odious rascals to a man. The fact that American intellectuals all sold out in the 20s and 30s in order to get in on the party is nothing to do with me. I have been reading about it in Prof. Hofstadter's cute little book. It was more comforting being respectable you see despite having to pretend to be an intellectual thereafter.

And teenage schoolgirls, sixth formers of course, don't get enough time to change position.

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@spendius,

Hey, spendi, that was entertainment at its best. Thx. Mr. Green

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@farmerman,

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Perhaps that is the way you see it but I think that if you posted it up youd have more laughter than response.

I am not bothered whether they laugh or cry. I was simply demonstrating to viewers here that you equate a reasoned argument against scientific materialism with a whine. Thus, once again MYOEP.

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Any theory, despite the numbers supporting it, rises on its own facts.

Fair enough apart from the 4 words between the commas and the fact that there are different sorts of facts. There are social facts and there are facts about inert matter. They are in collision on here. And elsewhere.

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is that ID is religion

I think it is a business proposition. But the concept of intelligent design could be used to approach every aspect of biology.

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Im just along to bring the occasional readers back to the main theme.

The main theme is the classroom and its social function of preparing the young for the future in good form. I have explained that once already. Only last week.

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When I read something really scientific

"Really"? Where did a word like that come from? That really is funny. In two different ways. Shouldn't it be "really, really, really, really scientific.

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itll at least give your arguments an appearance that you've thought about something for more than a nanosecond

A nanosecond is sufficient for me to think about anything you post.

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and that you weren't trying to expel seven points in one breath.

I often am. With MYOEP there's a lot more than seven. All rolled up in a neat little packet.

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@hingehead,

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it is the mental equivalent of ******* in a public,

Don't kid yourself my leetle cheekadee.

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@spendius,

You're on a roll, spendi. I see a new dawning for you! LOL

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