Is faith healing real?

Actually, ISP addresses answer your charge very well, with 40,000+ members, the contention that one person is posting from 40,000+ different computers makes an absurdity of that little bit of paranoia.

0 Replies

I've met timberlandko. I can prove he exists. I've got photos.

Setanta's met me and timberlandko. He can prove we exist. He's not so good with photos though.

~~~~~~~~~~

What was the date of the Benny Hinn event you attended, gospelman? I'm still trying to track down the coverage you'd mentioned.

0 Replies

It ain't the photos that are the problem, i can't remember where i put the camera . . .

0 Replies

I think I understand now. Some of you guys aren't interested in real discussion. You are more interested in having a rousing game of "kick the Christian" What's the problem.... are some of you REALLY wondering about faith healing?

0 Replies

gospelmancan2 wrote:

New question: Since I have had no evidence to the contrary how do I know that timberlandko exists? How do I know that it isn't all the same person using different names to spark interest in this web site? For that matter how do I know I even exist because I can't prove that to timberlandko either?

Thats a different thread called Who Exists? : http://www.able2know.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=47501

Where you can explore that possibility at length.

I know timberlandko exists, he always pops up when I least expect it to add insightful posts to threads. Well usually. Twisted Evil

0 Replies

Setanta wrote:

Actually, ISP addresses answer your charge very well, with 40,000+ members, the contention that one person is posting from 40,000+ different computers makes an absurdity of that little bit of paranoia.

I think we need to go out looking for some people's senses of humor.

0 Replies

gospelmancan2 wrote:

I think I understand now. Some of you guys aren't interested in real discussion. You are more interested in having a rousing game of "kick the Christian" What's the problem.... are some of you REALLY wondering about faith healing?

I didn't notice - was I kicking myself?

0 Replies

gospelmancan2 wrote:

I think I understand now. Some of you guys aren't interested in real discussion. You are more interested in having a rousing game of "kick the Christian" What's the problem.... are some of you REALLY wondering about faith healing?

Unbelievable.

Dude:

Here is the original post that started this thread:

"I have been doing much research on healing, Edgar Cayce could diagnose and then name the person who could heal you. what I'm looking for is one single documented case of deliverance from terminal illness. (besides the Bible) through touching praying or any other means."

Then some Christians came along (arguably hijacking the thread--but thats okay)--they came along and said they know Faith Healing is real and they have proof.

All we are saying is fine, where is the proof? Show us the proof?

Actually, some of us have admitted we wished it were true! I think it would be great!

If a scientist comes in and says "I have the cure for cancer" and other scientists say "Great, where's the proof?"

Are they kicking him? Really?

You must know when one makes such claims, people deserve proof.

Well I guess I can just say I joined a group that believes we can fly and read your mind and go back in time. And we are going to post on the internet on threads that ask about flying humans and time travel.

You want me to prove we can do these things? Why do you want to kick us people that believe this and post here about it? You're probably not even real! Excuse me, I must go fly.

0 Replies

Setanta wrote:

So, Gospelman, how much did you spend when you went to see Benny Hinn?

I may have bought a coffee. I can't remember.

0 Replies

The tendancy of christians to appeal to martyrdom is a sure sign of desparation. Gospelman has referred us to a doctor in Peterborough named Gary Hill. CPSO lists a single physician in Ontario by that name, who is indeed listed as an employee of the institution named. And he has no hospital privileges. How the hell does a doctor practice medicine without hospital privileges? Does he treat patients on an emergency basis, and then quick refer them to another physician who has privileges and can admit the patient to a hospital? Very odd.

More to the point, Gospelman contends he has seen faith healing in operation at a Benny Hinn meeting in Toronto. Even a casual search of the internet turns up thousands of results for Benny Hinn, and so far, everyone i've seen, from scientific organizations to evangelical christian sites claims he's a fraud and a con man.

It ain't lookin' good for the Gospelman here . . .

0 Replies

It was prolly Irish coffee. Wink

0 Replies

I often wonder if I'm real myself.

Anyhow - A lady identifying herself as "Liz" at the Peterborough Regional Medical Center Emergency Admitting Desk says indeed a Dr. Gary Hill works there - and in Emergency Medicine. He was not available. Emphasizing there was no emergency involved, I asked Liz to leave a message requesting Dr. Hill contact me by mail, email, FAX, or telephone at his soonest convenience. Should there be anything in the way of an update, I'll update.

0 Replies

ehBeth wrote:

What was the date of the Benny Hinn event you attended, gospelman? I'm still trying to track down the coverage you'd mentioned.

I wish I had the date at hand but I don't. He has only been there about three or four times in the last few years. It was at Maple Leaf Gardens if that is any
help.

0 Replies

Well Imust admit it would be kind of darkly hilarious if gospelman & newlife & the rest get healed in the Good News Wing of the hospital,while the rest of us schmucks rot from some unidentifiable disease.

If that happens, would you pray for me, gospelman?

0 Replies

Setanta wrote:

Gospelman has referred us to a doctor in Peterborough named Gary Hill. CPSO lists a single physician in Ontario by that name, who is indeed listed as an employee of the institution named. And he has no hospital privileges. How the hell does a doctor practice medicine without hospital privileges? Does he treat patients on an emergency basis, and then quick refer them to another physician who has privileges and can admit the patient to a hospital? Very odd.

He works directly for the hospital in emergency. He has no private practice or patients and thusly has no need for the hospital privileges as he already works there. I also suggest you read elsewhere that timberlandko
has a call into the elusive Dr. Hill who does seem to exist after all.
Maybe not looking so bad for Gospelman after all.

0 Replies

extra medium wrote:

Well Imust admit it would be kind of darkly hilarious if gospelman & newlife & the rest get healed in the Good News Wing of the hospital,while the rest of us schmucks rot from some unidentifiable disease.

If that happens, would you pray for me, gospelman?

Gladly and I would expect it to work.

0 Replies

I've not denied the existence of Gary Vernon Hill, given that such an individual is named by the CPSO, and is shown practicing at the Peterborough facility which you named. Having no hospital privileges, however, means that he cannot admit patients to inpatient care in a hospital, and it means that he can only practice in an outpatient setting--which is an extremely unusual situation.

0 Replies

gospelmancan2 wrote:

extra medium wrote:
Well Imust admit it would be kind of darkly hilarious if gospelman & newlife & the rest get healed in the Good News Wing of the hospital,while the rest of us schmucks rot from some unidentifiable disease.

If that happens, would you pray for me, gospelman?

Gladly and I would expect it to work.

What if I said, "No need for that. I am ready for Jesus to take me now. Why are you praying that I remain on this carnal earth? I will sin more here in the human body. Why do you want me to stay longer in this body born of sin? Do you wish ill of me? I will be better off when this physical body is dead. You must hate me to want to keep me in this world longer. All ye Faith Healers are actually people of little faith--you have so little faith you will be in heaven after you die, you cling to this body like scared children--begging it to be healed--do you truly not believe that the sheperd is waiting for you after you die? Faith Healing is a demonstration of little true faith, and a lot of fear."

"He who loves his life on earth will lose it. He who hates his life will gain everlasting life."

0 Replies

Setanta wrote:

I've not denied the existence of Gary Vernon Hill, given that such an individual is named by the CPSO, and is shown practicing at the Peterborough facility which you named. Having no hospital privileges, however, means that he cannot admit patients to inpatient care in a hospital, and it means that he can only practice in an outpatient setting--which is an extremely unusual situation.

Not in Ontario

0 Replies

ehBeth, who works on a daily basis with these matters, has already stated the contrary. It is not my place to say where she works and what she does, but knowing those things, i'll take her word over yours. Furthermore, after spending three years in the U.S. Army Medical Corps, and working in civilian hospital emergency rooms after i was separated from the service, i can say with a good deal of confidence that your statement is a lot of horsie poop.

0 Replies

Is faith healing real?

Related Topics

Quick Links

My Account

able2know