Is faith healing real?

But don't you wish it was? It would be fantastic - and dang cheap.

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unfortunately capitalism sally says no

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and yes

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that must be what it is.

faith healing was real until evil american capitalists made it illegal. they wanted to make money off their mostly ineffectual drugs.

look--if doctor's even try it, they ban them

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sources
If any of you are interested I will provide proof sources this evening after I spend a little time with my family. Wouldn't you like to know the truth, are you not searching for the answers? They can be found on the leading edge of science. Science will have proven creationism by the time its over. A true religous zealot has no need for this forum. Only those that are still seeking would spend valuable time exploring other opinions and vantages here. If you want to toss insults and obscure personal opinion outside of reality, just join the neo-con movement and believe their deception. If they can fool you, surely you don't use the Hubble.

This debate has just begun fellow inhabitants, if you want to reach a higher level of understanding than OPEN YOUR MINDS,do not use your knowledge to dispell a statement summerly, from your vantage you may not have a clear picture.

And with that I will say to whoever wants to vibrate ill will toward me because of my beliefs. please keep an extra close eye on the sources and read up on it. You will then find out that YOU are only hurting yourself. You are holding yourself back in a manner of speaking.
acsension is the goal (not up ) move ahead. LOVE

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pug, I have to admire your expository style!

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Algis.Kemezys wrote:

why?

I used to wonder how some folks happened to have so many posts.

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This debate has just begun fellow inhabitants, if you want to reach a higher level of understanding than OPEN YOUR MINDS,do not use your knowledge to dispell a statement summerly, from your vantage you may not have a clear picture.

Sounds like fun to me.

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pug, I'd like to see you succeed in getting your points across. So tell me, did you mean summerly or summarily?

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As promised
Subject: Source # 1

Quantum Bioholography and DNA

In the rapidly advancing field of genetic science Richard Miller relates the human genome to a computer model. This model asserts universal energy field connections between genetic expression and creative consiousness. According to Miller, et al., from the orginization for the advaqncement of Knowledge, in Grants pass Oregon "complex information can be encoded in electromagnetic (EM) fields" as we all know from coding and decoding of television and radio signals. "However, even more information can be encoded in holographic images.

Research shows that DNA, in fact, produces its amazing creative effects by acting as a holographic projector of acoustic data, reports Miller, et al., " DNA contains the informational quintessence of the human biohologram." The following is a summary if thier thesis:

Only 3% of DNA encodes the physical body. The remaining 97% of the 3 billion base pair genome contains over a million genetic structures called
transposons, that have the capacity to jump from one chromosomal location to another. ( Kelleher, 1999)source Kelleher CA. Retransposons as engines of human bodily transformation, J, Sci Explor, 1999 (spring) ;13;1:9-24....".you are 99.9% identical to other human beings in shared genetics." "Your individualality is expressed through three small variations of cells called single nucleotide polymorphisims"...gene expression is the mechan nism by which new patterns are called into being "from these small variations". (Rossi,2000) (The Psychobiology of Gene Expression: Neurogenisis in hypnosis and The Healing Arts. New York; W.W Norton professional books, 2002..... The holographic concept of genetic expression that results in precipitated reality, according to Miller et. al. operates using both photons and phonons( Miller,Webb, Dickson, 1975 ) see above orginization(are you listening my friend in the Romulin prison?) "Superimposed coherent waves of different types in the cells interact to form diffraction patterns, firstly in the acoustic domain, secondly in the electromagnetic domain". The resulting manifestation is a "Quantum Hologram-a translation process between accoustical and optical holograms.

now here we go folks...

This process is affected by various theraputic modalities. "Creative, novel, and enriching psychotheraputic experiances,"for example, can have a long-term transformative effect on the whole person." (Rossi,2002).

Thus our genetic understanding of bioholography has relevance to optimizing health, well-being, and even self realization. It is relevant in boiphysics, medicine, psychobiology, psychtherapy, and the holistic healing arts and sciences. Givin this knowledge. we gain a "genetically integrated model of the complex dynamics of the mindbody-one arising in the domain underlying the standard genetic code triplett model."(Miller,Webb,2002)

The above is directly from Dr. Lenard Horowitz (DNA Pirates of the Sacred Spiral, page 413,414,415) Please read the whole book.

This compilation of research is the most current collection of information available that puts together the reality of where science is today and how it relates to the corporate world conglomerates. (Medium, you are rare, your post indicates you know some thing about what has happened).

Some thoughts I have.....
There are those who will reject the truth when told, and some who will seek, find and be truly released.

If any of you doubt that at least one person in the history of man has connected and recieved. Then you yourself will never recieve.

The above is a grain of sand in an unbeiliveable... massive jigsaw puzzle which I have amassed a handfull of while standing on the beach of our reality.

I'll be Bach.

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My apologies
Please accept my apology for my spelling, this spell check isnt working properly. In that respect I guess you can say I'm a Newbie!
Love.

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When will you Bach? You won't subject us to any more of those damned string concerti, will you?

Your redaction of your last post demonstrates that one need not rely upon the spell check. I commend you on adopting a more thorough standard for your posts.

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Neo- you know which one I mean. And thank you , I want to get "the big point across too..... but," pal o mine" its going take some time.

People, ask yourself a question. What is the hologram in your head made of ? and ,How can concentration effect matter, soft tissue, environment and state of mental health?

There are documented healings in controlled laboratories with Dolphins. Which by the way are somewhat more advanced beings than we are. Science has proven that the Dolphin can communicate with many other Dolphins directionally and up to 35 miles, and say 4 different things at the same moment(like having 4 minds talking at the same time), and fully heard by the other Dolphin(s). DNA can correct itself through the use of nanotechnology, syncronizing the vibrations on a molecular level.

Look into this, investigate for yourselves.

puglia

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James 5:13- it says: Is any one of you in trouble? He should pray. Is anyone happy? Let him sing songs of praise. Is any one of you sick? He should call the elders of the church to pray over him and anoint him with oil in the name of the Lord. And the prayer offered in faith will make the sick person well; the Lord will raise him up

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Puglia, you've convinced me.

Now, i have a great deal for you. I happen to have acquired title to a bridge in New York, but really haven't the time or the energy to rake in the mountains of cash that the tolls would represent. I could let you have it at a real discount . . .

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Puglia, your first post has a few errors in it, even if it is was not written by you.

Firstly, we know only the functions of approximately 5% of our human genome. That is not the same as saying 95% of the human genome has no function. Quite a lot of it may have regulatory functions.

I would appreciate it if you cleaned up your post about DNA holograms, such that it is easier to read. I've read some pretty difficult to understand research papers in my time, but the way you've presented the text in Dr. Horowitz's book is horrible.

I'm having difficulties understanding what is going on there.

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There are documented healings in controlled laboratories with Dolphins. Which by the way are somewhat more advanced beings than we are.

The first sentence beggars belief. If there is documentation, show us where we can find it. I tried searching for this healing by dolphins using Entrez PubMed. I turned up nothing. I used Scholar.Google and turned up nothing.

That last sentence falls into the misconception that because something is more evolved, means it is more advanced.

Now dolphins are not more evolved nor are they more advanced. They are possibly equally as intelligent, just as sociable as we are and have the benefits of not polluting the world like we do.

They are not more advanced than us. They are more suited to their environment than we are to theirs and vice versa.

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Science has proven that the Dolphin can communicate with many other Dolphins directionally and up to 35 miles, and say 4 different things at the same moment(like having 4 minds talking at the same time), and fully heard by the other Dolphin(s).

What has this got to do with faith healing?

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DNA can correct itself through the use of nanotechnology, syncronizing the vibrations on a molecular level.

Look into this, investigate for yourselves.

puglia

DNA does not correct itself.

Through the use of specific repair mechanisms, utilising protein complexes, DNA can be repaired. However, in some cases, damage occurs that cannot be repaired, thus triggering apoptosis (programmed cell suicide) in the cell.

I've seen proof that faith healing is bogus and have been shown no proof that it is otherwise.

Therefore, through my investigations, I have come to this conclusion:

The statement that, "faith healing is nothing more than quackery and at best, a placebo" is more true than the statement, "faith healing is real and provides real results".

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Wolf, you wont get away with dismissing the theory because its too complicated to follow. I;m not very good with computers yet. but I will improve. I dont feel like cleaning it up really. I told you I would provide a source. I have, I do not feel the need to correct a published document, it is word for word.
I dont understand why you are having so many problems looking up research on Dolphins, over a Million papers have been published on that subject also. I suspect you should look into "Entrainment"....Entrainment has been defined by practitioners of rife frequency theraputics as "the tendancy for two oscillating bodies to lock into phase so that they vibrate in harmony It is also defined as syncronization of two or more rhythmic cycles. Like resonance, the principal of entrainment is universal, appearing in chemistry, pharmacology, biology, psycology, sociology, astronomy, architechture, and more (Hyson,2004) Page 453

Compared to Dolphins we are almost blind, almost deaf, have a smaller brain and shorter evolutionary history.

awaken

You cant get away with attacking the messenger, when the message is not agreeable to you. (enough of that is going on these days ) you can try it but my guess is that most of you guys see through that kind of shallow and naked eye tactic.

Its ok Wolf, I love you still.
Next up piezioelctricity in your system.

have a good day everybody.
Love

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Wolf_ODonnell wrote:

Puglia, your first post has a few errors in it, even if it is was not written by you.

Firstly, we know only the functions of approximately 5% of our human genome. That is not the same as saying 95% of the human genome has no function. Quite a lot of it may have regulatory functions.

I would appreciate it if you cleaned up your post about DNA holograms, such that it is easier to read. I've read some pretty difficult to understand research papers in my time, but the way you've presented the text in Dr. Horowitz's book is horrible.

I'm having difficulties understanding what is going on there.

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There are documented healings in controlled laboratories with Dolphins. Which by the way are somewhat more advanced beings than we are.

The first sentence beggars belief. If there is documentation, show us where we can find it. I tried searching for this healing by dolphins using Entrez PubMed. I turned up nothing. I used Scholar.Google and turned up nothing.

That last sentence falls into the misconception that because something is more evolved, means it is more advanced.

Now dolphins are not more evolved nor are they more advanced. They are possibly equally as intelligent, just as sociable as we are and have the benefits of not polluting the world like we do.

They are not more advanced than us. They are more suited to their environment than we are to theirs and vice versa.

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Science has proven that the Dolphin can communicate with many other Dolphins directionally and up to 35 miles, and say 4 different things at the same moment(like having 4 minds talking at the same time), and fully heard by the other Dolphin(s).

What has this got to do with faith healing?

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DNA can correct itself through the use of nanotechnology, syncronizing the vibrations on a molecular level.

Look into this, investigate for yourselves.

puglia

DNA does not correct itself.

Through the use of specific repair mechanisms, utilising protein complexes, DNA can be repaired. However, in some cases, damage occurs that cannot be repaired, thus triggering apoptosis (programmed cell suicide) in the cell.

I've seen proof that faith healing is bogus and have been shown no proof that it is otherwise.

Therefore, through my investigations, I have come to this conclusion:

The statement that, "faith healing is nothing more than quackery and at best, a placebo" is more true than the statement, "faith healing is real and provides real results".

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Wolf has seen proof that faith healing is bogus! Will you please share this with all of us so we might cease this forum?

I'm sure you realize Wolfie that lack of sight from your vantage point only causes you to have an obstructed veiw, others are positioned elsewhere and thus can see past your obstruction. By the way where are your proof sources that the info I presented are 95% not 97%? Wolfie we all are some of the most advanced technology on earth. but still capable of fault.
Love
DNA is the sacred spiral.

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puglia wrote:

Wolf, you wont get away with dismissing the theory because its too complicated to follow. I;m not very good with computers yet. but I will improve. I dont feel like cleaning it up really.

puglia, if you don't make your posts readable, they will not be read. Just because there may be an enticing enchilada on your polysyllabic smorgasbord is no reason for me to swallow the table.

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