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The Hillary wants to run in 2020 Thread

 
 
Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2018 04:29 pm

Hillary Will Run Again
Reinventing herself as a liberal firebrand, Mrs. Clinton will easily capture the 2020 nomination.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/hillary-will-run-again-1541963599
Get ready for Hillary Clinton 4.0. More than 30 years in the making, this new version of Mrs. Clinton, when she runs for president in 2020, will come full circle—back to the universal-health-care-promoting progressive firebrand of 1994. True to her name, Mrs. Clinton will fight this out until the last dog dies. She won’t let a little thing like two stunning defeats stand in the way of her claim to the White House.

It’s been quite a journey. In July 1999, Mrs. Clinton began her independent political career on retiring Sen. Daniel Patrick Moynihan’s farm in upstate New York. Her Senate platform included support for a balanced budget, the death penalty and incremental health-care reform. It was a decisive break from her early-1990s self. Hillary Clinton 2.0 was a moderate, building on the success of her communitarian “It Takes a Village” appeals and pledging to bring home the bacon for New York. She emphasized her religious background, voiced strong support for Israel, voted for the Iraq war, and took a hard line against Iran.

This was arguably the most successful version of Hillary Clinton. She captured the hearts and minds of New York’s voters and soared to an easy re-election in 2006, leaving Bill and all his controversies behind.


But Hillary 2.0 could not overcome Barack Obama, the instant press sensation. During the 2008 presidential campaign, Mrs. Clinton held fast to centrist positions that would have assured her victory in the general election. But progressive leaders and donors abandoned her for the antiwar Mr. Obama. Black voters who had been strong Clinton supporters in New York and Arkansas left her column to elect the first African-American president. History was made, but not by Mrs. Clinton. Though she won more delegates from Democratic primaries, activists in caucus states gave Mr. Obama, who had called her “likable enough,” the heartbreaking win.

Licking her wounds, Mrs. Clinton served as secretary of state while she planned her comeback. It was during this time that the more liberal Hillary 3.0 emerged. She believed she could never win a primary as a moderate, so she entered the 2016 primary as a progressive like Mr. Obama. Then she moved further left as Sen. Bernie Sanders came closer to derailing her nomination. This time she was able to contain her opponent’s support, crucially by bringing African-American voters into her camp.

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But Mrs. Clinton’s transformation during the primaries, especially on social and cultural issues, cost her an easy win against Donald Trump. As Hillary 3.0 catered to the coastal elites who had eluded her in 2008, Mr. Trump stole many of the white working-class voters who might have been amenable to the previous version. Finally she had the full support of the New York Times and the other groups that had shunned her for Mr. Obama—but only at the cost of an unforeseen collapse in support in the Midwest.

Claims of a Russian conspiracy and the unfairness of the Electoral College shielded Mrs. Clinton from ever truly conceding she had lost. She was robbed, she told herself, yet again. But after two years of brooding—including at book length—Mrs. Clinton has come unbound. She will not allow this humiliating loss at the hands of an amateur to end the story of her career. You can expect her to run for president once again. Maybe not at first, when the legions of Senate Democrats make their announcements, but definitely by the time the primaries are in full swing.

Mrs. Clinton has a 75% approval rating among Democrats, an unfinished mission to be the first female president, and a personal grievance against Mr. Trump, whose supporters pilloried her with chants of “Lock her up!” This must be avenged.

Expect Hillary 4.0 to come out swinging. She has decisively to win those Iowa caucus-goers who have never warmed up to her. They will see her now as strong, partisan, left-leaning and all-Democrat—the one with the guts, experience and steely-eyed determination to defeat Mr. Trump. She has had two years to go over what she did wrong and how to take him on again.

Richard Nixon came back from his loss to John F. Kennedy in 1960 and won the presidency in 1968. He will be the model for winning again. Mrs. Clinton won’t travel the country in a van with Huma Abedin this time, doing small events and retail politics. Instead she will enter through the front door, mobilizing the army of professional women behind her, leveraging her social networks, and raking in donations. She will hope to emerge as an unstoppable force to undo Mr. Trump, running on the #MeToo movement, universal health care and gun control. Proud and independent, this time she will sideline Bill and Mr. Obama, limiting their role to fundraising.

The generation of Democrats who have been waiting to take over the party from the Clintons will be fuming that she is back and stealing their show. But they revealed themselves to be bungling amateurs in the Brett Kavanaugh nomination fight, with their laughable Spartacus moments. She will trounce them. Just as Mr. Trump cleared the field, Mrs. Clinton will take down rising Democratic stars like bowling pins. Mike Bloomberg will support her rather than run, and Joe Biden will never be able to take her on.

Don’t pay much attention to the “I won’t run” declarations. Mrs. Clinton knows both Mr. Clinton and Mr. Obama declared they weren’t running, until they ran. She may even skip Iowa and enter the race later, but rest assured that, one way or another, Hillary 4.0 is on the way.

Mr. Penn was a pollster and senior adviser to Bill and Hillary Clinton from 1995-2008. Mr. Stein is a former Democratic Manhattan borough president and president of the New York City Council.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2018 05:21 pm
Why edgar?
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Lash
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2018 06:25 pm
I think this is her getting someone to float this boat for her, but she and they should know with no doubt—her presidential boat sank. Forever.

Some decent chick should be the first president with a vagina.

Someone else.

Almost anyone else.

Bueller?

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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2018 06:29 pm
She can run but she can't hide.
roger
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2018 08:05 pm
@edgarblythe,
Heck yeah. It's Her Turn.


again
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2018 09:21 pm
@edgarblythe,
I think it would be futile for Hillary to run again. There are people who still think she ran a child bordello in a Pizza restaurant in D.C., it unhinged one man to drive from North Carolina to the restaurant and fire a rifle demanding he be given access to the non-existant basement where the imaginary children were being imaginarily pimped out.

While we have weak-minded people who believe Info-Wars, Breitbart, Rush Limbaugh and thrive on bullshit fairy-dust stories because they HAVE to believe every disagreement is a battle between good (them) and evil (anybody else) we will not choose the best, we will choose the most entertaining. Entertaining as in Jerry Springer and Maurey Povich, certainly not anything that requires skills, talent and patriotism.
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2018 09:57 pm
@edgarblythe,
Penn is about as conservative a Democrat as you will find today and Stein is the leader of "Democrats for Trump."

I don't think anyone should trust them as insiders, but it certainly won't surprise me if she does run.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Mon 12 Nov, 2018 10:57 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
I apologize, I didn't realize you were a devotee of Alex Jones, Limbaugh or Breitbart. I can't tell you I think those outlets are normal and not crazy pants, but I will defend your right to believe in crazy pants. THIS is America.
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 04:18 am
@edgarblythe,


... just what we need, another sequel.

Quote:
"Time travel is risky... if we do it right, we can set things back to the way things should be."

"The world's biggest disaster finally bites it."

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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 05:45 am
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:


I don't think anyone should trust them as insiders, but it certainly won't surprise me if she does run.

When there is dirty money to rake in, be assured there is a Clinton, figuring out a way to get their hands on it.

Still waiting on Chelsea to ante up for the big game.
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 06:14 am
Not really surprised that Penn would do a hit job on Clinton to make a grab for relevancy, especially after their falling out a decade ago. Am a bit surprised that anyone would believe it. The WSJ used to have higher standards under their previous owners.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 06:52 am
@Lash,
Its amazing how an alnost entire shelf full of "Folk tales" have arisen about the Clintons yet there is
1. not a shred of evidence that can be mustered (besides hearsay and BS claims)
and
2. No cases have been filed anywhere by any agency or individuals

Ya think most of your Clinton dreams are just more Bullshit conspiracies,(What dya feel about 9/11?

Smile


STill, having said that, I wish Mrs Clinton all good wishes and hope that she does NOT decide to enter the 2020 race. Id really like to get rid of TRUMP, he is a self-dealing POS(possibly a criminal) that must be voted out so our economic place on the planet can be restored (if its possible). I dont think Ms Clinton can mount uch a campaign becaus , she too has a mouth that can go off in any direction .

BUT REALLY It always takes a DEM to fix things, just as OBAMA fixed the llast mess and now Trump has made up much of his career on that launching pad.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 07:14 am
There are a lot of people who consistently vote for Democrats who despise Hillary. That alone should end this nonsense.

Hillary annoys too many of us.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 08:41 am
I've consistently said on here that I often post articles and links I don't necessarily totally agree with. There are points in the above article I may or may not agree with. Many of my posted links are there to get a read of others' opinions. Bottom line, however, she is hands down the surest way to reelect der fuhrer.
maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 09:19 am
@edgarblythe,
How can Hillary Clinton... who attacked the women credibly accusing her husband of sexual assault and (in the case of Juanita Broaddrick) of rape, run as part of the #MeToo movement? She shut down their testimony by accusing them of being part of a political "conspiracy".

This really makes no sense. Hillary Clinton is on the wrong side of the #MeToo movement.

neptuneblue
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 09:24 am
@maxdancona,
It was an opinion piece that ran in the WSJ. It wasn't news, it was designed to rile up Trump's base. And lookie here, boy did it work!!!

Trumpers believe every stupid thing they read, don't they?
engineer
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 09:41 am
@edgarblythe,
Yes, "you report, we decide".
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maxdancona
 
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Reply Tue 13 Nov, 2018 09:43 am
@neptuneblue,
Red hats, pink hats... there isn't that much difference between Trump supporters and Clinton supporters. It is a shame that one of them had to win.
 

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