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What do Progressives/Democratic Socialists want from the House in 2019-2020

 
 
Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 08:53 am
Ok, so Democrat’s control the house. They have the ability to pass legislation. They have the ability to subpoena people. They have the ability to put Republican opposition and maybe Democratic opposition on the record for/against legislation.

What do the progressives want to see Pelosi do with this power? What goals are you hoping to see?

What will piss you off most?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 08:56 am
@maporsche,
since Impeachment power resides in the House first, I feel that FINANCIAL DISCLOSURE of the president needs to be pushed hard.
So much of hat Plump;s not doing is because hes protecting hi Family Investments by direct action. That needs to be looked at in terms of the Emoluments Clauses
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 09:00 am
@maporsche,
First things first:
I don't want Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House. She is terrible at her job and was one of the major factors for the Democrats losing the House of Representatives to the Republicans in the first place.

A pile of broken cement bricks is more charismatic and competent than Pelosi.
farmerman
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 09:16 am
@tsarstepan,
the GOP does it all the time. Why must a party be stuck with some "Legacy" speaker. Theyve got scads of new talent , most actually know how to work their cell phones
maxdancona
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 10:11 am
@maporsche,
I hope the Democratic led House is smart enough to hold back and let Mueller do his job.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 10:30 am
@farmerman,
I think Pelosi will win because most Democrats support her. What she did while she was in charge was huge.

I don’t see a real challenger to her speakership. But I could be surprised.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:15 am
@farmerman,
I agree, I also hope there is some way to protect Mueller's investigation from Trump. I don't want him impeached, I thought I did until it was pointed out Pence would just be president and he is as bad if not worse on policies, both foreign and domestic than Trump is. Plus he don't have Trump's destructive hang-ups. Lastly, the Senate would never remove him from office.

But what I want from the House if what they all campaigned on, health care and other domestic issues such as that. Even if it don't pass the Senate they can keep doing the right thing and it will pay off at some point.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:17 am
@revelette1,
Just listened to some blah-blah from #45. Sounds like he's picked up on a lot of Dem positions that he thinks are winners and is trying to set them up as his initiatives - so it looks like the Dems are falling in with his plans. Barf.
revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:21 am
@ehBeth,
Well, if they are good positions that are good for the country, I would hope the democrats in the House can hold their noses and vote for the positions. If they are democrat positions, I doubt republicans in the House and Senate would like them and they would end up looking like obstructionist. Maybe. I make a point not to listen to him so I don't know what positions they are.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:23 am
@revelette1,
I don't want them to do that and let it turn into a 2nd win for #45.

They seem to have no useful leadership so I'm not convinced they know how to prevent #45 from turning this into a win.
revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:30 am
@ehBeth,
Well, it would be a superficial win for 45 and it might get him elected. Unless another Obama like candidate comes along, I don't see any democrat winning against Trump in his re-election regardless of how the democrats perform in the House. If they start acting like the republicans in the House of the last few years, they can kiss any gains they made last night goodbye. We did well last night in the Governors races where the redistricting is done, so perhaps there will be some fundamental changes there also.

On the other hand, I don't see Trump sticking to any democrat positions he is claiming today even if it would be good for him. I don't think he has it in him to be that disciplined. That was more a Bill Clinton thing.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:34 am
@ehBeth,
and he's still talking

been over 40 minutes now

he's very happy with all the things the Dems want to do that were his idea

yup yup yup
revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:37 am
@ehBeth,
You have more guts than me, I am letting my TV remain on energy saving mode during his speech.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:40 am
@revelette1,
radio in the background - I'm actually listening to something else but they keep popping in with little bits of his yakety yak. not so much a speech as a stream of consciousness event focusing on his pleasure at having Dems to work with on his ideas.
engineer
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 11:52 am
@tsarstepan,
tsarstepan wrote:

First things first:
I don't want Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House. She is terrible at her job and was one of the major factors for the Democrats losing the House of Representatives to the Republicans in the first place.

Wow, why would you say that? She lead the resistance to Bush when she became speaker, drove through the first major healthcare legislation in forever and is tremendously respected by her peers in the House. There is one group that really thinks she is terrible - Congressional Republicans. If you can be known by your enemies, she must be pretty good. Why do you say she is terrible at her job?
maporsche
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 12:04 pm
@ehBeth,
As much as I hate Trump if it fixes the DACA kids futures. Improves the health care law or makes it cheaper while protecting the core of the law. Helps balance the bidget while still protecting social safety nets......well good, I think?

Of course Trump will take credit, but if it improves the lives of Americans then ok.
maporsche
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 12:08 pm
And if we start getting Republicans campaigning on Democratic Party peinciples and goals then wonderful. Our side wins.

Just like pre-existing conditions. That was the biggest component of Obamacare. Now it was a Republican promise.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 12:11 pm
@engineer,
Obamacare is now considered as bad as any republican plans by progressives. They wanted single payer universal healthcare and, as you can see, do not like any compromises.
revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 03:08 pm
Even if the democrats in the House work with Trump on lowering the cost of health care or another democrat idea, Trump will throw in some awful caveat which will make it impossible to vote or even agree to come to a vote and then blame it on democrats; like he did in the immigration bill.
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RABEL222
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 03:08 pm
@maporsche,
I think most people who don't like aca want it improved, not done away with. A republican lie fostered by Medicare hating republicans trying to wreck public insurance.
 

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