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Does Bush's religious faith inappropriately dictatate policy

 
 
ebrown p
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 04:11 pm
Well trespassers,

Looks like our job is done here. We have said all we can to counter the partisan mudslinging. But, it seems our message is being roundly ignored. Perhaps resaon and tolerance will prevail in other time.

There I go again trying to preach tolerance and reason to an angry mob... I should know better by now!

I hope to see you elsewhere.
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 04:40 pm
Gala wrote:
It does matter that he is making choices based on his faith, because those choices at best, are contradictory. All mighty-God tells him that abortion is wrong, but somehow God is not present when he decides to drill for oil in Alaska.

Are you judging his decisions as they pertain to his faith, or as they pertain to his office? The former may be fair game, but has nothing to do with his office. The latter is likewise fair game, but has nothing to do with his faith.

If you think he is wrong on drilling in Alaska, make that point. It has nothing to do with his religion. If you think he is wrong on abortion, make that point, but again, leave his faith alone.

Intelligent, rational people debate issues and actions; bigots focus on issues like ethnicity, gender, religious beliefs, etc. Which are you?
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 04:43 pm
ebrown_p - Thanks for being one more voice of reason. I know we do not see eye-to-eye on some issues, but I respect the way you seem to view the world. I imagine we'd fair no better in a discussion with rabid racists, but would likewise stand our ground there too.
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au1929
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 05:22 pm
Tres ole buddy.
Is that what it takes to become a voice of reason. Agreeing with you. Is it possible you meant to say an unreasonable voice. Forgive me I could not resist the opening.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 05:59 pm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 06:00 pm
PDid, That would be funny if it wasn't so true. c.i.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 06:25 pm
If, as has been claimed, AIDS is God's way of punishing homosexuals, then is Pat Robertson getting prostate cancer God's way of telling us that he's an a--hole?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 06:40 pm
Unfortunately, HIV/AIDS are infecting heterosexuals by the thousands in this world. c.i.
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snood
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 06:41 pm
diddie, I'm SHOCKED and ABASHED!


Embarrassed
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 06:43 pm
Pdiddie, didn't Bush have prostrate cancer?
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 08:32 pm
ProsTATE, Bill.

ProsTRATE is when you are lying down.

No cancer for Dubya as far as I know.

Terminal ignorance...yes. Chronic and metastized foolishness....most certainly.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 4 Mar, 2003 08:37 pm
Then I was right Smile

(Hey, what's an r between friends? It turns Bush into Brush!)
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 04:35 pm
Since I came late to the thread this perhaps has already been addressed. I didn't read back all the way. At any rate here's my rant.

Liberals have contempt for people who try and mandate the teaching of creationism. We have contempt for people that have built an entire political movement by demonizing gays and lesbians. We have contempt for people who wish to install a theocracy. We have contempt for people who think a good use of government money is funding abstinence programs set up by the Moonies. We have contempt for people don't respect OUR religion. We have contempt for supposedly devout people like George Bush who, upon traveling to the Middle East, "joked" that he was going to inform Israelis that they were all going to hell. We have contempt for high-ranking public officials like James Watt whose belief in impending Armageddon drove his environmental policy. We have contempt for the fact that the media have turned Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell into the public faces of religion in this country. We have contempt for people who wish to ban contraception and prevent women from getting adequate medical care.

Christians are great. Devout Christians are great. Devout fundamentalist Christians are great. Devout evangelical Christians who are light on the evangelical are fine. Theocrats are not. People shoving their religious beliefs down my throat, giving me no respect for mine, and wishing to put religion into the public schools are not fine. People who would rather violate federal anti-discrimination regulations than receive federal funding are not fine. People whose sick beliefs make them want to inflict torture on others by attempting to "cure" young gay and lesbian kids in "conversion camps" are not fine.

*whew* Thanks, I feel better now.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 04:40 pm
You look better, but your still mumbling, get a grip Smile
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 04:43 pm
au1929 wrote:
Tres ole buddy.
Is that what it takes to become a voice of reason. Agreeing with you. Is it possible you meant to say an unreasonable voice. Forgive me I could not resist the opening.

au my good friend,
When the alternative is religious bigotry, yes, agreeing with me makes yours one more reasonable voice in this context.
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 06:41 pm
gimme a break.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 06:49 pm
omniscience is a heavy burden but tress can handle it.
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 07:06 pm
dyslexia - If you think one needs to be omniscient to recognize bigotry then I wonder what your opinion on the subject can really be worth.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 07:29 pm
as you have already pointed out my opinion is worthless.
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Phoenix32890
 
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Reply Wed 5 Mar, 2003 08:12 pm
Ok- The mud has been slung. Hope that you all feel better. Now please return to the subject at hand. Thank you!
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