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Does Bush's religious faith inappropriately dictatate policy

 
 
Tartarin
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 09:50 pm
I'd second that, Diane.
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Diane
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 09:55 pm
Amen, sister.
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 09:59 pm
hallelujah!
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kiose
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 10:07 pm
Why doen't the US decree a Royal Family? That would help sort out all your problems. The King would decide and even would be like cool with that. Food for thought isn't it!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 10:12 pm
i generally prefer my food for thought to be digestable.
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Diane
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 10:13 pm
Welcome, kiose.

Actually, I think the Bush family has had that in mind all along.
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kiose
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 10:16 pm
Hahahahahah Good One Dyslex......funny dude!!!!!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 10:21 pm
Royal families have traditionally had a problem with inbreeding.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 10:28 pm
Canada, I have thought of Canada, but I'm sticking here in the US. I don't feel so out of whack in my small town in northern California as some might in other places in the country. I agree that the next election is beyond critical. And I see a lot of pain on the way to it.
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Diane
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 10:38 pm
I'm keeping my options open.
Now to bed and hopefully not to dream.
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blatham
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 10:48 pm
from a canadian perspective...I think the democrats had better start work NOW getting grassroots organizations going, or joining in what already exists. I think you guys are WAY behind the republicans in this, and it looks critical.
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 11:15 pm
Diane wrote:
Perhaps I was too aggressive in using the word "abomination."
The abomination, IMHO, is the close association of government and religion that is encouraged in this administration. The pamphlets are another example of that association, especially with the insert asking for prayers for Bush.
If they provide some solace to the soldiers, I'm grateful. If they didn't contain that removable insert, they wouldn't be offensive and if they were eccuminical, there wouldn't be an issue worthy of a newspaper article.

So you think it is wrong for a private, religious organization to print up pamphlets that ask people to pray for specific things and specific people. Are you normally not a big fan of religious freedom or free speech, or is this specific case different somehow?

And how exactly is the administration culpable for what some ministry chooses to print?
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 11:22 pm
I'm haven't commented on freedom of speech, I just said it was scary to me because I value my civil rights and can see that I, along with everyone else in this country am in danger of losing them. For those who know only the tyranny of a coersive system, whether religious or not, they will not miss their rights. They'll feel right at home and while frightened and paranoid, as usual, still feel somehow oddly safe.
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trespassers will
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 11:37 pm
Lola wrote:
I'm haven't commented on freedom of speech, I just said it was scary to me because I value my civil rights and can see that I, along with everyone else in this country am in danger of losing them. For those who know only the tyranny of a coersive system, whether religious or not, they will not miss their rights. They'll feel right at home and while frightened and paranoid, as usual, still feel somehow oddly safe.

Ah... another member of the elite, "those who don't agree with me probably won't know enough to be as (upset/happy/enraged/scared/concerned) as I am" crowd. (I really need to keep a list so I know who to look up to around here.) :wink:

Pleased to meet you. Yes, everyone who disagrees with you is a moron who doesn't know any better. We're all out here handling snakes and praying our toothless selves silly for our prezzydent. Yep. Rolling Eyes
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Tue 1 Apr, 2003 11:47 pm
You don't seem to be afraid Tres. but if you are, I won't compete with you for which of us is more scared. I didn't say I was more scared than you, but afraid of what I see happening. Sorry if you don't get it, but you can keep me on your list if you wish, I've very look upable.
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2003 12:22 am
blatham, I couldn't agree with you more. The Dems also need to get a Limbaugh, Coutler, and their very own TV News Agency to boot. The playing field is changed and the Dems have not learn how to play on it yet. If they don't, well, they better!
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Ethel2
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2003 12:42 am
sigh................. I agree BillW and Blatham.
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blatham
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2003 01:19 am
Tres

Snide might feel gratifying to you, but it's not very valuable in discussion. The folks here are making claims, saying "I think.... for these reasons...". Your present strategy is to toss insults, to label the speakers as 'elitist' or some such. It is petty, and lacks forthrightness.

You ought to show the equal courage and make some claims yourself. Perhaps you feel the level of religious worship in the White House is just fine. Perhaps you'd even like to see more of it. Perhaps you don't believe church and state ought really to be separate at all. Perhaps you'd rather all presidents were Christian or believers. Whatever it is you do think, we don't know, because you aren't being brave enough to come out and say it.

Perhaps you are anxious some of us will take your claims or ideas to task. Of course, we will. But if you feel your ideas have merit and are actually defensible, then what damage might be done?
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2003 07:18 am
BillW

Quote:
The Supreme Court, Congress and the Executive Branch are working on repealing the Womens right to vote, reinstituting the Jim Crow laws and registering all families who make less than $250,000 a year. Also, women in the workplace is a no-no. If they want to work, must be through the church-


Isn't that a bit of an exaggeration?
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BillW
 
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Reply Wed 2 Apr, 2003 01:16 pm
I hope so, but I would have said vrtually everything that Georgie Porgie, SCOTUS and Congress have done in the past two years would have been an exageration in 1999 also!
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