Does Bush's religious faith inappropriately dictatate policy

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Bush Snr War Criminal

a). Systematic aerial and missile bombardment of Iraq was ordered to begin at 6:30 p.m. <E.S.T>. January 16, 1991, in order to be reported on prime time TV. The bombing continued for 42 days. It met no resistance from Iraqi aircraft and no effective anti-aircraft or anti-missile ground fire. Iraq was basically defenceless.

b). Most of the targets were civilian facilities. The United States intentionally bombed and destroyed centres for civilian life, commercial and business districts, schools, hospitals, mosques, churches, shelters, residential areas, historical sites, private vehicles and civilian government offices. In aerial attacks, including strafing, over cities, towns, the countryside and highways, United States aircraft bombed and strafed indiscriminately. The purpose of these attacks was to destroy life and property, and generally to terrorise the civilian population of Iraq. The net effect was the summary execution and corporal punishment indiscriminately of men, women and children, young and old, rich and poor, of all nationalities and religions.

c). As a direct result of this bombing campaign against civilian life, at least 25,000 men, women and children were killed. The Red Crescent Society of Jordan estimated 113,000 civilian dead, 60% of them children, the week before the end of the war. According to the Nuremberg Charter, this "wanton destruction of cities, towns, or villages" is a Nuremberg War Crime.

looks like good thinking to me, Dys......keep it up. Thinking for yourself that is.

Ketamine, I submit that your allegations are supported neither by fact nor by military doctrine. You are passionate, but apparently ill-informed. Coldly put, it simply is not cost-effective to target civilians. If nothing else, our guys are very efficient. If their goal WAS to cause civilian devastation, any town or city out there could be turned into a smoking pile of survivorless rubble with no difficulty at all. Civilian casualties are a fact of war. The US goes to extraordinary length to minimize civilian damage. Of course, I don't epect you will accept that. Emotion easily overrules reason. Favored perceptions are immune to dispassionate consideration.

Read my apocalypse....Armegeddon angry:

Ever since Jesus said that only God knows the hour or day of the Second Coming, preachers and self-appointed doomsayers have been trying to predict when it will happen -- and watching the sun rise on another generation. Even those who chastise date-setters nearly always say, "God's final judgment is coming soon, probably in our lifetime, so get ready."

In recent weeks, the prophetic interpreters have been citing a new reason they believe the end is coming: the impending U.S. war with Iraq.

Anxious discussions have arisen on prophecy Web sites, in Bible study groups and churches, and at such gatherings as last month's 20th International Prophecy Conference in Tampa, Fla. Its title: "Shaking of Nations: Living in Perilous Times."

Many see evidence of Iraq's significance in end-time scenarios in key passages of the apocalyptic book of Revelation. Chapter 16, which includes the only mention of Armageddon in the Bible, carries a direct reference to the Euphrates River, which runs through modern-day Iraq.

"The sixth angel poured out his bowl on the great river Euphrates, and its water was dried up to prepare the way for the kings from the East," writes John, possibly the apostle, of a container of God's anger emptied on the ancient land of Babylon, now Iraq. The kings will move their armies through the Euphrates valley en route to Har Megiddo (Armageddon) in northern Israel.

The Euphrates appears a second time with one of seven angels whose blaring trumpets warn that the Final Judgment is near. "Release the four angels who are bound at the great river Euphrates," a voice commands the sixth angel of God, whose compliance unleashes agents of death who "had been kept ready for this very hour and day and month and year and were released to kill a third of mankind."

Then comes the clincher. In Chapter 9, Verse 11 -- yes, that's 9:11 -- John says the leader of an army of locusts released to fight humankind is named Abaddon in Hebrew, Apollyon in Greek. Both words mean Destroyer, one of several meanings for the name "Saddam."

It gets nuttier:

Houston Chronicle

We've really got to stop spending money looking for intelligent life elsewhere in the Universe.

We ought to spend some trying to find some here on Earth.

Timber -- I really think you're wrong on this one. See McCafferty...

Dear Timberlogger,

I am neither passionate about US War Crimes nor ill informed. I was purely posting an article from an American author which I found on the internet.

All for all your other assumptions - well you are obviously an ignorant red necked creep like so many of your fellow country men. Crawl back into your Wisconsin hole.

Why the hell are you at war anyway. Your regime are fascists. You are killing innocent people. You wonder why acts such as September 11 come to bear on your innocent people!

I don't think Timber is a red-necked creep, not by a long shot, Ketamine. I think he's a nice guy caught in a military rut. But in every other way I agree with your assessment. Listening obsessively to news about the war, one has to notice the language, of commentary, in which every effort is made to ignore the character of our government, in which "innocent people" are not being hurt (and if one or two get a scratch, well, that's war), and in which September 11 is a completely externally caused "tragedy."

Dear Ketamine ...

I'm proud to be a redneck, and proud to be ex-military, and proud to be a registered, participating voter (as a matter of fact, tomorrow is election day here. Not only am I going to vote, I am standing for re-election to a local office. I expect to win, as I am unopposed ), and proud of having gotten under your skin. Feel free to criticize me. It makes me proud. Just mind your manners, and remain within The Terms of Service and The Guidelines. I'm proud of this website, its members, and its standards, too.

Tartarin, thanks. I guess I am in a "Military Rut" ... most of my working life was devoted either to the military or to activity with civilian firms directly dealing with the military. I guess it shows, huh?

Well, and there's just not enough sun up there in cheese country to make necks red. Now in Texas....

In Texas, red is the norm, true, Tartarin. And George Bush's is redder than most.

Timber,

Hang in. We're behind you, even if we don't agree.

No offense Lola, but if you just speak for yourself, and avoid pronouncements predicated by the pronoun "we" - you'll avoid confusing some of us.

And confusion is a devilish thing, I know. Sorry, that was the Lola "we". I think it..................you get the blame. It's a scary world out here.

Lola -- He bought the ranch in Crawford as part of his campaign -- literally, even added a couple of "environmental" flourishes (I know one of his buddies who told me about it and, thinking it a clever drainage system, I installed one too!) He wanted to be seen as a cowboy (never seen him on a horse, have you!). The redness on his neck is called Connecticut Red -- it comes from nervous neck-rubbing during exam time.

Plans Under Way for Christianizing the Enemy

Two leading evangelical Christian missionary organizations said that they have teams of workers poised to enter Iraq to address the physical and spiritual needs of a large Muslim population...

"The hope is that as the war front moves and the situation in the outlying areas improves, we'll be able to send mobile teams in. Our understanding of relief ministries is that anytime you give a cup of cold water in the name of Jesus you've shared God's love in a real physical way. That also raises the question as to why you did that. When people ask you, you explain that it's because of the love of God that has been poured out into my life and I have a deep desire that you know that same love as well."

Christianizing the Enemy

It's like having Ann Coulter as Secretary of Defense.

Remember her famous quote - "Let's bomb them, kill all their leaders and turn them into a nation of Christianity" - something like that.

Bush plans to free them from their "gutter religion" and replace it with a "good" religion.

Tartarin,

My understanding of the definition of red neck is a person who lives in Texas and is narrow minded, bigoted, ignorant on purpose, probably stupid and mean. I know enough about GW personally to be able to confirm it. He may have lived in Connecticut and sat in classes at Yale, but he lived in Lubbock and Dallas long enough plus his early years in Houston. And it's really his red neck attitude that is the problem, where ever he acquired it. It's a plausible theory that he is really an Eastern elitist and only posing as a Texan, but I've met the man, and I can assure you that he's not putting on. I think he hangs out in Crawford for a very good personal reason. It's isolated enough and the people around don't challenge him too much.

And PDiddle, I agree. I think this is a plan of Bush and his buddies. And I believe he actually believes this is a helpful and wise thing to do. Frightening.

PDiddie, the article made me cringe with all the awful implications it raises. I'm not religious, but the first thing that came to mind was, "Lord have mercy!"

PDiddie- Looks like my worst nightmare is not a figment of my imagination. Yeecch!

He can't possibly be that stupid.

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