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7,200-year-old traces of cheese found: cheese making a significant step in human culture

 
 
Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2018 06:10 am
https://i.imgur.com/cLrIsRi.jpg

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Residue on 7,200 year old pottery found in Croatia has pushed back the dawn of cheese making in the Mediterranean.

The find resets the timeline of agriculture in the region, with fermented dairy products being made a mere five centuries after milk was first stored. But its innovation was more than just a culinary milestone for dairy connoisseurs – it could have been a life saver.

Science Alert: 7,200-Year-Old Traces of Cheese Have Been Discovered in Cute Animal Pots

National Geographic: Hints of 7,200-Year-Old Cheese Create a Scientific Stink



https://i.imgur.com/FMCk2AU.jpghttps://i.imgur.com/xgZ3FhE.jpg
Full report @ Plus one: Fatty acid specific δ13C values reveal earliest Mediterranean cheese production 7,200 years ago
 
jespah
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2018 06:19 am
@Walter Hinteler,
Cheese saves the world!
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laughoutlood
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2018 07:10 am


From ages past you rise so gentle breezes

...
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2018 06:59 pm
@laughoutlood,
I once found a hoagie in a coal mine. The coal was Moscovian aged (about 310 My) .Imagine, a 310 million year old hoagie . I didnt even know they had salami 310 million years ago!!
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Sturgis
 
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Reply Thu 6 Sep, 2018 11:58 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
What type of cheese? What animal gave the milk for said cheese? (And who designed the cheese holder?)
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 12:33 am
@Sturgis,
It was "animal milk", from cows I think, and the type of cheese was ... well, they just found fatty acid residues, so it would be difficult to compare it with nowadays known types. But one of the authors guessed, it was "like a farmer’s cheese or perhaps like a feta". (Source)

The ceramics are called "rhyta" (singular: rhyton), most probably designed/used just for cheese-making. (Same sources as previously)
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 06:39 am
We were taught in university, in the late 1960s, that cheese probably derived in the middle east when milk was stored in skin bags made from animal stomachs. As is all too often the case, this was not clearly advertised as the pure speculation that it in fact was. It was also probably an artifact of the mind set that ascribed all cultural development to the middle east because of an underlying Judeo-Christian prejudice. I was very amused when claims were advanced in the 1980s that evidence had been found that copper was smelted and bronze made in the Balkans before it was done in the middle east. This is not to say that the smelting of copper was first done in the Balkans and then "exported" to the middle east. That attitude--cultural diffusion--is another academic artifact that fatuously assumes that things may only ever be discovered once and that thereafter, the use of an artifact or process can only be passed on from the originator.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 07:36 am
We have seen thee, Queen of Cheese, lying quietly at your ease,
Gently fanned by evening breeze, thy fair form no flies dare seize.
All gaily dressed, soon you’ll go, to the provincial show,
To be admired by many a beau in the city of Toronto.




~~~~~~~


Of the youth -- beware of these --
For some of them might rudely squeeze
And bite your cheek; then songs or glees
We could not sing o' Queen of Cheese.


~*~*~*~*~

https://nationalpost.com/life/food/the-new-worlds-oldest-cheese-is-more-than-7000-years-old

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“Consumption of milk and dairy products would have had many advantages for early farming populations,” the researchers write in PLOS One. Although many early farmers were lactose intolerant, “young children are lactase persistent until after weaning and could consume milk as a relatively pathogen-free and nutrient rich food source, enhancing their chances of survival into adulthood.”

Fermenting milk to make dairy products such as yogurt and cheese reduces its lactose content. The evidence of dairy, the researchers explain, supports the belief that a significant percentage of the population was able to eat dairy products and benefit from cheese’s portability and nutrients. The resulting drop in infant mortality, they write, “helped stimulate demographic shifts that propelled farming communities to expand to northern latitudes.”
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 07:45 am
@ehBeth,
I nearly responded to ehBeth with something about Café Keese ...

We here knew already about how to produce cheese at Tacitus' times: Cibi simplices, agrestia poma, recens fera aut lac concretum (The food is simple, wild fruits, fresh game or curdled milk) [Tacitus, Germania, chapter 23]

farmerman
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 01:40 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
all that, with an "est" at the end, no?

Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 02:04 pm
@farmerman,
I copied it without "est". - Its more than 50 years since I had to read Tacitus at school, so you might be correct
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Real Music
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 02:06 pm
This reminds me of that age old question:
Who cut the cheese? Very Happy
Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 02:13 pm
@Real Music,
There was a very popular song in the 1920's in Germany ...

https://i.imgur.com/stG79AB.jpg
camlok
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 09:38 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
The ceramics are called "rhyta" (singular: rhyton)


Th rule for the English language is add and 's' or 'es'.

singular rhyton - plural rhytons
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laughoutlood
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 09:46 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Sweet cheeses.

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maxdancona
 
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Reply Fri 7 Sep, 2018 09:57 pm
No Whey!
That's not Gouda.

farmerman
 
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Reply Sat 8 Sep, 2018 05:51 am
@maxdancona,
I hear it was Cheezum Whizzy
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