courtroom killing

You volunteered to defend the idiocy, so you have no room for complaint that I'm being insulting.

This has nothing to do with a policy. They made a dumb judgement when they decided who should be escorting the scumbag into court.

There is no policy that says a small-framed woman has to escort the guy into court, as, if you read Bill's ridiculous posts, you might be led to believe.

This is just Bill trying to start an argument over nothing. He's very good at it though, I have to admit.

kickycan wrote:

This has nothing to do with a policy. They made a dumb judgement when they decided who should be escorting the scumbag into court.

That was regular duty, Kicky.

kickycan wrote:

There is no policy that says a small-framed woman has to escort the guy into court, as, if you read Bill's ridiculous posts, you might be led to believe.

Or a cursory review of the facts, Kicky.

kickycan wrote:

This is just Bill trying to start an argument over nothing. He's very good at it though, I have to admit.

3 people are dead Kicky. That isn't nothing. This policy (that you're denying without having spent a minute to find out the truth about) may well have been a contributing factor. Your contribution is as accurate as it is productive, even while you seek to insult me for being insulting.

A former computer technician, whose cold stare had spooked authorities earlier this week, stole a deputy's gun Friday while being led into court for his rape trial, then killed the judge and two other people before carjacking a reporter's vehicle to escape. His getaway set off a massive manhunt and created widespread chaos across Atlanta, police said.

Late Friday, police reported that the car, a green Honda, had been found in a downtown Atlanta parking lot, not far from where it was stolen. . . .

Nichols had generated fears among authorities the day before he allegedly killed three people in a courthouse rampage.

Prosecutors and the judge requested extra security for deputies after investigators found shanks in each of Nichols' shoes Thursday, prosecutor Gayle Abramson said. Nichols had apparently sharpened part of a doorknob into a dangerous weapon.

Nichols — on trial for rape — also made jurors nervous. Juror James Bailey said he became unnerved by the defendant's cold, hard stares at the jury box.

"Every time he looked up, he was staring at you," said Bailey.

Nichols got the gun by overpowering the female deputy while he was being led down a corridor in the Fulton County Courthouse, Assistant Police Chief Alan Dreher said. After shooting the deputy in the face, the suspect then went to the courtroom, held about a dozen people at bay for a short time and shot and killed the judge and a court reporter, he said.

Another deputy was later killed outside the Atlanta courthouse when he confronted the suspect, Dreher said. The deputy shot while leading Nichols to court survived, but details about her condition were not immediately known.

Authorities said Nichols then pistol-whipped Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter Don O'Briant, stole his green 1997 Honda Accord and sped away. . . .

The shootings occurred after the judge and prosecutors had requested extra security for deputies after investigators found a shank in each of Nichols' shoes Thursday, prosecutor Gayle Abramson said. She said Nichols apparently fashioned the shanks from a doorknob.

Fulton County District Attorney Paul Howard said he did not know what exactly was done in the way of stepped-up security, but said the deputies were receptive to their request. Dreher said that there were no other officers other than the female deputy assisting with taking Nichols to court. The law requires that defendants on trial not be handcuffed as they enter the courtroom, to make sure the sight of cuffs doesn't unfairly influence the jury.

The shootings occurred shortly after 9 a.m. Friday — the fourth day of Nichols' trial. Nichols, 33, was on trial for a second time in as many weeks on charges of rape, sodomy, burglary, false imprisonment, and gun and drug possession.

"I think he probably realized ... he might be convicted this time, he might not have a chance to walk out," Howard said. "We believe he came here with the intent to make sure that didn't happen."

He was accused of bursting into an ex-girlfriend's home, binding her with duct tape and sexually assaulting her over three days. Howard said Nichols brought a loaded machine gun into the home and a cooler with food in case he was hungry.

"He said he would assault her for three days until her birthday," Howard said. Nichols, who had been jailed for the last six months, had faced a possible life prison sentence if convicted for rape.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

kickycan wrote:

This has nothing to do with a policy. They made a dumb judgement when they decided who should be escorting the scumbag into court.

That was regular duty, Kicky.

I take that statement back. I don't think it was a lack of judgement about who should be escorting him. I think that the deputy probably made the error by letting her attention wander.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

kickycan wrote:

There is no policy that says a small-framed woman has to escort the guy into court, as, if you read Bill's ridiculous posts, you might be led to believe.

Or a cursory review of the facts, Kicky.

I still say what you said earlier was ridiculous, and the way you said it was probably designed to bait everyone into your argument, but you have basically conceded this point in your post to Nimh (and others), so I will just let this go.

OCCOM BILL wrote:

kickycan wrote:

This is just Bill trying to start an argument over nothing. He's very good at it though, I have to admit.

3 people are dead Kicky. That isn't nothing. This policy (that you're denying without having spent a minute to find out the truth about) may well have been a contributing factor. Your contribution is as accurate as it is productive, even while you seek to insult me for being insulting.

First of all, I never said you were being insulting. But since you brought it up, you reap what you sew, buddy. Maybe if you tried taking a break from the condescending smartass posts yourself, you'd see a change in the way others respond.

And by the way, I resent your statement that "3 people are dead, Kicky. That's not nothing." What self-righteous crap. I obviously wasn't saying that, and we've interacted on this forum enough times that I would think you'd know I would never belittle the deaths of three people like that. In my book, that makes your statement nothing more than a low blow, and an apology and retraction of that statement is probably in order.

Ceili, I agree with you. The sensible solution is to have two people escorting the guy.

should be accompanied by at least 2 very strong men

And another thing. After the guy gets caught the day before with crudely-fashioned knives hidden in his shoes, I'd say some f*cking handcuffs might be a good idea.