Evolution? How?

Eorl wrote:

Ooo! Ooo! I know this one!

Because they are all evil and wear funny clothes and they deserve to be bombed !

What?.....I missed the point....?.....damn....

The point is that if there was a meteor that hit at the time of Noah there was certainly a mass extinction disaster and this does add credence to the Noah story... Would this disaster have caused floods? Not necessarily a global flood but certainly some localized floods and the extinction of life of many surrounding cities. Did all life nearly die? I am not sure I think the jury is not in on this one yet...

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I think Im going to go eat some sushi

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RexRed wrote:

The point is that if there was a meteor that hit at the time of Noah there was certainly a mass extinction disaster and this does add credence to the Noah story... Would this disaster have caused floods? Not necessarily a global flood but certainly some localized floods and the extinction of life of many surrounding cities. Did all life nearly die? I am not sure I think the jury is not in on this one yet...

The point is...

I found a rock the other day. It looked like a normal rock, but oh how I wished it was a meteorite. So I imagined all kinds of ways in which it might be a meteorite instead of just a rock. Even though there's nothing about the rock which would indicate that it is a meteorite, I'm sure that if I try hard enough I can come up with some convoluted scenario in which it might be a meteorite. And no matter how many people tell me it's just a rock, I'm not going to listen to them. I'm going to continue to stretch the boundaries of reality in a desperate attempt to convince myself that it's a meteorite. I love my little meteorite rock. Wink

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rosborne, After you believe it's a meteorite rock for a few years, you'll find that your rock actually is a meteorite. That's how belief systems work; in religion and politics.

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Re: Evolution? How?
In the first post,

vol_fan06 wrote:

What makes Evolution so believable. Just because a bunch of scientists tell you it is. It is a theory, an idea, a guess. Why?
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I seem to find a lot more truth from the Bible and not what a bunch of scientists tell me. come on seriously how believable is all the "scientific" stuff they say is right. a monkey turning in to a man? A big bang and the world was formed? How did the stuff that collided get formed?

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AHA! Thank you for asking this! Seriously, the question just made me realize ...

It has nothing to do with being believable. Scientists never ask anyone
to believe an idea, theory, or model.

It's only to do with being useful and predictable. If we can use
even a "false" theory or "false" fact, then hey it is productive.
It produces consistent, applicable results. That's all.

When a scientific theory can be used to predict things that we
otherwise would not have discovered, then it is useful. The
theory gains credibility and is a little more "proven".

A big thing going for evolution is that the "theory" has already been
so versatile and powerful! We can apply evolution to
designing products, computer programs, law, society, relationships,
breeding, and so many things.

Almost everything we deal with in daily life changes and grows,
and the model of evolution helps tremendously to control and direct
the growth process.

Even the design of your toaster was an evolution -- of several ongoing
cycles of design-test-respond-redesign. If anything, the theory doesn't
reflect how the universe actually grows, but reflects how people may
think about it. In a structured way.

If you are able to see how genetics MIGHT work in an "evolutionary"
way, then you might be able to harness that to advantage.

The theory of evolution, like the Bible, has proven itself to be very
useful in controlling and gaining power and imposing our own will onto
the world around us. It's not so much a fact, as a tool.

It doesn't matter if anyone believes the theory.
'Course, that's just one ranting theory. D'ya think it might work?

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Hmm... In fact, it's probably better if people DON'T believe evolution,
and keep poking and questioning and improving the theory to make
it even more consistent, applicable, and pertinent.

Does Creationism thrive and grow the more it is questioned,
criticized, and attacked? A good scientific theory certainly does!

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Were we not our best as a species when we were being chased by dinosaurs and needed to differentiate between our own human kind then sitting at computers getting fat and declining as evolution falls into the gutter of "progress"?

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RexRed wrote:

Were we not our best as a species when we were being chased by dinosaurs and needed to differentiate between our own human kind then sitting at computers getting fat and declining as evolution falls into the gutter of "progress"?

Huh?

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Brandon9000 wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Were we not our best as a species when we were being chased by dinosaurs and needed to differentiate between our own human kind then sitting at computers getting fat and declining as evolution falls into the gutter of "progress"?

Huh?

Were we better off a million years ago?

I just saw a program that said humans mated with neanderthal... it this still believed? They said that the big noses in Europe are exactly like the neanderthal nose...

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Excellent point CodeBorg, nicely made.

I think people in the habit of believing will still find it hard to grasp, though.

Many seem to think that the whole purpose of "evolution" is to offend their god, and it must be mocked as the work of satan.

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RexRed wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Were we not our best as a species when we were being chased by dinosaurs and needed to differentiate between our own human kind then sitting at computers getting fat and declining as evolution falls into the gutter of "progress"?

Huh?

Were we better off a million years ago?

I don't think humans even existed then.

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The story of Adam and Eve taught us to love God and not the devil and the story of Noah taught to not "love/worship" creation (animals elements humans) but to love the creator of them...

It is not meant to teach science but to teach spiritual truth about how to perceive "science" as a product of God the Creator...

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Hands up: who thinks RexRed is actually writing a book called "Non-sequitur as Modern Art" ?

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Eorl wrote:

Hands up: who thinks RexRed is actually writing a book called "Non-sequitur as Modern Art" ?

This post has been a book.

A book of being.

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The term "ship of fools" comes to mind.

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RexRed wrote:

Eorl wrote:
Hands up: who thinks RexRed is actually writing a book called "Non-sequitur as Modern Art" ?

This post has been a book.

A book of being.

Nobody is very much interested in answers of this sort.

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Brandon9000 wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Eorl wrote:
Hands up: who thinks RexRed is actually writing a book called "Non-sequitur as Modern Art" ?

This post has been a book.

A book of being.

Nobody is very much interested in answers of this sort.

So the answers are riddles in caves of darkness?

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RexRed wrote:

Brandon9000 wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Eorl wrote:
Hands up: who thinks RexRed is actually writing a book called "Non-sequitur as Modern Art" ?

This post has been a book.

A book of being.

Nobody is very much interested in answers of this sort.

So the answers are riddles in caves of darkness?

The answers are self-indulgent, uninformative, and misguided. No wonder you don't believe in science. You're barely capable of linear thought.

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Brandon9000 wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Eorl wrote:
Hands up: who thinks RexRed is actually writing a book called "Non-sequitur as Modern Art" ?

This post has been a book.

A book of being.

Nobody is very much interested in answers of this sort.

So the answers are riddles in caves of darkness?

The answers are self-indulgent, uninformative, and misguided. No wonder you don't believe in science. You're barely capable of linear thought.

This is a lot of quotes. Think we can get a record or something? What the heck is a book of being?

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well if you don't think evolution exist explain how we get some people that look like apes for example blacks look like gorillas and some whites look like chimps??

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This is how I see things...

Evolution is certainly true... We did evolve from lesser more simpler forms of creatures. God did create this universe but over billions of years... Evolution is the beautiful story of How God did it...

God (who is infinite) created a space full of hydrogen in the big bang... Hydrogen built the suns... the suns over time through fusion made all of the elements and they formed to make earths... the earth is a life maker... I do not believe that a comet is necessary to have brought life to the earth... the earth is quite capable of making life itself... Not all rocks are capable of this but our earth is very special..

I think the moon (and sun) had something to do with how the earth made life... the core of the earth is capable of fusing life together into DNA and cells... If a comet brought life onto our earth it still had to have been made somewhere... What better a place to make life than an earth?

So to go back over this.. the big bang makes hydrogen... hydrogen makes suns... suns make earths... earths make life...

So where does God fit into all of this? Well God, who is infinity... created the big bang. God is everywhere in creation... the earth made humans so they could develop a language and have communion with God... God is all knowing, all powerful and everywhere present...

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