Evolution? How?

Well Stevo-

You ought to know that there is a scientific view that being "annoyed" or being "scared silly" are not good for health and because they also contribute,particularly in combination,to negative character traits they are maladaptive except under moral imperatives designed by traditional religious institutions.

Which means that under strict evolutionary principles they would be character traits bred out without the use of superior force.

My advice is that before you sweep your vision across the cultures of the world in one sweet easy breath you should meditate upon those two propensities you mention and seek to mitigate their effects.

How come you never give me any advice on meditating upon propensities? And after everything I have done for you, it's come this.

According to the biblical description of creation, the earth, the sun, the moon, and the stars were all created at the same time - clearly they were not all "created" at the same time.

According to the biblical description of creation, the earth itself existed from the beginning, whereas the stars, sun, and moon were created on the fourth day - the biblical description of creation has this backwards.

According to the biblical description of creation, plant life was created before the sun - the biblical description of creation has this backwards.

I'll have a read, and you RexRed???

It's supposed to be a conundrum Chum.That's where the charm resides.

Science lacks charm don't you think?

I've never thought about charm and science in the same gulp.

Maybe some the harder sciences from a certain perspective lack charm, but some of the softer sciences such as sexology seem to have charm.

Only during the introductory elementary classes I fear.The graduates are a sorry mess from what I can gather.

Gather yea rosebuds while you may....




Citizen Cane!


Did you get the multiple pun?

I might have done but there are a number of possibilities.Perhaps you might explain the ones you intended.

Source

Existence does not prove or disprove creation. Existence just means we are here, nothing more, nothing less.

Whaddaya mean science ain't got no charm? Science has quarks, and quarks have charm.

Charm-

Object having occult power.

Thing worn to avert evil.

Quality that excites love or admiration esp in ladies.

Quark-Hypothetical component of elementary particles.

Literary-"Three quarks for Muster Mark."Finnegan's Wake.

A lady puffs on a fag and timber leans forward with a conspiratorial leer and putting on his Vincent Price accent says- D-tubocurarine,an acetylcholine at nicotine synapses hehehohieeowwweeeie before the men in the white coats arrive to remove him to a safer place.

Ahem

Where did the Bible says God "created" the sun/stars on the fourth day?

See this is where evolutionists go seriously wrong.

They insult creationists then interpret the Bible the same erroneous way creationists do...

Go figure...

Chum, The Bible does not say God "created" the sun, moon, earth on the fourth day it says he "MADE" them.

People disregard what words are written when they do not believe they have integrity...

If the Bible had meant "created" it would have used that word... but God used the word "made"...

So much for skills of observation.

So both creationists and science minded people don't know how to read.

They don't know that to "make" something is to take matter from existing creation but to create something is to bring into existence something that has never been before...

In the beginning God created... this is the creation that the sun moon etc... were created... In Eden things were just "revamped"... the only thing in Eden that was "created" was the spirit in humans as God's image... other than that things were only made or formed.

The creation of these things were created millions of years before in the second heaven and earth (Eden). If it does mention creation in regard to the sun moon etc in the seven day period is because ultimately God did create them but just much earlier... After creation (of sun stars moon earth) God said let there be light (we did have and ice age of darkness...)

The sun moon stars earth were "created millions of years before Eden when the Angels were created... (this story is told in Ezekiel.)

When Eden opens Lucifer is a snake... did God create the angel of light that way? NO, he became that way over millions of years... (through treason)

How can the Bible ever be understood when both Christians and scientists don't know how to read and understand basic nuances of words like... made, formed and created?

God formed man from the dust of the ground (that takes time). How many forms did man take on before God was done? It does not say God "created" man from the dust of the ground it says God "formed" man... That my friend is evolution and where did anyone get the idea it was a poof there man is idea is beyond me...

Humans were created in the first heaven and earth that is why the body and soul were only formed (body) and made (soul) did not have to be "created" (spirit).

They were formed from existing materials that were created in verse one of the Bible in the first beginning, millions if not billions of years before Eden...

There were days before the first day but they were just measured in darkness...

Have you ever studied logic?

If creation equals bringing into existence something that has never been before... Thus if something exists then it must have been created (at some point in time) because it is IN existence...

Existence cannot be without creation first... simple logic...

See if you can break the logic (and not by simply denying it)...

Logic tends to break down at the quantum level and near a black hole. It is erroneous of us to think that logic applies to everything in existence.

The existence of God certainly isn't logical. He exists, but he was never created. However, to exist, he must have been created, right? Not according to Christians, anyway. They argue he's different because he's supernatural. That's like saying, he's different because he is.

Have you forgotten the Steady State Theory (the Universe is infinite and has always existed and has no end and no beginning)? Scientists had no trouble in believing in that for a while, until some other scientists proved that Big Bang Theory was a much better idea.

Of course, that assumes that God actually exists.

There is more to the universe than energy and matter...

There are "eternal virtues" which transcend any beginning... These virtues are rejected by science because how is science going to measure virtue? With a super collider? Virtues transcend any being, they transcend any consciousness and they ultimately transcend any creation...

God is not created because his kingdom resides in these eternal virtues...

So,

If God's "father" had these eternal virtues then he had God and so on back...

Virtue has no beginning or end... It is part of the eternal isness... It is virtue that created the world and the lack thereof that will destroy it...

How does science measure virtue, how does it measure ethics and morality? IT CANT...

Therefore it cannot measure God...

Thus science is weak and incapable of measuring that which is not in it's sphere.

So would one surmise because science cannot measure virtue that it does not exist? Does love exist?

My beating heart tells me, definitely yes...

So it is the heart/spirit that weighs and measures virtue...

...and thus belief and faith in virtue (God)...

Never said anything about measuring God. I merely stated that your argument for logic is really based on an argument for your particular personalised view of logic.

For example, in your view, it is natural for inanimate objects to stand still.

However, Einstein turned that idea on his head and stated that it is natural for inanimate objects to move.

Logic is all good and well, but you can only use it for certain things.

I knew that was coming, cute!