Evolution? How?

RexRed wrote:

aperson wrote:
You can stop talking to yourself now.

How about if you stop trying to tell me what to say or not to say?

Maybe people are just listening? If you don't want to listen don't read...

When I am done (or even while I am) making my point, if people want to pick apart what I have said and reason then so be it. (I want them to, I intend to challenge them to this or hold their peace.) If they don't respond then they are unsure and don't feel confidently enough on their own position to openly debate... (Or they think I am so totally off base which still requires a well reasoned response to the particular points that I have proposed.)

As I sense you are.... unsure of your position.

Maybe that comment was uncalled for. Sorry.

I'm not unsure of my position. 6 days ago, when I joined this site, I was unsure whether to follow God or not. Now, I'm 100% certain that I do not believe in God or any religion. This is mainly due to the fact that, generally, the non-believers in this forum are educated, intelligent can always back up their opinions and points with facts and logic. The others... I find that, perhaps, many believers are unsure of their purpose and meaning in life, and so they seek non-existent higher powers.

Religion is like cement. The longer you are in it, the more difficult it becomes to leave.

Please note that my comments are general, and are not directed towards you.

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Hey, Rex, here's an "OOPS" you might get a kick out of Laughing

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timberlandko wrote:

Hey, Rex, here's an "OOPS" you might get a kick out of

Are you saying it was unable to tabulate the year end tally? That is hilarious!

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Was there a line of code responsible?

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Maybe humans evolved from lithium ions? hehe

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http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2006-04/miot-mrb040606.php

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Oh, it executed the year end report with computer-accurate detail and precision, then, due to a long forgotten, overlooked, deeply buried bit of code evidently left over from the machine's original manufacturor's pre-shipping setup and test/quality control routine, treated what it laboriously had been set up to do, and which it reliably had been doing, as a test, clearing all of it - data and purpose-specific programming alike, and announced it was ready to be assigned a task.

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timberlandko wrote:

Oh, it executed the year end report with computer-accurate detail and precision, then, due to a long forgotten, overlooked, deeply buried bit of code left over from the machine's original manufacturor's pre-shipping setup and test routine, treated what it laboriously had been set up to do, and which it reliably had been doing, as a test, clearing all of it - data and purpose-specific programming alike, and announced it was ready to be assigned a task.

Probably a -1 when it should have been a +1. Smile

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aperson wrote:

RexRed wrote:
aperson wrote:
You can stop talking to yourself now.

How about if you stop trying to tell me what to say or not to say?

Maybe people are just listening? If you don't want to listen don't read...

When I am done (or even while I am) making my point, if people want to pick apart what I have said and reason then so be it. (I want them to, I intend to challenge them to this or hold their peace.) If they don't respond then they are unsure and don't feel confidently enough on their own position to openly debate... (Or they think I am so totally off base which still requires a well reasoned response to the particular points that I have proposed.)

As I sense you are.... unsure of your position.

Maybe that comment was uncalled for. Sorry.

I'm not unsure of my position. 6 days ago, when I joined this site, I was unsure whether to follow God or not. Now, I'm 100% certain that I do not believe in God or any religion. This is mainly due to the fact that, generally, the non-believers in this forum are educated, intelligent can always back up their opinions and points with facts and logic. The others... I find that, perhaps, many believers are unsure of their purpose and meaning in life, and so they seek non-existent higher powers.

Religion is like cement. The longer you are in it, the more difficult it becomes to leave.

Please note that my comments are general, and are not directed towards you.

Wow, six days and you know all that! This site rules! God hasn't even accomplished that much in six days... hehe

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Hi Rex.
I am left wondering how going to college with an electrical engineer imparted you with a knowledge of quantum mechanics.
For one, the two are wholly unrelated. Should I now claim a expert level knowledge of biology because I have a BA in computer science? There are both science..after all..
For two, unless you are rather young, knowledge of QM didn't exist on anywhere the scale it did today when you were in college.
Weak sauce man.

It is rather amusing, no?
Someone using their own expertise on a subject as evidence when said expertise derives from 'hanging out' with someone that was in a field somewhat similar, yet wholly different.

I think you should probably stick to esoteric mumbo jumbo, invoking science really isn't helping you.

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aperson wrote:

6 days ago, when I joined this site, I was unsure whether to follow God or not. Now, I'm 100% certain that I do not believe in God or any religion. This is mainly due to the fact that, generally, the non-believers in this forum are educated, intelligent can always back up their opinions and points with facts and logic.

Welcome to the ranks of the great unwashed, have a beverage on me!

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Did you get the tatoo yet, and the secret handshake?

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What kind of hazing do we gofer?

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Not sure about the hazing.

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Doktor S wrote:

Hi Rex.
I am left wondering how going to college with an electrical engineer imparted you with a knowledge of quantum mechanics.
For one, the two are wholly unrelated. Should I now claim a expert level knowledge of biology because I have a BA in computer science? There are both science..after all..
For two, unless you are rather young, knowledge of QM didn't exist on anywhere the scale it did today when you were in college.
Weak sauce man.

It is rather amusing, no?
Someone using their own expertise on a subject as evidence when said expertise derives from 'hanging out' with someone that was in a field somewhat similar, yet wholly different.

I think you should probably stick to esoteric mumbo jumbo, invoking science really isn't helping you.

Well Doug Cyr was very educated in knowledge such as thermodynamics, maxwells equations, Faraday's law and acoustical engineering. These disciplines are all related depending on what you want to do with them. Doug had tables in books that he constantly referenced. He had studied these things so he talked about them to anyone interested in learning. And quantum theories have gotten legs in the last few years yes, but super colliders were engineered the sixties and some are just being finished now. Sub atomic particles are nothing new to science. You don't have to know everything to have a firm understanding of the basics. Just because I have not learned to play "The flight of the Bumble Bee" does not mean I cannot play guitar...

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I am a guitarist, I am a Dorian mode man.

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But still, Rex..
As to my original challenge..I think we have established you are not an authority on QM;Thusly, using yourself as an appeal to authority just doesnt float.
Again, what reason or evidence have we to think there may/should be a 'realm' other than what is explained by the physical/material?
If 'QT/QM' is your answer, please point out what element of QM/QT contains such a postulation.
Until then, as I pointed out, your horse is pushing your cart with a hundred foot pole.

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Just about all technical disciplines are related, regardless what you want to do with them. I've actually done tech work on the grounds of FermiLab, and on the grounds of The Very Large Radio Telescope Array, but even with that and some college-level physics, I'm sure not qualified to call myself workingly familiar with the intracacies and methodologies of the research conducted at those locations; I was with the crews installing and networking their on-site communication gear. Oh, and I once lived a few miles from Lawrence-Livermore Laboratory, and had neighbors who actually worked there. Couple of 'em had Ph.Ds and were research associates. That didn't give me any qualifications in their fields either Laughing

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Chumly wrote:

I am a guitarist, I am a Dorian mode man.

I don't consider myself a guitarist but just a guitar player. A guitarist is more dedicated to just that instrument I don't rise to that level. Most guitarists wonder how I finger pick so fast though. Although guitar is my main instrument I play and own acoustic and electric guitars, banjo, mandolin, harmonica, ukulele, violin (which I am terrible at), lap steel and piano/organ/synth. I program MIDI like a doctor. I am mostly a singer (tenor from hell) and a writer though. I have the gift to sound like virtually any male and some female singers but I have (over time) found my own sound too. I accompany myself like Cat Stevens type style. Very percussive and rhythmic, aggressive. My leads (when I play them) are slow but with feeling, as in modes, I am all over the place with harmony, purposeful melody and haunting song signatures.

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I feel music like the part of my brain that hears music is hard wired to my feelings. It is hard for me to even carry on a conversation while music is playing. I cannot stop myself from tapping my fingers or toes.. This is probably where my ideas come from with living stones. There are things that only some are wired to see.

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