Evolution? How?

Be careful what you volunteer for, or did everyone else step backwards? We were writing about McCain, not you. Have another cup of coffee. And quit trying to play a victim.

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LOL

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That's what science doesn't want you to do -- jump to conclusions. It is what religion wants you do to -- make that leap to the conclusion that Genesis is a real story. It was probably from tales handed down by Cain's wife -- you know, the one that came out of nowhere or there was some incest relations going on the Bible was too embarassed to admit (as if it's not full of all sorts of sordid goings on). That's why the Vatican has such a huge collection of porno -- in preperation for an upcoming illustrated edition of the Bible.

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lightwizard wrote:

If evolution was a theory, it could not play an important role in medicine.

Incorrect.
Gravity, another popular theory, plays an important roll in the science of physics. I think you hold a common misunderstanding as to what 'theory' means in a scientific context.
This misconception is usually grasped onto and forwarded by the ID set, in order to marginalize evolution as being just a theory.
A theory as defined by science:
A set of statements or principles devised to explain a group of facts or phenomena, especially one that has been repeatedly tested or is widely accepted and can be used to make predictions about natural phenomena.
..Which is precisely what evolutionary theory is.

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That's not the definition that most clerics would want understood -- they want to bind it down to number two: abstract thought : SPECULATION.

You really didn't take that sentence seriously -- it was bait. But I can never guess who will fall for it.

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The November 2004 issue of National Geographic Magazine has an interesting article on Darwin. The excerpt below summarizes the ideas and evidence in "Origin of the Species":

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Excellent

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http://www.positiveatheism.org/hist/quotes/carlin.htm

Laughing

I've begun worshipping the Sun for a number of reasons. First of all, unlike some other gods I could mention, I can see the Sun. It's there for me every day. And the things it brings me are quite apparent all the time: heat, light, food, a lovely day. There's no mystery, no one asks for money, I don't have to dress up, and there's no boring pageantry. And interestingly enough, I have found that the prayers I offer to the sun and the prayers I formerly offered to God are all answered at about the same 50-percent rate.
-- George Carlin, Brain Droppings

Here's another question I've been pondering -- what is all this **** about angels? Have you heard this? Three out of four people belive in angels. Are you f**king stupid? Has everybody lost their mind? You know what I think it is? I think it's a massive, collective, psychotic chemical flashback for all the drugs smoked, swallowed, shot, and obsorbed rectally by all Americans from 1960 to 1990. Thirty years of street drugs will get you some f**king angels, my friend!
-- George Carlin (attributed: source unknown) Laughing

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Sun worship is as old as religion. Smile

Good as any, I suppose. At least we see benefit from it every day of our life.

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Akhenaton would be proud that George Carlin has returned his religion to Earth.

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We wouldn't have a problem with multiple gods. And if some a-hole said "Hey, the sun just told me we have to attack those people over there. We would know he was nuts.

Of coarse then there would be some yahoo that would decide to worship Niburu. Then the Niburu people would try to Attack "Those damn Sun infidels"

http://www.crystalinks.com/nibiru.html

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As there is no sun in Canada we worship beaver.

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Beavers? INFIDEL!!!!!!!!

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Where did religion come from? Our ancient ancestors were in fear of nature and they felt they had to worship whatever force was causing storms, the rising of the sun, the moon, the stars, fires, death -- you name it. They hoped it would appease an angry "God" from singling them out for destruction. They eventually went so far as to sacrifice animals and other humans to appease the figment of their fearful imagination. There's various reasons for people to have evolved and still need a "big Daddy" up in space to help them through life. Fear of randomness is the chief culprit.

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Lash wrote:

Good God. Look over there! We're selling A2K thongs!

LOL! I just saw the A2K thong!!! OMG too funny!

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Is this a banner ad selling the thongs? Craven and Jespah, and the staff, were having a lot of fun with us for Bacon Fool's Day, now something to stretch over our privates to advertise A2K. Now who's going to read that!
Embarrassed

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Beavers, huh. That one will be gnawing at me for a week.

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Lightwizard wrote:

Is this a banner ad selling the thongs? Craven and Jespah, and the staff, were having a lot of fun with us for Bacon Fool's Day, now something to stretch over our privates to advertise A2K. Now who's going to read that!

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Pauligirl wrote:

real life wrote:

Interesting article. If the dinosaur bone in this article were really 70 million years old, how come there's soft tissue inside?

Oh never mind. It's on a 'creationist' website, MSNBC.

Quote:
Scientists recover T. rex soft tissue

70-million-year-old fossil yields preserved blood vessels

Updated: 9:58 p.m. ET March 28, 2005

WASHINGTON - A 70-million-year-old Tyrannosaurus rex fossil dug out of a hunk of sandstone has yielded soft tissue, including blood vessels and perhaps even whole cells, U.S. researchers reported on Thursday.

Paleontologists forced to break the creature's massive thighbone to get it on a helicopter found not a solid piece of fossilized bone, but instead something looking a bit less like a rock.

When they got it into a lab and chemically removed the hard minerals, they found what looked like blood vessels, bone cells and perhaps even blood cells.............

see full story at http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/7285683

http://www.pandasthumb.org/archives/2005/04/dino-blood_redu.html
In media interviews Jack Horner, Schweitzer's coauthor and former professor, has been much more cautious. He appeared on a radio program, "On Point" broadcast by National Public Radio were Tom Ashcroft interviewed him along with molecular taphonomist Derek Briggs of Yale University, and science writer Carl Zimmer. Then he repeatedly said that they in fact have no idea what the recovered "tissues" are made of, or actually represent. Schweitzer did not appear on the program, but this could mean that there are the familiar disagreements that can occur between coauthors and particularly professors and former students. For example, when Ashcroft asked
"If it's soft tissue, what else would it be other than biological?
Horner replied, "Well that's a good question, but I don't think we go in with the assumption that it is {biological} until we can do our analyses. (approx. minute 30 of the interview)" He also said, "It would be nice to know what this stuff is made of if there are proteins present, is it biological?" And, "We're not looking for DNA, we are trying to determine what this stuff is and why it is flexible.

Since jumping to conclusions is not good exercise, I'll wait to see what they do find.

P

Apparently, soft tissue has been found in several more instances.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2005/03/050325100541.htm

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lightwizard wrote:

You really didn't take that sentence seriously -- it was bait. But I can never guess who will fall for it.

If by 'take it seriously' you mean 'assumed that you were serious' then yes, I did. You gave no indication you may be kidding.
I only commented because I dislike disinformation, and that particular bit is a common theistic rhetorical ploy to downplay the value of evolutionary theory.
The word 'theory' when applied to 'evolutionary theory' is NOT theory of the conjecture kind(which would, at best, be catergorized as 'hypothesis' in scientific terminology), regardless what most clerics would believe/evangelize.

Never know who might be reading this, and take your statement at face value.

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