cicerone imposter wrote:MA, We disagree on many levels. I was not created by any god. My parents had sex, and I was the product of that union.
I'm not angry at all; just asking some questions that requests some bonafide answers to A) the existence of your god, and B) my railing is not against christians, but most of the religious on these boards are christians. What better way to get answers?
I've had the habit of calling a spade a spade at the risk of offending people. Having worked in management most of my life, when employees refuse to accept any instruction or warnings, I wasn't in the habit of beating around the bush to make people feel good. Firmness and fairness was always uppermost in my mind, but some employees continued to neglect the warnings.
I don't need absolute proof of your god - just enough that goes beyond one book written over two thousand years ago.
Is that as far back as you go? To your parents? Who created them, and who created them, etc.?
If you are not angry, then why do you use words that you know are offensive (you have been told time and time again that they are) and yet you seem not to care. You don't have to believe what Christians or anybody else believes. But you have treated the Christians on this thread with rancor, disdain, and contempt. You accept nothing that we offer you as an answer. You ask questions, yes. But you have dismissed every answer we have given you and you have even tried to use the Bible to dismiss our answers to you.
You can call a spade a spade, that's fine. But it is not find to refer to the God of our understanding as comic book, etc. That is disrespectful and you know it is. I feel that is why you do it.
If you had talked to me like that if I were working for you, I'd have filed a suit against you. None of the Christians on these threads have called what you believe comic, stupid, or anything else. If you will notice, all we do is counter with what we believe. We have no need to try to belittle you. We ask only the same consideration.
I guess I don't understand something about you. You seem to refer to a lot of what Frank says, but you seem to not have noticed he has changed the way he says it. Frank has become a charming conversationalist with a sense of humor without making me feel as though he is looking down on me. So, if Frank can do that and you admire him so much, then please, take heed of what he is doing. His posts are so much more easily understood without all the other things.
You said nothing about how you feel about the emotional outbursts of kindness, etc. Do you find those characteristics undesirable? If you do, why? No one is asking you to make anyone feel good. All we are asking for is some common courtesy.
You have apologized for this behavior before and said you wouldn't do it again. Now, I don't know what to believe about you. Which is the real you? The one that can be courteous and discuss things civilly or the one that constantly berates?
If you do not need absolute proof of my God, as you call Him, then stop asking for it. We have given you what we have felt was proof and you dismissed it. Which is it? You want proof or you don't? Or is it you just want Him to prove it to your satisfaction? And that would be because you are what, superior to God, deserving of His proof to you?