Evolution? How?

This thread was more fun when we were explaining evolution. (Evolution? How?)

At least with science there's some rational footing to base a discussion on, even if there's disagreement. With a pure Bible discussion it's just a free-for-all of wild interpretations and emotional rants.

Civil? What the heck is that?

Yes, there was a bit of a free for all there for a bit. I apologize for my part in it. I can tell you this, it's statements like "With a pure Bible discussion it's just a free-for-all of wild interpreations and emotional rants" that tend to get my dander up.

Frank,

Don't you take everything into account when deciding whether someone is your friend or not?

Don't you like to have a pretty good idea of all of their character and not just one particular part of it?

If you were a defendant on trial for your life, do you want things left out and not the whole story told?

Sure, maybe you killed someone but don't you think it might be important why you killed someone? I mean, if he was trying to kill you, I'd say that's self-defense not murder. So, you need to have as much of the story as possible to render your verdict.

I would say, judging by most of the posts of those claiming the Bible is not true, they would be a prosecuting attorney trying to toss evidence out right and left.

Yes, God in the OT did the things it said He did. It also tells you why He did those things, but you and others have not accepted the fact that He is God and He makes the rules, not us.

Momma Angel wrote:

Yes, there was a bit of a free for all there for a bit. I apologize for my part in it. I can tell you this, it's statements like "With a pure Bible discussion it's just a free-for-all of wild interpreations and emotional rants" that tend to get my dander up.

Hi Momma,

I'm inclined to let people believe whatever they want to believe. And if someone says "this is my opinion", then I don't challenge it because we are all entitled to opinions.

However, an opinion is not necessarily the truth, at least measured scientifically. So what gets my dander up is when people break the rules of logic and science in a desperate attempt to argue that their "opinions" are supported by anything other than pure choice or faith.

As far as bible discussions go, I just don't find them as interesting because there are no rules which govern the interpretations. Anyone can interpret anything they want from the Bible and derive any conclusion they want. It's like playing a game with no rules; no fun. But that's just me. If you all are enjoying it, then please continue on.

rosborne979 wrote:

Momma Angel wrote:

Yes, there was a bit of a free for all there for a bit. I apologize for my part in it. I can tell you this, it's statements like "With a pure Bible discussion it's just a free-for-all of wild interpreations and emotional rants" that tend to get my dander up.

Hi Momma,

I'm inclined to let people believe whatever they want to believe. And if someone says "this is my opinion", then I don't challenge it because we are all entitled to opinions.

However, an opinion is not necessarily the truth, at least measured scientifically. So what gets my dander up is when people break the rules of logic and science in a desperate attempt to argue that their "opinions" are supported by anything other than pure choice or faith.

As far as bible discussions go, I just don't find them as interesting because there are no rules which govern the interpretations. Anyone can interpret anything they want from the Bible and derive any conclusion they want. It's like playing a game with no rules; no fun. But that's just me. If you all are enjoying it, then please continue on.

Ros,

I think you pointed out the reason the biblical discussions can turn into rants. We are discussing apples and oranges here. The apples have their faith and no scientific proof. The oranges have their science and (not much, if any IMO) faith. I am not saying the oranges have faith in nothing here, just not the faith the apples have. Don't you just hate sometimes have to watch every word so someone won't pick it up and hit you with it? LMBO!

So, the apples don't accept the science and the oranges don't accept the faith.

I think the problem comes in when someone believes they "have" to be right. And that's the whole thing, it's not up to any one of us to say who is right or who is wrong.

So, you see, even though you and I may disagree with the apples and oranges, it doesn't mean I wouldn't have you over for fruitcup!

"YOU HAVE TO READ IT ALL TO GET THE WHOLE STORY" is not the answer expected. PLEASE SHOW EXAMPLES QUOTED FROM THE BIBLE THAT DIRECTLY ANSWERS MY QUESTION.

The question I posed is: Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?"

If all you can do is expect me to "READ IT ALL," you're barking up the wrong tree. It's a very simple question. You are not capable of answering this simple question, because you would end up contradicting yourself, and you fear the wrath of your comic book god.

I'm not "ranting," but asking a very simple question which you refuse to answer. Most fictional books written on this planet can be summarized into several paragraphs, but you refuse to do this because you fear the wrath of your comic book/fictional god.

Your fear is understandable. Your projection about other people's "ranting" is only in your dreams. Your attempts to attacking me is a waste of time, because I will continue to ask the simple quesions - as will Frank. It seems you are missing Frank's message to you; you lack logic in your posts for intelligent debate.

You have not answered my question.

You cannot agree with Frank that your god is disgusting, and that no amount of reading the comic book/bible is going to change that!

That's the bottom line.

Don't have to read your mind; you're afraid of your comic book god.

If you understand anything about the word "rant," you are the one using caps on this board.

I'm pleading the fifth on everything other than what I personally write!

Pauligirl wrote:

If I had written the bible, the god would be up to my standards. . .
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The height of arrogance, my dear.

You, whose entire perception of reality is limited by the constructs of space and time would presume to judge God, who created them.

And the pot complains to the potter.