brahmin
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 06:35 pm
Frank Apisa wrote:
brahmin wrote:
neologist wrote:
It appears that the level of personal umbrage has trumped brain function in a few of our members.



yayayaya


Now that's what I'm talkin' about!

Way to go, Brahmin! Twisted Evil

lots of devil's advocates here.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 06:38 pm
Lot'sa jesus advocates too! LOL
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 08:09 pm
Momma Angel wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me.

C.I.,

For someone who doesn't believe in the God of the Bible, you sure do like to just throw scripture out there without stating a thing about it, don't you?

So, you put posted it for what reason? Because you believe it? Because you don't believe it? Because you have a question about it?

Yeah, and I haven't forgotten your hypocritical post. Have some guts!


Momma,
You may as well get used to it and accept or overlook it. I really doubt that these feeble attempts to quote scripture will change. The poster would have to understand it before a statement could be made about it. Anyone who actually knew the bible would know that Jesus proclaimed that we should love God above all else. The poster also probably did not cut and paste properly and that is why the book of Mathew is not showing. ;-)
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 08:20 pm
I still haven't gotten an answer to:

I'll repeat my question to you:

Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 09:00 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Lot'sa jesus advocates too! LOL


Feeling outnumbered, CI?
Cool
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 09:02 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
I still haven't gotten an answer to:

I'll repeat my question to you:

Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.
Before you die of anorexia, and since the question you asked is now buried under many pages of blather, perhaps you could bring us up to date on what you are talking about.

I'd hate to see a guy who refers to himself as an old fart hold his breath too long. Or I guess I'd hate to be around when he finally lets loose. Laughing
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 09:33 pm
C.I.,

I answered your question immediately after you asked it. AND I PUT IT ALL IN CAPS! Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes

Kiwi, Intrepid, Neo!,

Someday I will learn not to get into these bouts when I have a headache. The migraines make me edgy and I let brahmin's (IMO) lack of respect for me and everyone else get to me. Very Happy
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 09:42 pm
neologist wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I still haven't gotten an answer to:

I'll repeat my question to you:

Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.
Before you die of anorexia, and since the question you asked is now buried under many pages of blather, perhaps you could bring us up to date on what you are talking about.

I'd hate to see a guy who refers to himself as an old fart hold his breath too long. Or I guess I'd hate to be around when he finally lets loose. Laughing

yeah I was wondering what CI was on about as well... Laughing
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 09:44 pm
KiwiChic wrote:
neologist wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I still haven't gotten an answer to:

I'll repeat my question to you:

Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.
Before you die of anorexia, and since the question you asked is now buried under many pages of blather, perhaps you could bring us up to date on what you are talking about.

I'd hate to see a guy who refers to himself as an old fart hold his breath too long. Or I guess I'd hate to be around when he finally lets loose. Laughing

yeah I was wondering what CI was on about as well... Laughing


Whatever it is... it must be important for him to hold his breath for a whole 2 seconds. Perhaps if he were to hold it longer, the answer might come to him in a vision. Laughing
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 09:55 pm
Laughing Laughing I think its been well over 2 seconds by now!
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neologist
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 10:00 pm
KiwiChic wrote:
neologist wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
I still haven't gotten an answer to:

I'll repeat my question to you:

Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.
Before you die of anorexia, and since the question you asked is now buried under many pages of blather, perhaps you could bring us up to date on what you are talking about.

I'd hate to see a guy who refers to himself as an old fart hold his breath too long. Or I guess I'd hate to be around when he finally lets loose. Laughing

yeah I was wondering what CI was on about as well... Laughing
I see by your avatar, CI has been visiting you. Laughing
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KiwiChic
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 10:11 pm
LOL not yet, but he may need to soon Laughing
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Pauligirl
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 10:28 pm
Momma Angel wrote:


The God of the Bible is very special to me. He was not created by man. God created man, not the other way around.

I am curious about something. If, as you say, God is just one of many that were created to explain why things go bump in the night, then why wasn't the OT left out of the Bible? If you are going to create a God for yourself, then why not create one that stands up to your standards? Why have it written the way it is? Do you think those that wrote the Bible, assuming it was a made up thing, would have written it the way they did if they were making up a God? Seems to me if God were to be created, these issues would not be an issue.

Oh yeah, and I have no idea who those people are. They are people aren't they?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 26 Sep, 2005 11:17 pm
Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.

You'll have to ask MA what she meant by "taken into account" to understand the bible. Those are her words, not mine. I was asking the question, don't you see?
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 08:05 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.

You'll have to ask MA what she meant by "taken into account" to understand the bible. Those are her words, not mine. I was asking the question, don't you see?

C.I.,

I don't think you read my posts very well. I answered this question for you right after you asked it. You kept posting you were waiting and waiting, etc.

Then, I posted that I answered your question right after you asked it. Obviously, you didn't read that post nor did you bother to go back and read the answer when I posted RIGHT AFTER you asked the question.

So, for the sake of expediency, I will give you the answer again, ok? And yes, I am going to put it all in caps so you can see it.

YOU HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE STORY!!!!!!!!

When you read a book do you just read what paragraphs you want and jump to the end? You have to READ THE WHOLE THING! The whole thing tells the story.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 09:10 am
Momma Angel wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.

You'll have to ask MA what she meant by "taken into account" to understand the bible. Those are her words, not mine. I was asking the question, don't you see?

C.I.,

I don't think you read my posts very well. I answered this question for you right after you asked it. You kept posting you were waiting and waiting, etc.

Then, I posted that I answered your question right after you asked it. Obviously, you didn't read that post nor did you bother to go back and read the answer when I posted RIGHT AFTER you asked the question.

So, for the sake of expediency, I will give you the answer again, ok? And yes, I am going to put it all in caps so you can see it.

YOU HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE STORY!!!!!!!!

When you read a book do you just read what paragraphs you want and jump to the end? You have to READ THE WHOLE THING! The whole thing tells the story.


MA...the rationalization "you have to read the whole thing"...is just that...a rationalization...and a red herring.

I can read the entire of Little Red Ridinghood...and that will not change the fact that there is a wolf involved in the story...or that the wolf managed in some way to exchange places with Ridinghood's grandmother.

I can read the entire of Snow White...and that will not change the fact that she has an encounter with seven dwarves.

You can read the entire Bible...and it will not change the fact that the god of the Bible is jealous, vengeful, revenge driven, quick-to-anger slow-to-forgive, barbaric, tyrannical, petty, and murderous.
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Arella Mae
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 09:32 am
Frank Apisa wrote:
Momma Angel wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
Please explain to us what you mean by "taken into account?" I'll hold my breath - for two seconds.

You'll have to ask MA what she meant by "taken into account" to understand the bible. Those are her words, not mine. I was asking the question, don't you see?

C.I.,

I don't think you read my posts very well. I answered this question for you right after you asked it. You kept posting you were waiting and waiting, etc.

Then, I posted that I answered your question right after you asked it. Obviously, you didn't read that post nor did you bother to go back and read the answer when I posted RIGHT AFTER you asked the question.

So, for the sake of expediency, I will give you the answer again, ok? And yes, I am going to put it all in caps so you can see it.

YOU HAVE TO READ THE WHOLE STORY!!!!!!!!

When you read a book do you just read what paragraphs you want and jump to the end? You have to READ THE WHOLE THING! The whole thing tells the story.


MA...the rationalization "you have to read the whole thing"...is just that...a rationalization...and a red herring.

I can read the entire of Little Red Ridinghood...and that will not change the fact that there is a wolf involved in the story...or that the wolf managed in some way to exchange places with Ridinghood's grandmother.

I can read the entire of Snow White...and that will not change the fact that she has an encounter with seven dwarves.

You can read the entire Bible...and it will not change the fact that the god of the Bible is jealous, vengeful, revenge driven, quick-to-anger slow-to-forgive, barbaric, tyrannical, petty, and murderous.

Frank,

Don't you take everything into account when deciding whether someone is your friend or not? Don't you like to have a pretty good idea of all of their character and not just one particular part of it?

If you were a defendant on trial for your life, do you want things left out and not the whole story told? Sure, maybe you killed someone but don't you think it might be important why you killed someone? I mean, if he was trying to kill you, I'd say that's self-defense not murder. So, you need to have as much of the story as possible to render your verdict.

I would say, judging by most of the posts of those claiming the Bible is not true, they would be a prosecuting attorney trying to toss evidence out right and left.

Yes, God in the OT did the things it said He did. It also tells you why He did those things, but you and others have not accepted the fact that He is God and He makes the rules, not us.
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rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 09:57 am
This thread was more fun when we were explaining evolution. (Evolution? How?)

At least with science there's some rational footing to base a discussion on, even if there's disagreement. With a pure Bible discussion it's just a free-for-all of wild interpretations and emotional rants.

The discussion has moved from, Evolution? How? to Bible? Huh??
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neologist
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 10:05 am
Pauligirl wrote:
If I had written the bible, the god would be up to my standards. . .
P
The height of arrogance, my dear.

You, whose entire perception of reality is limited by the constructs of space and time would presume to judge God, who created them.

And the pot complains to the potter.
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thunder runner32
 
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Reply Tue 27 Sep, 2005 10:05 am
Yeahh! Emotional rants!
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