neologist wrote:Rex; Chill out.
What about the so-called Lord's prayer would not be addressed to Christians?
Also, CI is talking about regular old ordinary bread like the kind you use for your PB&J sandwich. You know; the stuff people are dying for the want of.
Jesus Christ's ministry was
to Israel and
not the world.. He did not change the focus of his ministry until the day of his ascension... the last verses of Mark...
I do not believe in religion I believe in what the Bible says...
Where did Jesus Christ address the "Church of the body" in the lord's prayer? He didn't...
The lord's prayer says forgive us our debts as we forgive our debtors...
The epistles say, salvation is not of works and they also say that if we just ask God then we will be forgiven of our sins, no mention of our forgiveness being based on if we forgive others. Though forgiveness is a virtue in the epistles but not hinged on if God forgives us. The logic is that if God freely forgives us then we will out of a thankful heart forgive others...
God forgives if we are really sorry and our confession is with our words and heart... no mention of it being based on "works' in fact it is totally the contrary. If God forgives us and our debtors do not, then they [our debtors] are not in the image of God...
Now you may apply what was addressed
to Israel... to the church, that is your free will choice, but I choose to apply in my life what was addressed to "the church" which contradicts what Jesus told Israel.
Matthew 6:11 Give us this day our daily bread.
Phillipians 4:19 But my God shall supply all your need [even daily bread] according to his riches in glory by Christ Jesus.
Matthew 6:12 And forgive us our debts, as we forgive our debtors. [this is works]
Ephesians 2:8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God:
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Not of works, lest any man should boast.
Matthew 10:5-15 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go
not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans
enter ye not: 6 But go rather
to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mark 16:15
And he said unto them,
Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel
to every creature.
Comment:
These contradictions simply vanish when it is understood "to whom the word is addressed..." Jesus's ministry was
to the lost sheep of the house of Israel and the epistles of Paul are addressed
to the church.
Ephesians 1:1 Paul, an apostle of Jesus Christ by the will of God,
to the saints which are at Ephesus, and
to the faithful in Christ Jesus: [that is you and me]
I am certainly not part of the lost sheep of the house of Israel... that was based on lineage not believing...
In the Gospels Jesus refers to the followers of God as "sheep"...
Romans 8
36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37
Nay, [we are not sheep] in all these things
we are more than conquerors through him that loved us
To whom is the word addressed? Very important...
Romans 15:4
For whatsoever things were written aforetime were written
for our learning, [for our learning and not to us] that we through patience and comfort of the scriptures might have hope.
There is a difference between these two prepositions for and to...
Something can be
for you but not
to you...
Peace with God...
