Neologist
Did I ever say I accepted her story? If not then why do you assume I did?
Rex
Joshua Chapter 6
2And the LORD said unto Joshua, See, I have given into thine hand Jericho, and the king thereof, and the mighty men of valour.
3And ye shall compass the city, all ye men of war, and go round about the city once. Thus shalt thou do six days.
20So the people shouted when the priests blew with the trumpets: and it came to pass, when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat, so that the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city.
21And they utterly destroyed all that was in the city, both man and woman, young and old, and ox, and sheep, and ass, with the edge of the sword.
22But Joshua had said unto the two men that had spied out the country, Go into the harlot's house, and bring out thence the woman, and all that she hath, as ye sware unto her.
23And the young men that were spies went in, and brought out Rahab, and her father, and her mother, and her brethren, and all that she had; and they brought out all her kindred, and left them without the camp of Israel.
24And they burnt the city with fire, and all that was therein: only the silver, and the gold, and the vessels of brass and of iron, they put into the treasury of the house of the LORD.
25And Joshua saved Rahab the harlot alive, and her father's household, and all that she had; and she dwelleth in Israel even unto this day; because she hid the messengers, which Joshua sent to spy out Jericho.
26And Joshua adjured them at that time, saying, Cursed be the man before the LORD, that riseth up and buildeth this city Jericho: he shall lay the foundation thereof in his firstborn, and in his youngest son shall he set up the gates of it.
27So the LORD was with Joshua; and his fame was noised throughout all the country.
Joshua Chapter 8
23And the king of Ai they took alive, and brought him to Joshua.
24And it came to pass, when Israel had made an end of slaying all the inhabitants of Ai in the field, in the wilderness wherein they chased them, and when they were all fallen on the edge of the sword, until they were consumed, that all the Israelites returned unto Ai, and smote it with the edge of the sword.
25And so it was, that all that fell that day, both of men and women, were twelve thousand, even all the men of Ai.
26For Joshua drew not his hand back, wherewith he stretched out the spear, until he had utterly destroyed all the inhabitants of Ai.
27Only the cattle and the spoil of that city Israel took for a prey unto themselves, according unto the word of the LORD which he commanded Joshua.
28And Joshua burnt Ai, and made it an heap for ever, even a desolation unto this day.
29And the king of Ai he hanged on a tree until eventide: and as soon as the sun was down, Joshua commanded that they should take his carcase down from the tree, and cast it at the entering of the gate of the city, and raise thereon a great heap of stones, that remaineth unto this day.
Are you going to tell me this is all meaningless; it was put here to test our faith and to see if we can find hidden passages that give a different meaning?
God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan "forever". This promise is still used to justify the the unending battles over the land in the Middle East. Genesis 13:14-15, 17:8
But God kept kicking them out because they were bad boys and girls. Every time he decided to give them their land back God had them slaughter the men women and children who came in behind them.
Isn't God of the Bible nice?
cicerone imposter wrote:God gives Abraham and his descendants all of the land of Canaan "forever". This promise is still used to justify the the unending battles over the land in the Middle East. Genesis 13:14-15, 17:8
Funny you should say that. Many nominal christians (the ones who had the power) supported the repatriation of Jews to their ancestral home because of the misguided belief that the so called 'battle of Armageddon' and the return of Jesus could take place only if natural Jews occupied Jerusalem.
Once again, you have mistaken the twisted lies of the priestcraft as if they were somehow justified by scripture.
The end is near, as it has been for the last 2,000 years.
http://www.aqsa.org.uk/JournalsDetail.aspx?id=145
When you consider the seventh creative day has not yet ended, it must be a short time in God's timetable.
Quote:When you consider the seventh creative day has not yet ended
I swear that sister Atilla told us that GOD PUNCHED OUT ON THE 6TH DAY AND THEN RESTED.
Is he still resting.
What happened on the eighth day?
Just show me where it says the seventh day has ended.
If you believe the bible, that is. :wink:
Conservative Christians who believe in Creationism say each of those creation days was a 24 hour day.
Jews also believe the days were 24 hour days.
xingu, Only some people like neo were given the special skills to interpret the bible for its "real" meaning. The rest of us are relegated to what is written, and are open to misinterpretations.
xingu wrote:RexRed wrote:neologist wrote:You really need to look these up, rex. Most of those resurrected will live on earth.
The entire bible was written by men to educate us as to God's perspective.
True, some of the enemies of Israel, (many, in fact)
were killed by their own hands. The story of Gideon is one example.
But, I would really like to know which passages have given you your idea.
Here are some of the things I have just found in looking back through the scriptures.
1 Kings 2:32
And the LORD shall return his blood upon his own head, who fell upon two men more righteous and better than he, and slew them with the
sword,
1 Kings 19:10
And he said, I have been very jealous for the LORD God of hosts: for the children of Israel have forsaken thy covenant, thrown down thine altars, and slain thy prophets with the
sword; and I, even I only, am left; and they seek my life, to take it away.
2 Kings 19:7
Behold, I will send a blast upon him, and he shall hear a rumour, and shall return to his own land; and I will cause him to fall by the
sword in his own land.
1 Chronicles 10:4
Then said Saul to his armourbearer, Draw thy
sword, and thrust me through therewith; lest these uncircumcised come and abuse me. But his armourbearer would not; for he was sore afraid. So Saul took a sword, and fell upon it.
Many of the worlds greatest despots have died by their own hand...
You are taking quotes out of context; quotes that have nothing to do with Joshua and the slaughter,or murder, of innocent children.
Yes but they do show insight into what God had to deal with... God is the common factor that relates all of the verses.
neologist wrote:You really need to look these up, rex. Most of those resurrected will live on earth.
The entire bible was written by men to educate us as to God's perspective.
True, some of the enemies of Israel, (many, in fact)
were killed by their own hands. The story of Gideon is one example.
But, I would really like to know which passages have given you your idea.
Jeremiah 2:30
In vain have I smitten your children; they received no correction:
your own sword hath devoured
your prophets, like a destroying lion.
Job 5:15
But he saveth the poor from the sword, from their mouth, and from the hand of the mighty.
Job 5:20
In famine he shall redeem thee from death: and in war from the power of the sword.
Quote:Yes but they do show insight into what God had to deal with
What God had to deal with? So the Bible brings God down to the lowest level of human depravity. It make him no better then the Caanites he slaughters.
After God of the Bible punishes the Egyptians for making "his" people slaves he makes them slaveholders.
He condemns the Caanites for sacrificing children to their Gods and slaughters all their children.
And your trying to put a nice spin on it.
Go figure.
"...what god had to deal with..." ROFLMAO
xingu wrote:Conservative Christians who believe in Creationism say each of those creation days was a 24 hour day.
Jews also believe the days were 24 hour days.
I should listen to you, who cannot grasp even the most elementary teachings of the bible? How many hours would you say are in this day? "This is a history of the heavens and the earth in the time of their being created, in the day that Jehovah God made earth and heaven." (Genesis 2:4)
cicerone imposter wrote:xingu, Only some people like neo were given the special skills to interpret the bible for its "real" meaning. The rest of us are relegated to what is written, and are open to misinterpretations.
Any one can understand the bible. Whatever I say, you would be well advised to check it out for yourself. All I can do is point you in a direction.
Most folks won't take the time. I can't control that and don't want to.
xingu wrote:Neologist
Did I ever say I accepted her story? If not then why do you assume I did?
Then why bother posting it?
xingu wrote:Quote:Yes but they do show insight into what God had to deal with
What God had to deal with? So the Bible brings God down to the lowest level of human depravity. It make him no better then the Caanites he slaughters.
After God of the Bible punishes the Egyptians for making "his" people slaves he makes them slaveholders.
He condemns the Caanites for sacrificing children to their Gods and slaughters all their children.
And your trying to put a nice spin on it.
Go figure.
God has reasons... do the ends justify the means? Maybe if you are God. I see that you are not willing to cut God any slack. God has foreknowledge... he know that if he does not act in time that all could be lost... Now are you going to argue with that?
John 10:10
The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it more abundantly.
"God has reasons... do the ends justify the means? Maybe if you are God. I see that you are not willing to cut God any slack. God has foreknowledge... he know that if he doe not act in time that all could be lost... Now are you going to argue with that?"
Yes, a million times yes. Nay, a billion times yes.
God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son. God so loved the world that he created natural disasters and diseases that kills millions. Ever wonder why christians pray to god for their health? God would listen to one prayer, but can willy-nilly kill thousands of innocent people without good cause? Is that an example of god's love? What about children born with defects, HIV/AIDS, or those that die at birth? God so loved the world, that he commands "thou shalt not kill," but allows the killing of a burgler, approves of slavery, and is homophobic about gays and lesbians. How does christians reconcile all of this in their heads?
