Progressives (Liberals)

@Lash,

Lash wrote:

The ends justify the means.

As Macchiavelli told the Prince: He says it’s very important to appear merciful, faithful, humane, upright, and religious. He also says that one must be prepared to act in a manner contrary to the appearance to keep up the appearance. so that everyone can see what you appear to be, and only a few will get close enough to touch you and actually find out what happened.

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@bobsal u1553115,

bobsal u1553115 wrote:

I know. First she say, "I don't follow personalities" and then she starts pumpng Bernie who is nothing if not a personality in the very next paragraph. I love Bernie but if he can't win the nomination, he sure can't win the election.

This election is most assuredly not about personalities (Trump's the biggest personality of all) and it isn't so much about ideology past Trump or not. Its about fixing the damage done and getting to a place where we can reform parties and add more voices to the mix - to both of the parties and changing the way elections are done to make third party challengers really mean something past "spoiling" a two party election. We need to make third parties viable and healthy.

If Lash and livinglava were sincere they'd get that and get on board.

What is so difficult about that highlighted part for people to understand?

Are they thinking that there are lots of Trump supporters who are thinking, "If only Bernie had won the nomination, I would be willing to vote for him?"

The fact that he was not able to get enough of the people who are with him in spirit to vote for him...

...is damn persuasive evidence that he would lose the general election by a greater margin than he lost the primary race.

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@hightor,

hightor wrote:

I believe this diminishes the strength of your argument. Violation of civil liberties is a serious enough charge;

I disagree. It is significant that people's civil liberties are being violated for no reason at all.

If I merely state that progressives are violating people's civil liberties then I don't make that point.

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@Frank Apisa,

She does confirmation better than anyone.

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James Fallows
@JamesFallows
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Neil Cavuto, just now on Fox, to Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC).

“Senator, you’re our only African-American Senator…”

The “our” was interesting.

(True only if “our” means GOP.)

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For all of the Centrists with no clue about reality:
A primer.

It’s not Trump—it’s you.

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@Lash,

Dialectic is nice, its fun, its intoxicating. And it hasn't produced a candidate or campaign platform yet past nice, fun, intoxicating conversation.

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@Lash,

Quote:

Policies are standards of life for people.
Your tribe has no standards. No character. No use for real people. Just a bunch of millionaires performing for mindless fans.

If you were really concerned with your ideal policies you wouldn't vote for third party candidacy which guarantees you will have the polar opposite of your ideal policies.

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@revelette1,

Your vote doesn’t guarantee anything.

My vote only guarantees that I will speak up for what I believe in.
I’ll sleep well at night.

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@Lash,

Right now. Today. I want to go a little deeper than that. What happens on Nov 3 will determine how well we'll sleep after Nov 4. If Trump wins the Greens will be in the same deep merde with the test of us.

When Trump feels like "rounding 'em up", what makes you think Bernie will not be a cell next to us?

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@bobsal u1553115,

Quote:

When Trump feels like "rounding 'em up", what makes you think Bernie will not be a cell next to us?

Where is that absolute bullshit coming from? It is the progressives a Democrats that want political prisoners. That is what Communists do and your party is much closer to fascism and Communism than Trump will ever be.

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@bobsal u1553115,

You do you, but I’d much rather be in a cell next to Bernie Sanders, Cornel West, or Martin Luther King, Jr than to hand power to a criminal racist incarcerating liar like Joe Biden.

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@Lash,

https://cdn.creators.com/1054/255014/255014_image.jpg

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@oralloy,

Your quote kinda kills your authority.

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@Lash,

I don't understand. What authority? What quote?

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@oralloy,

Your post resonated strongly with me...and then I see ‘When you start looting, we start shooting‘ and it destroys the moral authority your post conveyed to me.

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@Lash,

Lash wrote:

You do you, but I’d much rather be in a cell next to Bernie Sanders, Cornel West, or Martin Luther King, Jr than to hand power to a criminal racist incarcerating liar like Joe Biden.

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@Lash,

Stealing and burning people's property is wrong.

You wouldn't like it much if it were your property that these looters were stealing and burning.

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@Lash,

Quote:

I was for POLICIES and I still am.

1. Lash, I don't think you were (EVER) for Bernie's policy, not now or at any previous time.
2. Lash, I don't think you were (EVER) for progressive policies, not now or at any previous time.
2. Lash, I think you are all in for Donald Trump.
3. And you were (ALWAYS) all in for Donald Trump.

Quote:

I appreciate Bernie for showing us the way.

Lash, you still continue to tell that (BLATANT) lie about how you appreciate Bernie.

Quote:

I forgive him for dropping the ball.

1. Lash, What is there to forgive?
2. Lash, you have (NEVER) been for Bernie or his policies.
3. Lash, you have (NEVER) believed in, and (NEVER) supported progressive policies.
4. Lash, you have (NEVER) believed in, and (NEVER) supported M4A.
5. Lash, you have (ALWAYS) been a true believer and supporter of Donald Trump.
6. Lash, Donald Trump is your guy.
7. Lash, I think you actually (worship) Donald Trump as a (GREAT) president.
8. Lash, just because you continue to put on this charade and pretense, doesn't mean that we can't see right through you.
9. Lash, there is ABSOLUTELY no difference between you and Coldjoint.

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@Olivier5,

Quote:

Yes, you're a fair-weather Bernite.

1. I disagree.
2. I think Lash was NEVER a Bernie supporter.
2. Not even a fair-weather supporter.
3. I think Lash was pretending to be a progressive the whole time.
4. I think Lash was pretending to be a Bernie supporter the whole time.

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