Real Music
 
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Reply Sun 31 May, 2020 09:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
1. I think you are missing the mark.

2. I believe Lash truly adores, loves, and supports Trump.

3. I believe Lash and Coldjoint respect and adore who Trump is and everything that Trump is about.

4. I believe Lash and Coldjoint share that view.

5. You would be hard press to find Lash or Coldjoint saying anything negative about Trump
in any significant way.

6. If Lash does say anything negative about Trump, you can be damn sure that it is something minor or insignificant.

7. Lash saves her real attacks for the democrats.

8. Anything regarding democrats, her attacks seems nasty and very aggressive.

9. It appears that Lash goes out of her way to avoid saying anything negative about her buddies Trump and Coldjoint.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sun 31 May, 2020 10:50 pm
@Real Music,
Quote:
It appears that Lash goes out of her way to avoid saying anything negative about her buddies Trump and Coldjoint.

All you are saying is that she does not gossip like you are doing in the post I just quoted. Lash is one of the few people here who tries hard to be civil.
oralloy
 
  -1  
Reply Sun 31 May, 2020 10:53 pm
@Real Music,
Real Music wrote:
I believe Lash and Coldjoint share that view.

You used to post your own views instead of talking about other posters.
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Real Music
 
  2  
Reply Sun 31 May, 2020 11:37 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
All you are saying is that she does not gossip like you are doing in the post I just quoted. Lash is one of the few people here who tries hard to be civil.

1. I see Coldjoint, Lash, and Trump as inseparable triplets.

2. Coldjoint, Lash, and Trump have each repeatedly continuously without a doubt shown themselves
to be the most uncivil people I have ever come across.

3. And that is no exaggeration.

4. Rudeness, nastiness, and disingenuous has been and continues to be what all three of them is all about.

coldjoint
 
  0  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 12:28 am
@Real Music,
Quote:
4. Rudeness, nastiness, and disingenuous has been and continues to be what all three of them is all about.

I think you should put both of them on ignore.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 12:34 am
@coldjoint,
I haven't followed much, but my sense is that Abrams scares Biden himself, let alone his electorate... I'd be surprised if he choses her.

The article implied that this ex-cop Val Demings would be a good VP choice under the circumstances... I don't know her, just read her wikipedia profile.
revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 08:25 am
@Olivier5,
Quote:
I haven't followed much, but my sense is that Abrams scares Biden himself, let alone his electorate... I'd be surprised if he choses her.


I don't know his thinking, but Abrams herself has indicated she is not interested after they were on TV together. But what action or words give you the sense Biden is actually afraid of Abrams?
Olivier5
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 09:24 am
@revelette1,
Why Stacey Abrams is making her case for VP -- everywhere
By Dan Merica and Donald Judd, CNN
Updated 1802 GMT (0202 HKT) April 26, 2020

(CNN) Stacey Abrams is everywhere, and she's not coy about her ambitions: She wants to be Joe Biden's running mate.

The former top Democrat in the Georgia House has been everywhere this month, giving interviews and speeches, appearing at digital forums and writing op-eds. She has described herself in interviews as an "excellent" pick for Biden, publicly gamed out how she would debate Vice President Mike Pence and argued why it would be a mistake not to pick a black woman like herself. These comments come as Biden, whose primary campaign benefited immensely from widespread support from black voters, faces public pressure to pick a woman of color as his running mate.

The directness belies years of precedent by prospective running mates, who often publicly play coy about the vice-presidential ambitions while simultaneously privately running campaigns to get themselves picked. In a series of interviews with CNN, aides, former bosses, and longtime friends say that straightforwardness reflects who Abrams has been for her entire adult life: A black woman raised in Mississippi and Georgia who feels if she is not upfront about her ambitions, she will get passed over.
revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 10:52 am
@Olivier5,
I read a headline sometime back about Abrams looking beyond VP and made the wrong assumption. She is looking beyond just a role for VP, but she does want the job.

Quote:
These other swing voters, oscillating between voting Democratic or not at all, are the Americans — largely racial minorities and young people — whom Ms. Abrams has devoted her career to reaching. As she explains it, there are overt voter suppression tactics, and then there is this more insidious thread, often unwittingly perpetuated by her own party, that tells this segment of swing voters that they are less worthy of courting.

Melanye Price, a professor of African-American studies and political science at Prairie View A&M University, said what was striking was not so much that Ms. Abrams views these unreliable voters as essential to the Democratic playbook, but that so few party leaders recognize their own role in alienating them. “It’s the biggest failure of the Democratic Party of the last decade,” she said. “I don’t think it’s malicious. I think it’s just benign neglect.”

As the first black woman to run as either major party’s candidate for governor in any state, Ms. Abrams became the face of the issue of voting rights in 2018, after narrowly losing her race to Brian Kemp, a Republican. She argued that racially motivated voter suppression had sealed Mr. Kemp’s victory, and shortly after launched Fair Fight, a PAC dedicated to expanding voter education and ballot access across the United States.

She still lived in her Atlanta townhouse, still read as many as three books at a time for fun (on rotation now: A biography of Huey Long, a novel called “A Place for Us,” and the latest from the sci-fi writer N.K. Jemisin). But she committed herself to the question of civic participation broadly and intensely, crisscrossing the country to raise money and give speeches, and starting another organization to educate voters on the importance of the census.

Since 2018, Fair Fight, along with its nonprofit arm, Fair Fight Action, has raised millions of dollars and funded teams at state Democratic parties across the country. In 2019, for example, Fair Fight helped Kentucky Democrats file a lawsuit that restored to the rolls some 175,000 voters who had been purged by the Republican governor. And amid the pandemic, the organization has shifted its focus to the expansion of voting by mail.

Ms. Abrams stressed that these efforts can matter little if citizens do not buy into the act of voting itself — in other words, if the barrier to participation is not so much a law or policy but a belief that the system has never valued one’s voice to begin with.

For Americans of color, it is often impossible to believe that there are any leaders who “want more for them,” Ms. Abrams said. It is critical, then, for Democrats to commit to persuading these communities that voting is still worth it, that “more and better is possible.”

Allowing disenchantment to fester unchecked, she reiterated, is its own blemish on the party. Few elections underscored the consequences better than in 2016, when black turnout dropped — and in many regions plummeted — contributing to Hillary Clinton’s losses in states like Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

As Lauren Groh-Wargo, Fair Fight’s chief executive and Ms. Abrams’s former campaign manager, explained it, campaigns often don’t turn to black voters until after Labor Day, sending a cursory crush of mailers following a summer of intensive and individualized outreach to white so-called “persuadables.”


NYT

The above is kind of what Stacey Abrams is all about, however, it does appear she wants the VP, probably to further her own goals which I hope she does. But you still haven't answered what action or words gave you the sense Biden is scared of Abrams. I mean, that is a pretty loaded statement and you should have something to back it up.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 11:33 am
@revelette1,
It's a guess but I see a few reasons. She comes from the progressive camp, for one, and could be hard to handle. For two, her experience is limited and yet this VP has a non-negligeable chance of becoming president if elected. She's very forceful, borderline aggressive about her wish to be on the ticket, for three, and I presume, perhaps wrongly, that Biden would not like to seem to bow to her presure.

I agree she's got assets, too. She's got some star appeal that goes with her strong personality, and she will get out the minority vote. And number one can be seen as an asset.
revelette1
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 12:24 pm
@Olivier5,
She is a progressive in the same sense many centrist are progressive. For Georgia she probably is seen as wildly progressive, but, she is a so called "centrist" as mainstream long time democrats have been labelled.

Is veepstakes leader Stacey Abrams a progressive? Maybe in Georgia — but it's complicated

She is more closely aligned with Obama than Bernie. On your suggestion that Biden is scared of Abrams. Well, I guess, everybody gets a sense of things.
Olivier5
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 01:30 pm
@revelette1,
So you 'd like her as your next VP?
snood
 
  5  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 05:20 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:

So you 'd like her as your next VP?

Two things:
Why do you say Biden and his constituents are “afraid” of Abrams?
What’s wrong with the prospect of her “as your next VP” (as you asked Rev)?
bobsal u1553115
 
  4  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 05:22 pm
@snood,
She's a powerful black woman and that might scare some people. Scares the bejeebers out of Georgia Republicans!
coldjoint
 
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Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 06:37 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
She's a powerful black woman

She is a manipulating progressive hack race and class baiter. Who found fame bitching about losing an election. She does not have the experience to run a country, just her mouth.
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snood
 
  4  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 07:01 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
bobsal u1553115 wrote:

She's a powerful black woman and that might scare some people. Scares the bejeebers out of Georgia Republicans!


Thanks, appreciate that, but I still am curious about Olivier’s answer about what Olivier meant by what Olivier said.
bobsal u1553115
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 07:03 pm
@snood,
Scares the bejeebers out of ol 'cj. She deserves a place at the table.
snood
 
  4  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 07:22 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Great. Still waiting for an answer from the person I asked.
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coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 07:28 pm
@bobsal u1553115,
Quote:
Scares the bejeebers out of ol 'cj.

People that want to destroy country should scare anyone.
bobsal u1553115
 
  3  
Reply Mon 1 Jun, 2020 07:52 pm
@coldjoint,
You're right, Trump scares the bejeebers out of me. Why does he want to destroy America?
 

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