layman
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 03:41 pm
@Lash,
[url][/url]8% on $16million
Not 52% on $29K

These are two different "taxes." One is on income, the other is on assets.

You could, of course, impose MANY different taxes, all on the same person(s).

And Burnie wants to do just that. He wants to "tax" virtually everything.

If you think that asset confiscation is just a tax, you should be talking to Marx, Lenin, and the rest of them damn commies, eh? They have a euphemism for everything they do.

They don't "steal" anything, for example. They "liberate" the items stolen.

They don't put you in a "concentration camp" because you wear glasses and are therefore likely an "intellectual." They send you to "re-education universities."
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 03:54 pm
@layman,
He doesn’t want to tax regular people.
He doesn’t want to tax old people—unless they’re multimillionaires.
He doesn’t want to tax poor people.

I think the multimillionaires can handle it.
layman
 
  0  
Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 03:57 pm
@Lash,
If I want what a multi-millionaire has, I don't need Burnie to help me get it. Me and some homeys will just bust into his crib with assault rifles, kill everyone there, and take all his ****, eh?

That's how the mobs under Lenin did it, ya know?
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 03:59 pm
@layman,
there are in the neighborhood of 30 developed countries which have government controlled healthcare plans, which cover everybody and have better healthcare metrics than we do. They all cost in toto around half per capita of what ours does. They've been doing it for decades. Clearly it can be done because it is being done. Pick one and put it into effect here. They've done it. Bernie can it too.
Setanta
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 04:10 pm
Truly wealthy people don't really care about income taxes, because they make their money from capital gains. The capital gains tax is 15%. You can bet that clown Sanders knows this. Anyone who really wants to see the wealthy pay their fair share should be calling for at the least a doubling of the capital gains tax.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 04:20 pm
You sorry motherfuckers haven’t even read his ******* policies.

Sanders DOES increase the number of people who’ll be paying capital gains tax.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/A1E27AFE-58D1-11EA-B651-F450FB4733D6

Capital Gains Tax: The IRS taxes the sale of an asset that’s grown in value over time, such as a stock. Taxpayers making at least $78,750, and filing single, are taxed at 15%. With some exceptions, single taxpayer earning above $434,550 face a 20% capital gains tax. Sanders’ capital gains tax rate would be the same as the income tax rate for households making over $250,000.


———————
I mean, how tf did you THINK he was going to pay for all these awesome people-saving policies?


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layman
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 04:34 pm
@hightor,
Lash wrote:
I mean, how tf did you THINK he was going to pay for all these awesome people-saving policies?


hightor wrote:


Raising the top marginal income tax rate to 52% on income over $10 million.

(Revenue raised: About $700 billion over 10 years.)

Taxing capital gains at the same rates as income from wages and cracking down on gaming through derivatives, like-kind exchanges, and the zero tax rate on capital gains passed on through bequests.

(Revenue raised: About $2.5 trillion over 10 years.)


There ya go! Tax the **** out of the rich, impose a death tax, and don't give any reward for "investing" money, which creates jobs.

What's that get ya? A little over 3 trillion it says.

Not even a drop in the bucket when you need 17.5 Trillion (other estimates say an additional 48 trillion would be needed, btw).

Aint gunna do it, pals. We need more taxes. LOTS more in taxes.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 04:39 pm
In other celebratory progressive news, the Niagara Gazette or some such reports Harvey Weinstein has penciled in a permanent date with Satan by way of Covid19.

Spread those cheeks, Harv.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 04:47 pm
I know this is asking A LOT BUT if you people could READ THIS, you may be WORTH THE BREATH expended to discuss this.

Save yourselves.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.marketwatch.com/amp/story/guid/A1E27AFE-58D1-11EA-B651-F450FB4733D6

Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 04:49 pm
@layman,
Do you have 10 million dollars?
5 million?

Get real.

It won’t hurt them to pay their fair share, Jesus Christ.
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layman
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 04:55 pm
@Lash,
Hmmm, says there:

Quote:
Estate Taxes: The current federal estate tax of 40% applies to estates worth more than $11.58 million in 2020. Sanders seeks an estate tax rate that starts at 45% for estates worth $3.5 million. It ranges up to 77% for estates valued above $1 billion.


So, among many other thefts, Burnie wants to take over 75% of a rich guy's assets when he dies, eh?

And what does the Treasury gain from this confiscation? It's not clear. That and numerous other tax hikes add up to only 2.5 trillion his website says.

Aint gunna make it. You can steal virtually all the money every billionaire has and you'll still be far short of what's needed.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 05:08 pm
@layman,
A billion!!!!! Are you worried that Bernie’s going to nab a chunk of your billions??

Really. Please tell me what you don’t like about that. It can pay for elderly people at the end of their lives so they can eat people food instead of cat food.

Please articulate what you don’t like about it.
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 05:16 pm
Btw, no matter what your response to this is, I respect you so much more than anybody else here who disagrees with me because you’ve taken on the policies instead of making up bogus **** about me.

(Tip o the 🎩, sir)
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layman
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 05:16 pm
Everyone has their own personal definition of what a "fair share," is, I suppose, and I have mine. Before I tell what it is, just remember that it is FAIR.

For tax purposes I have zero income. They don't "tax" money you steal. They just make you give it back to the person it was stolen from, if they catch you, which they never do, but, still...

But let's just multiply my income and say it's $1/per year, just so we can have some numbers to work with.

In that case, there are a lot of rich, greedy bastards who make over $50,000 a year, which is FIFTY THOUSAND TIMES what I make. It just aint no fair, I tells ya!

Now, here's what would be fair. Every one of those selfish parasites should be required to send me $1,000 a year, because I'm poor. That's ONLY 2% of what the jackals make.

What could possibly be more fair, I ask ya?
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layman
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 05:19 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

Please articulate what you don’t like about it.


It's purty simple, actually. I don't like commies, or commieism!
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 05:20 pm
Goddammit. I just ran all over the past two pages, thumbing you up on principle...

LOL. Lemme catch my breath and adopt a few more of your colloquialisms before tarring and feathering you. 🐓
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 05:23 pm
@layman,
I’m a gun-toting FDR independent. The corrupt fuckers changed regulations to make life too hard for regular people and unaccountable for wealthy people.

My people just want to change it back.
layman
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 05:43 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:

My people just want to change it back.


Well, there's easier and more reliable ways to make things right, I figure. Tell ya what...

What say, you and me, we team up? We'll both put on ski masks, slap some buckshot in our sawed-offs, and knock off a few 7-11's, ya know?

Then, if ya want, we can find some barn with a hayloft, and hang out for a spell.

Whaddaya say!?
Lash
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 06:21 pm
@layman,
Hayloft after the revolution, my brother.
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Real Music
 
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Reply Sun 22 Mar, 2020 06:41 pm
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