maporsche
 
  2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 11:44 am
@layman,
That Twitter user's profile says she's from Chicago.

But, you know, don't start letting facts have any bearing on your world view now.
hightor
 
  1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 11:47 am
@maporsche,
Quote:
That Twitter user's profile says she's from Chicago.

What are the chances that she's a Sanders or Gabbard voter?
snood
 
  1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 11:47 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

That Twitter user's profile says she's from Chicago.

But, you know, don't start letting facts have any bearing on your world view now.


No worries there. He never lets facts get in his way.
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maporsche
 
  1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 11:51 am
@hightor,
If you look at her twitter profile and past tweets she looks like a Warren supporter (just based on 3 tweets though)...nothing indicating either candidate after she dropped out.
hightor
 
  1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 11:54 am
@maporsche,
That ups her credibility...a bit.
maporsche
 
  1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 11:56 am
@hightor,
Yep. But this happens every single election. With hundreds of polling stations statewide, there will be problems in some of them.

Early voting in Illinois has been going on for 2 weeks not to mention a 3 week mail in voting process (of which almost daily emails have been going out to get ballots in peoples mailboxes).

Likely a miscommunication or non issue.
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maporsche
 
  2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 11:58 am
On Twitter, so far every tweet I've seen complaining about voting today is a Bernie supporter.

This isn't about the virus, it's about his dwindling election chances.
Brand X
 
  2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 12:01 pm
@maporsche,
Yep, it's rampant. It's started over the weekend.
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layman
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 12:16 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:

That Twitter user's profile says she's from Chicago.


Nothing in what you posted says that at all. She just says she's in Illinois. The responding post is the one which says the poster is in Chicago.
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Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 12:54 pm
@maporsche,
Quote:
In Arizona, Florida and Illinois, people seeking to vote encountered significant hurdles that appeared directly related to the coronavirus outbreak, according to interviews with voters and nonpartisan advocates. The three states chose to proceed with their contests this week while a fourth — Ohio — postponed in a controversial, eleventh-hour move on Monday night, citing a “health emergency.”

In locations around Chicago, voters arrived at polling places to find no election judges to run the precinct as well as no disinfecting supplies. Some voting locations in Palm Beach County, Fla., had not opened by late morning. And around Arizona, some people were directed to vote at municipal buildings that were otherwise closed to the public, causing confusion.

Even in Ohio, some voters showed up at polling sites on Tuesday morning only to learn that in-person voting was delayed until June 2. In some locations, advocates said, no signs were posted to indicate the change.
[...]
The chaos around the country underscored the last-minute nature of the planning in many jurisdictions as election officials grappled with hundreds of scared poll workers dropping out and evolving guidance from public health officials about whether voting was safe — all at the height of the Democratic presidential primary contest.

The widespread complaints raised questions about the decision to proceed with Tuesday’s primaries, even as the health crisis has deepened. Yet complaints also poured in about Ohio’s decision to postpone its primary, reflecting the difficult decisions state officials are facing.
[...]
Problems appeared especially pronounced in Illinois, where elections are administered by 108 local authorities. The state has 155 pledged delegates in the Democratic primary.

In Barrington, a northwest suburb of Chicago, election judges did not show up when doors opened at 6 a.m., causing frustration among voters. A spokesman for local election officials said replacements were sent “shortly before 9 a.m.”

When Emily Ioppolo, a theater production artist, and her boyfriend went to vote at 6 a.m. at a church in their Lakeview neighborhood, also on the North Side of Chicago, they encountered “empty tables set up with nothing on them.” Precinct workers told them that ballots and machines had not yet been delivered.

The couple returned after 7 a.m. and, once again, nothing was there. “They were trying to call the board of elections but no one was picking up,” she said.
[...]
In Palatine, a northwest suburb of Chicago, Kim Inman, 62, said she got pressure from her family not to serve as an election judge this year out of fears of contracting the coronavirus. She decided to go ahead after she received an email from the Cook County Clerk’s Office promising that her location would have hand sanitizer and disinfectant wipes.

When she showed up at 6 a.m., neither were there. “My family did not want me doing this,” she said.

By late morning Tuesday, no supplies had arrived. Two of the four judges also did not show up, so she was staffing Precinct 17 with just a high school student. Turnout had been light, with only about 70 people so far.
... ... ...

From a WP report
maporsche
 
  1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 01:17 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Not saying there are some issues...but there are over 1,000 polling places in Cook County (where Chicago is) today. There were always going to be some issues, just like every election.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 01:41 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
..but there are over 1,000 polling places in Cook County (where Chicago is) today.
(Been there, know the places named in my quote).
I've just read through the reports in both Chicago papers

My district has about 300,000 inhabitants, 315 polling stations (plus about 50 mail voting "stations"), all in the same place for any election (not for those party related!). Changes are announced weeks before. And if something really is missing (I remember, we didn't have the key to open the lock for the box with all the paperwork) - the members of the electoral board (I've been in one for many years) are at place 45 minutes before opening and arrange everything.
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layman
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 02:01 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Walter Hinteler wrote:
Problems appeared especially pronounced in Illinois, where elections are administered by 108 local authorities.


Nice try, Walt. None of this is the fault of "local authorities" (well, not democratic ones, anyway). It all Trump's fault, I tells ya!
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georgeob1
 
  2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 02:39 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Exactly. And it is really the only strategy to adopt now. The three of us here made the decision this morning to remain in the house other than for walks if we choose. Shopping will be done by a young relative as needed. It's unclear whether there are any verified infections in this small city but there will be soon enough and it's likely there are unrecognized infections now. Brother will miss golf and his work for Habitat for Humanity. Sister in law will have to cease all her personal support for myeloma patients (she is one herself). I'll miss some social interactions and a bunch of renovation work that was upcoming but that's really nothing of concern for me. Best of luck to you and yours.

Thanks, and I wish you all well too.
Trying times, and the path ahead isn't yet clear. There are lots of published statistics about the incidence and fatalities associated with the coronavirus in countries around the world. However it's hard to discern patterns in them, due (I believe) mostly to wide variations in both the stage of the infection's spread, and likely large variations in the fraction of the cases actually detected and reported in each.

Mortality due a disease is usually an after-the-fact finding based on the ratio of deaths to the sum of deaths and full recoveries. Hard to know that while the disease is spreading and data on outcomes lags. Most attention now is on the ratio of deaths to cases reported. However using reported death and recovery data for China, where the infection is most mature, one gets a mortality rate of 4.5%, which is higher than the current 4,0% deaths to cases rate for that country - and both are a good deal higher than the 1% -2% rates widely noted for the disease. The strange high communicability of the infection and, frequent absence of symptoms among many infected, may well raise both the measured case and recovery rates as time passes, erasing these differences.

China's case load appears to have leveled off at about 56 total cases per million population, and, more significantly, 6.4 active cases per million population. For the U.S & Canada the latter number is about 13.2, while for European countries it is between ~97 (France and Germany) to above 250 (Italy, Switzerland and Norway) ! Hard to figure what this may eventually reveal. However it does indicate the likely reason for Trumps' termination of flights from Europe and Trudeau's even more draconian measures (Though Canada's southern border is likely more easily managed than ours.)

One bit of good news is that both the rate of increase and number of new cases reported has been decreasing in both America and most European countries for the last few days - following patterns already established in China & S. Korea.

layman
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 03:56 pm
I know that bacteria aint the same as virii, although I couldn't tell you the exact difference.

But, whatever, them microscopic critters seem to be awfully damn smart, extremely cunning, and can be deadly to humans when they execute their deviously-planned mass attacks, bum-rushing your ass.

But not as much as human beens, I figure. Bring it on, mofos.


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blatham
 
  2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 04:28 pm
@georgeob1,
Looking to the period when the sorts of measures now required lessen and things move back towards our lives of two months ago, many small businesses will be gone and many stores/offices empty. Every town and city will be changed. "Normal" social practices will be altered, some likely forever. Institutions will change. We can slow and flatten the curve but as vaccines aren't likely to appear for a year or more, there will be localized (or greater) flare-ups here and there and we'll have to maintain some of the present protocols for a long while. And we'll lose a lot of people, of course. How much social turmoil we'll witness is an unknown but I don't see how we avoid that.

We've known for a long time that some pandemic like this was inevitable. We just hoped, as is natural, that it wouldn't happen to us. I do hope a consequence is that a generation of humans will come to realize (again) that we're all in this together and that caring for our neighbors means they'll be caring for us as well. Sociopaths excepted, of course.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 04:50 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Sociopaths excepted, of course.

That leaves Islam out. Islam is pandemic, too.
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snood
 
  1  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 05:19 pm
Can anyone explain to me what good purpose is served by Bernie staying in this race now?
ehBeth
 
  2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 05:24 pm
Florida results are starting to come in. Did Sanders campaign there? Isn't he supposed to have the Hispanic vote?
ehBeth
 
  2  
Reply Tue 17 Mar, 2020 05:49 pm
Quote:
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez

96% of airline profits over the last decade went to buying up their own stocks to juice the price - not raising wages or other investments.

If there is so much as a DIME of corporate bailout money in the next relief package, it should include a reinstated ban on stock buybacks.
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