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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 05:56 pm
@edgarblythe,
I didn't include everything in my list, such as infrastructure, but I think it's plain what this liberal wants.
edgarblythe wrote:

As a liberal, I will be watching our Democratic representatives in both houses to see which ones are on the take for massive bribes - donations - that keep them from doing the work of the people. Issues they need to pursue are universal healthcare, reining in the military adventures as well as military budget, expanding Social Security, shutting down profit prisons, returning our basic voting rights, restoring DACA, getting big money out of politics. I know some yokel will castigate by saying they haven't the power to do any of this. But they could push for it and be able to say they did without lying in 2020.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 05:59 pm
Quote:
The Great Progressive Collapse

https://www.commentarymagazine.com/politics-ideas/campaigns-elections/great-progressives-collapse/
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 08:38 pm
Michael Moore

The Parkland kids ignited a revolution. This is not the last u will hear from them. They did something yesterday that the Democratic Party & anti-gun groups have been unable to pull off — they targeted and DEFEATED 27 NRA-backed candidates and Congressmen! This is just the beginning. Congrats to all you beautiful Stoneman Douglas High students and grads. Lead the way!
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 09:07 pm
@edgarblythe,
I wonder if it is true that there will be a recount in Florida?
coldjoint
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 09:24 pm
@ehBeth,
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I wonder if it is true that there will be a recount in Florida?

How about a few rallies with "He's not my Senator/Governer" signs and some violence?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 7 Nov, 2018 10:29 pm
@ehBeth,
I haven't kept up with that.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 11:00 am
My thoughts are with R B Ginsburg, this day. She is and has been a remarkable woman.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 11:41 am
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
I expect many investigations to begin and I expect that we'll see Trumps tax returns.
I expect that the courts will only allow the Democrats to see them if they can produce a good reason for looking at them.

And I expect that anyone who leaks the returns to the public without Trump's permission will be criminally prosecuted.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 11:42 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:
If it really goes like Moore is suggesting, I agree, Impeach.
If we outlaw the Democratic Party, we can put a stop to their political witch hunts.
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oralloy
 
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Reply Thu 8 Nov, 2018 11:43 am
@farmerman,
farmerman wrote:
I really think the incoming house should remind Jutice Kavanaugh that Supreme Court Justices can also be impeached and tried. (Just a little bit of valentines day early)
This abuse of the law to harm people who disagree with them is why we need to outlaw the Democratic Party.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 9 Nov, 2018 07:49 am
Michael Moore

Verified account

@MMFlint
7h7 hours ago
More Michael Moore Retweeted Ari Berman
It has to feel awful knowing that your side is outnumbered by the millions and the only way you can hang on to any power is to simply rig it/steal it/prevent black people from voting. That is the work of cowards.Michael Moore added,
Ari Berman
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@AriBerman
If this election has taught us anything it's that Republicans are terrified of free and fair elections where every eligible voter can participate and every ballot counts
178 replies 1,876 retweets 7,513 likes
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 9 Nov, 2018 09:09 am
The popular narrative is to blame PTSD for Ian Post (I think that's his last name) and his massacre. They completely overlook his past, before he joined the military. Incident of attacking and feeling up his high school coach, for instance. He already had rage before getting PTSD.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 9 Nov, 2018 08:52 pm
Are the sudden California fires arson?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2018 07:28 am
Escape from Malibu
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DrmRr3aW4AA4CUz.jpg
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2018 11:37 am
U.S. Senator Elizabeth Warren
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For over 3 years, the US has helped the Saudi-led coalition bomb Yemen with few constraints. Thousands of civilians have died in airstrikes. When I asked the Pentagon if it tracked the Saudi aircraft we refueled and the targets struck, they said they didn’t.

Yemen is in crisis – and we can no longer look the other way. Cutting off US refueling support is a start, but it’s too little, too late. We cannot continue selling the Saudis weapons that kill Yemeni civilians. We cannot continue to support this war.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2018 11:53 am
@edgarblythe,
Quote:
We cannot continue selling the Saudis weapons that kill Yemeni civilians. We cannot continue to support this war.

I see, the Saudis would not buy weapons elsewhere and the killing would stop? Please.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2018 12:29 pm
possible impacts of the midterms at one of the levels that most interests me - state

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/9/18075536/midterm-elections-2018-results-governors-state-legislatures-agenda

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Democrats flipped seven governorships, six state legislative chambers, and more than 300 state House and Senate seats on election night. The party went a long way to regaining control at the state level after suffering devastating losses throughout the Barack Obama years.


some interesting state by state breakdowns at the link

longish read
coldjoint
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2018 12:36 pm
@ehBeth,
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Democrats flipped seven governorships,

Republicans still maintain the majority. Why not mention that?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sat 10 Nov, 2018 12:37 pm
really interesting read imnsho

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2018/11/10/18076872/trump-46-percent-solition

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Trump stands out so strongly in the political landscape that takes often emerge that neglect to mention the fact that he had an opponent.

But the central reality of the 2016 campaign is that both major parties’ nominees were unusually unpopular. The typical scenario in 21st-century presidential campaigns has been for even the losing candidate to be viewed favorably by at least a narrow majority of the population. But 2016 gave us a unique scenario in which both nominees were underwater, leaving voters who approved of neither candidate as a crucial swing constituency.

Those voters (like everyone else) overwhelmingly assumed Clinton would win the election, lots of them voted for Jill Stein or Gary Johnson, and consequently, Trump won an Electoral College victory — even while being below 50 percent not only in the three crucial Midwestern states but also Arizona, Florida, and North Carolina.


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Democrats spent the two years since the election doing what parties that lose do — recruiting a different crop of candidates, opening themselves up to some new activists and internal turmoil, and changing their messaging focus (2018 ads were all about health care, none about Trump being mean).

Trump, meanwhile, spent two years acting as if winning 46 percent of the vote was the greatest achievement in the history of American politics, when in reality, Mitt Romney and John Kerry did better than that and Michael Dukakis did nearly as well. He broke his promise to divest from his business interests, broke his promise to promulgate a health care plan that would cover everybody, and went wildly over the top in breaking his promise to lay off the tweets and behave in a more presidential manner.

Through it all, the press would stop from time to time to remark on how attuned Trump was to his base, and how perfect he was at picking various fights — with the media, with the nation of Canada, with immigrants, with the FBI’s counterintelligence division — that played to his base’s sensibilities.

This was all probably true. (Though, again, wet-noodle Romney got a higher share of the vote.) But it was also somewhat bizarre. Winning the presidency while losing the popular vote 46-48 is within the rules of the game, but it left Trump with a negative margin of error. The math was plain as day that all Democrats had to do was consolidate the people who didn’t like Trump and they’d blow the Republicans out.

But the House GOP seemed confident that their gerrymanders would hold. And then when polling in September and October suggested clearly that it wouldn’t, Trump started ranting about the caravan. The political goal here, we were told, was to rally Trump’s base to come back home, which more or less happened. Except 46 percent of the population just isn’t that many people.


and what really matters?

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One major advantage Democrats had in achieving unity in 2018 is that in congressional elections, you’re allowed to run different candidates in different seats.

Jared Golden, a young veteran and former Susan Collins staffer from Lewiston, Maine, is a nearly perfect candidate to run in the state’s Second Congressional District. And his campaign agenda that was heavy on bread-and-butter populism and light on racial justice was a perfect match for the district.

Jacky Rosen ran a very different race in the very different state of Nevada, reassembling the coalition of Latinos and white college-educated professionals that elected Catherine Cortez-Masto two years ago and that has now put this swingy state under total Democratic control.

Lucy McBath rallied a very different coalition, likely the coalition of Democrats’ long-term future, in a diverse, largely upscale district in the favored quarter suburbs of Atlanta, while Jon Tester of Montana and Sherrod Brown of Ohio gutted out wins in red states based on old-school labor liberalism.

The challenge in a presidential race is that you only get to run one candidate in a varied country.

Trump has the same challenge. But his advantage is that while his base is not a majority of the country, it is very homogeneous. Almost 90 percent of Trump voters were white, and more than 70 percent had no college degree. That means some very basic appeals to white working-class identity politics plus the promise of anti-abortion judges for college-educated evangelicals hold the base together.


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Clinton’s coalition, by contrast, was about one-third white professionals and about one-third working-class minorities (themselves split between black and Latino voters). About a quarter were working-class whites, joined by a smaller, but influential, group of college-educated nonwhites.

Holding this group together is objectively difficult. Golden’s biography, personality, and platform that worked in Maine probably wouldn’t appeal that strongly to McBath’s constituents in Nevada, and McBath would struggle to appeal to Golden’s constituents. The Trump voters who still like Trump aren’t a majority, but to assemble a majority, you do need to rope them all together, and that’s tough.

But tough doesn’t mean impossible.


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Charisma — the X-factor that put JFK, Bill Clinton, and Barack Obama in the White House, powered Beto O’Rourke to an unprecedented performance for a Texas Democrat, and made an instant superstar of Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez this summer in New York — is a traditional part of the formula. But so is fear. Clinton was handicapped in 2016 not only by some of her own shortcomings as a candidate but by the basic reality that everyone thought she would win, so nobody felt like being a cheap date.

By 2018, everyone knew better. And if they feel the same in 2020, Trump is doomed.


 

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