revelette3
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 08:42 am
@Olivier5,
You know you guys invite people to burst your Sander's bubble you all got going on. In 2016, Sanders was able to draw huge crowds, far outside the crowds Hillary was able to get and more in comparison to Trump's at the time. However, crowds do not necessarily translate into votes. Moreover, while Sander's can still draw crowds in this election cycle, so far, his crowd size has been about the same as Warren's as well if you consider that a metric to measure the electorate wave of support.

If you consider poll numbers a better metric to use, his poll numbers are behind both Biden's and Warren's and has been for long enough to know so far he is not matching up to his success he enjoyed in 2016.

Warren has always, since I have heard of her anyway, been a liberal with liberal ideas. She was influenced by Bernie Sander's Medicare for All plan. Perhaps it is pragmatic for her as it seems to be a litmus test for all democrat candidates. Whatever way it is, she has finally released her plan as to how to pay for it. Like most of these plans, she uses a lot of assumptions.

My point is simply that I don't want to talk bad about Sander's. But when ya'll keep exaggerating about him, it sort of begs a response.

I will concede and even say it was and is a good thing about Bernie Sander's influence on democrats in both the house and senate after he lost the 2016 democrat primary. He has and is still a good influence at keeping the party from being able to stray too far to the right. He was also able to change some things by his influence (I imagine Edgar is more able to describe) in the DNC. Which has all been good.
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 08:56 am
@revelette3,
I realize it may come across as hero worship but to me, it's the truth that Bernie is exceptional in many ways. Why would you or anyone else resent such an opinion and even try to debunk it? Beats me. Are there people out there who actually think that their preferred candidate is entirely ordinary and banal, and brings nothing new to the fore, and that's precisely why they chose him???
revelette3
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 09:05 am
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Elizabeth Warren Shouldn’t Be the Only One With a Plan

All the Democratic candidates need to come clean about their health care proposals and what they will do for Americans in need.

Laying the table for the next Democratic debate, Elizabeth Warren has issued a plan that explains how she would fund what she calls Medicare for All. She had studiously avoided saying whether it would raise taxes for the middle class, and in her proposal, she says (repeatedly) it will not.

It will instead be financed by a mix of wealth taxes, employer transfers of money they currently spend on health care and reductions of the many inefficiencies in our current byzantine system — among other initiatives.
But now all the candidates need to tell us more of those details about their health care strategies. It’s time for the candidates to stop talking slogans and start talking sense — or dollars and cents — so that voters can know what they mean and choose among them.

Medicare for All, Medicare for All Who Want It, a public option, improving the Affordable Care Act — those are 30,000-foot concepts that, depending on the details, could work (or not) and be popular (or not).

The candidates (including Ms. Warren) also need to say more about what they’ll do right now: In one poll, 40 percent of Americans said they had skipped a recommended test or treatment, and 32 percent said they had skipped a medicine, because of cost.

Supporters of Medicare for All want to tie their future to the popularity of the Medicare program. But Ms. Warren (and Bernie Sanders) are offering up Americans a supercharged version of the current government insurance for those over 65.

It promises to eliminate co-payments for prescription drugs. (Under current Medicare, many patients contribute thousands of dollars annually.) It includes dental and long-term care — a huge expense that is conspicuously missing from current Medicare.

That ambition would make a health care plan vastly more expensive. The national health systems of Britain and Canada, both single payer systems like the Medicare for All proposal, do not offer comprehensive long-term care coverage. Canada’s doesn’t include coverage for prescription drugs out of the hospital.

Is the financing Ms. Warren proposes going to be adequate to support the expanded goals? Economists disagree.

But in releasing her proposal, she has thrown down the gauntlet before the other candidates — who support Medicare for All Who Want It or some other type of public option — to be a whole lot clearer about what they mean.

Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Pete Buttigieg, et al: Does your public option — a government insurance policy that anyone may buy — resemble Mr. Sanders’s enhanced Medicare, or current Medicare or Medicaid, which is far more bare bones?

Voters need to know.

There’s another obvious reason the candidates have been so close lipped on specifics: To calculate how to pay for any of the plans, the candidates have to say how they intend to bring down prices — for hospital stays, drugs, procedures, devices, doctors’ visits, surgeries. Americans often pay two to 10 times what patients pay for these items in other developed countries.

Those prices will have to come down to make any plan viable without breaking the bank. To really assess any plan, we’ll need that kind of information.

Ms. Warren has courageously stepped into that fraught territory, with numbers that have very likely sent shock waves through the health care industry.

For example, to make her financing proposal work, she suggests paying most hospitals on average 110 percent of current Medicare rates. She suggests Americans should pay no more for drugs than 110 percent of the average international market price. That may be eminently reasonable, but is it achievable?

When Montana negotiated rates directly with hospitals for its state employees, it settled on a deal in which the state agreed to pay an average of 234 percent of Medicare rates. And it still saved money.

Setting lower prices is going to bring out strong opposition. Remember, patient (or taxpayer) savings mean loss of income for one of America’s most profitable industries, whose lobbyists spent more than half a billion dollars last year and which is flush with dark money to distribute in Congress.

To get the A.C.A. passed, President Barack Obama gave up on a number of price-lowering ideas to get buy-in from the health care industry and its friends in Congress. These included jettisoning the idea of a public option and allowing Medicare to negotiate drug prices.

The Republicans — whose “plans” have been largely proclamations of better, cheaper health care without any strategy — will be quick to label any of the Democratic plans as a government takeover of health care, or socialism.

Remember, patient (or taxpayer) savings mean loss of income for the United States’ most robust sector in the post-recession economy. In many post-manufacturing cities like Pittsburgh and Cleveland, a single hospital system is the biggest employer. In Boston, hospitals and hospital corporations make up the top six employers. Minnesota and Massachusetts have done well with drug and device manufacturing. And let’s not start on insurers, whose lucrative health business would largely disappear.

Any plan to rein in the United States’ bloated $3.5 trillion health care system will be slow going, requiring not just a footnoted blueprint but also the taming of many opposing forces. It took years for Canada to move from a market-based system to government run health. It endured lengthy debates and doctors’ strikes.

Ms. Warren calls her proposal a “long-term plan.” But voters want to know how we get from here to anywhere else. In polls, their top health care issue is affordability — emphasis on now.

They need concrete proposals as well as long-term vision. In the next debate, how about talking about H.R. 3, a bill in Congress to curb prescription drug prices? That plan would allow the health and human services secretary to negotiate a maximum price that could be charged to
Medicare for insulin and some of the most expensive medicines in the United States, based on the prices paid for those drugs in other countries.

Days before the last Democratic debate, the Congressional Budget Office said it would save $345 billion over a six-year period (2023-29).

If the bill were to move to the Senate, how would the front-runners vote? What do they have to say about that?


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/04/opinion/warren-medicare-for-all.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage

I bolded the most important point for me as a voter when I think about all these plans (or non plans as the case is for republicans.)
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revelette3
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 09:24 am
@Olivier5,
No, most of the time, unfortunately, people seem to vote on personalities.

I've just never thought Bernie Sander's was practical on how much he wants to make free for everyone.

I was wrong about thinking Sanders was unable to compromise, as was pointed by hightor, he might not have meant to make the point I came away with. I would need to study up more on the McCain/Sander Veterans thing hightor talked about it. But the very fact he worked with a republican meant that there must have been some compromising on his part. I would wonder if that would translate into his way of governing the country. If I thought so, it would change my way of thinking about him.

I still think he tends to think the government should pay for everything in life. I mean people don't have to be so extreme, one way or another. We do not need to have free colleges for everyone. There are lot of cheaper alternatives in ensuring those that need a leg up to get a good paying job, get it. Also, a free community two year college for folks with low income would be good. Expanding who qualifies for grants for four year colleges and beyond would also be good. I would hope though, that some kind of reform there would be thought of. It seems an awful lot of people go to college never really knowing what kind of job and/or career they want at the end of it.

What I am getting at, I just don't agree with all that Sander's advocates for though I agree with quite a bit of it. And no that does not make me a neoliberal whatever that means, and no, I don't want it explained to me again. It just means, I guess, I am more in favor a efficient liberal policy agenda.

edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 10:51 am

Viva AOC
1 hr ·
Last February I was working as a waitress in downtown Manhattan. I worked shoulder to shoulder with undocumented workers who often worked harder and hardest for the least amount of money.

I didn't have health care. I wasn't being paid a living wage. And I didn't think that I deserved any of those things because that is the script that we tell working people here and all over this country.

It wasn't until I heard of Bernie Sanders that I began to question and assert and recognize my inherent value as a human being that deserves healthcare, housing, education, and a living wage.

Now I am in Congress — and I'm proud to say that the only reason that I had any hope in launching a long shot campaign for Congress is because Bernie Sanders proved that you can run a grassroots campaign and win in an America where we almost thought it was impossible.

Last month, I stood with more than 25,000 people in Queens, New York City, where I endorsed Bernie Sanders for president.
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Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 12:43 pm
@revelette3,
Quote:
I've just never thought Bernie Sander's was practical on how much he wants to make free for everyone.

Basic health care and education, that's something but not that much. Many poorer countries can afford it so I don't see why you couldn't. Now, you have a point when stressing that it may lead to glutting colleges around the nation with non-motivated students, or that M4A could end up glutting health service providers for the same reason: a free good makes for an easy sell. But there will be plenty of time to think about that after the election, if Warren or Sanders get elected. For the time being, the problem at hand is a different one. It is to get someone elected other than Trump, and then move the needle to the left in the senate.

In order to do that, you need to promisse something to the voters, be clear on your messaging, indicate what you want to do and how you want to pay for it in general terms, but not necessarily get all wonky and bogged down in details that you can't predict anyway.

What would you want your candidate to promisse to the voters, then, other than "I'm not Trump"?
hightor
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 01:01 pm
@Olivier5,
Quote:
Many poorer countries can afford it so I don't see why you couldn't.

They aren't using 55% of their GDP to fund the military.
Quote:
In order to do that, you need to promisse something to the voters, be clear on your messaging, indicate what you want to do and how you want to pay for it in general terms, but not necessarily get all wonky and bogged down in details that you can't predict anyway.

But why promise more than you can be reasonably expected to achieve?
Olivier5
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 01:16 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
why promise more than you can be reasonably expected to achieve?

To get elected, and then do some of what you promissed to do.

I know it's complicated. But whether you plead your case to voters, or to a banker who can invest in your business, or to a judge in a courtroom, or to a love interest -- it seems you always have to exagerate a bit for good effect. Why? Because everybody else does it, and everybody knows it and expects it to happen.

If you're the only seller on a market who's understating his case, if you try to sell anything by just saying what you can certainly prove, then you won't sell anything, because prospective buyers will assume that you do still overstate the quality of your product, and thus it must be crap.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Mon 4 Nov, 2019 03:38 pm
some of the national press wants you to think Bernie doesn't even exist
Nov 4
Public post


Bern Notice is a production of the Bernie 2020 campaign. Please forward this on to your friends and tell them to subscribe. The views expressed here are solely of the bylined author.

In the last week, a wave of polls has emerged showing a genuine, full-on Bernie surge — but you might not know that if you tuned into cable TV or read the headlines from the national press corps. In fact, you might not even know Bernie is running for president.

As Bernie gains big momentum heading into the final 100 days until the Iowa caucuses, we see that the divide between The Actual Polls and The Media’s Manufactured Narrative is getting wider. In fact, the situation has gotten so obvious and laughable that The Onion decided to call it out and lampoon it with this headline:


THE ACTUAL POLLS: "Sanders has surged since he returned to the campaign trail"
Before we review The Media’s Manufactured Narrative, let’s first take a look at some key polling data from the last week that proves what The Hill had the guts to accurately report: Bernie “has surged in the polls since he returned to the campaign trail.”

•BERNIE LEADS IN NEW HAMPSHIRE: The new CNN New Hampshire poll shows Bernie leading the field in the first-in-the-nation primary state. That includes big leads among self-described conservative Democrats, independents, and Democratic voters who did not vote in 2016. The poll also shows Bernie is seen as the most likable candidate in the field.

• BERNIE IS SURGING IN IOWA: The New York Times’ new Iowa poll shows Bernie in a statistical tie for second place. That poll shows Bernie’s support is the most robust: 55% of his Iowa supporters say their minds are made up — by far the highest percentage of any candidate.

• BERNIE IS SURGING IN MICHIGAN: Emerson’s new Michigan poll shows Bernie gaining 5 points since March, and now in a strong second-place position behind Biden, who plummeted 10 points in the same time period.

• BERNIE IS THE ONLY CANDIDATE BEATING TRUMP IN 3 KEY STATES: The New York Times’ polling data shows Bernie is the only candidate beating Trump in the three previously Democratic states — Pennsylvania, Wisconsin and Michigan — that delivered Trump the 2016 election.

• BERNIE SHOWS STRONG SIGNS IN NATIONAL POLLS: The new ABC/WashPost national poll shows Bernie in a statistical tie for second place, and shows that the largest segment of voters see him as “the most honest and trustworthy” candidate as well as the candidate who “best understands the problems of people like you.” The NBC/WSJ national poll shows Bernie gaining 5 points since September — the largest gain of any candidate.

THE MEDIA’S MANUFACTURED NARRATIVE: Misreported polls and the Bernie Blackout
Despite all this data, many in the national press corps continued to both inaccurately report the polling results — and also pretend Bernie doesn’t exist.

Misreported Polls

In a report about its own poll showing Bernie in first place in New Hampshire, CNN put an inaccurate graphic up showing Bernie in second place.

In a story on the Iowa poll showing Bernie in second place, CNN wrongly reported that Bernie was in third place.

In promoting a story about its own Iowa poll showing Bernie ahead of Pete Buttigieg, the New York Times insisted Buttigieg has “eclipsed” Bernie.

Bernie Blackout

The Intercept’s Ryan Grim reported that “CNN has five articles up about its new NH poll that shows Sanders in front, yet none of the five say that in the headline.”

In a headline about its own poll showing Bernie in a statistical tie for second place, the Washington Post didn’t mention Bernie and instead touted Pete Buttigieg’s “rise” — even though Buttigieg has less than half the support of Bernie and was a distant 4th place in their own poll.

In promoting its Iowa poll showing Bernie in second place, the New York Times blasted out a news alert mentioning every top-tier candidate — except for Bernie.

In its report about the Iowa poll showing Bernie in a close second place, CNN’s chyron was “Iowa Poll: Biden & Buttigieg Within Striking Distance of Warren.”

Bern after reading,

Sirota



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hightor
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 03:05 pm
Wake Up, Democrats

You won’t beat Trump by taking unpopular positions.

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Maybe this is the wake-up call that Democrats need.

My old colleagues at The Upshot published a poll yesterday that rightly terrified a lot of Democrats (as well as Republicans and independents who believe President Trump is damaging the country). The poll showed Trump with a good chance to win re-election, given his standing in swing states like Wisconsin, Pennsylvania and Florida.

This was the sentence, by Nate Cohn, that stood out to me: “Nearly two-thirds of the Trump voters who said they voted for Democratic congressional candidates in 2018 say that they’ll back the president” in hypothetical match-ups against Joe Biden, Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

Democrats won in 2018 by running a smartly populist campaign, focused on reducing health care costs and helping ordinary families. The candidates avoided supporting progressive policy dreams that are obviously unpopular, like mandatory Medicare and border decriminalization.

The 2020 presidential candidates are making a grave mistake by ignoring the lessons of 2018. I’m not saying they should run to the mythical center and support widespread deregulation or corporate tax cuts (which are also unpopular). They can still support all kinds of ambitious progressive ideas — a wealth tax, universal Medicare buy-in and more — without running afoul of popular opinion. They can even decide that there are a couple of issues on which they are going to fly in the face of public opinion.

But if they’re going to do that, they also need to signal in other ways that they care about winning the votes of people who don’t consider themselves very liberal. Democrats, in short, need to start treating the 2020 campaign with the urgency it deserves, because a second Trump term would be terrible for the country.
(...)

nyt/leonhardt

Links available on the website.

Quote:
Jonathan Chait, New York magazine: “The poll contains substantial evidence that Trump’s party lost the midterms for the hoary yet true reason that Republicans took unpopular positions, especially on health care, and ceded the center. Rather than learn the lesson, Democrats instead appear intent on ceding it right back to them.”


Why do I have the feeling that we're witnessing a disaster in slow motion?

revelette3
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 04:05 pm
@hightor,
I just read that piece and then clicked on one of links. It's the Medicare For All details which is the clinker.

Quote:
But I think this particular plan is an unforced error. It comes with huge political vulnerabilities — and a less problematic, but still bold, alternative exists: A vastly expanded version of Medicare that allows people to buy in voluntarily. That plan could also be called Medicare for All. And if it proved to be as popular as Democrats expect, advocating for the mandatory version would become much easier. Until then, as Nyhan says, the mandatory approach “splits Ds and unites Rs. That’s the opposite of smart politics.”


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/01/30/opinion/medicare-kamala-harris-democrats-2020.html
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 05:36 pm
https://consortiumnews.com/2019/11/04/its-the-dnc-stupid-democratic-party-not-russia-has-delegitimized-the-democratic-process/

It’s the DNC, Stupid: Democratic Party, Not Russia, Has Delegitimized the Democratic Process
November 4, 2019 • 42 Comments

With the U.S. presidential cycle gearing up, Elizabeth Vos takes stock of lessons from 2016.

By Elizabeth Vos
Special to Consortium News

Establishment Democrats and those who amplify them continue to project blame for the public’s doubt in the U.S. election process onto outside influence, despite the clear history of the party’s subversion of election integrity. The total inability of the Democratic Party establishment’s willingness to address even one of these critical failures does not give reason to hope that the nomination process in 2020 will be any less pre-ordained.

The Democratic Party’s bias against Sen. Bernie Sanders during the 2016 presidential nomination, followed by the DNC defense counsel doubling down on its right to rig the race during the fraud lawsuit brought against the DNC, as well as the irregularities in the races between former DNC Chairwoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz and Tim Canova, indicate a fatal breakdown of the U.S. democratic process spearheaded by the Democratic Party establishment. Influences transcending the DNC add to concerns regarding the integrity of the democratic process that have nothing to do with Russia, but which will also likely impact outcomes in 2020.

The content of the DNC and Podesta emails published by WikiLeaks demonstrated that the DNC acted in favor of Hillary Clinton in the lead up to the 2016 Democratic primary. The emails also revealed corporate media reporters acting as surrogates of the DNC and its pro-Clinton agenda, going so far as to promote Donald Trump during the GOP primary process as a preferred “pied-piper candidate.” One cannot assume that similar evidence will be presented to the public in 2020, making it more important than ever to take stock of the unique lessons handed down to us by the 2016 race.

Social Media Meddling

Election meddling via social media did take place in 2016, though in a different guise and for a different cause from that which are best remembered. Twitter would eventually admit to actively suppressing hashtags referencing the DNC and Podesta emails in the run-up to the 2016 presidential election. Additional reports indicated that tech giant Google also showed measurable “pro-Hillary Clinton bias” in search results during 2016, resulting in the alleged swaying of between 2 and 10 millions voters in favor of Clinton.

On the Republican side, a recent episode of CNLive! featured discussion of the Cambridge Analytica scandal, in which undecided voters were micro-targeted with tailored advertising narrowed with the combined use of big data and artificial intelligence known collectively as “dark strategy.” CNLive! Executive Producer Cathy Vogan noted that SCL, Cambridge Analytica’s parent company, provides data, analytics and strategy to governments and military organizations “worldwide,” specializing in behavior modification. Though Cambridge Analytica shut down in 2018, related companies remain.

The Clinton camp was hardly absent from social media during the 2016 race. The barely-legal activities of Clintonite David Brock were previously reported by this author to have included $2 million in funding for the creation of an online “troll army” under the name Shareblue. The LA Times described the project as meant to “to appear to be coming organically from people and their social media networks in a groundswell of activism, when in fact it is highly paid and highly tactical.” In other words, the effort attempted to create a false sense of consensus in support for the Clinton campaign.

In terms of interference in the actual election process, the New York City Board of Elections was shown to have purged over one hundred thousand Democratic voters in Brooklyn from the rolls before the 2016 primary, a move that the Department of Justice found broke federal law. Despite this, no prosecution for the breach was ever attempted.

Though the purge was not explicitly found to have benefitted Clinton, the admission falls in line with allegations across the country that the Democratic primary was interfered with to the benefit of the former secretary of state. These claims were further bolstered by reports indicating that voting results from the 2016 Democratic primary showed evidence of fraud.

DNC Fraud Lawsuit

“Bernie or Bust” protesters at the Wells Fargo Center during Democrats’ roll call vote to nominate Hillary Clinton. (Becker1999, CC BY 2.0, Wikimedia Commons)

The proceedings of the DNC fraud lawsuit provide the most damning evidence of the failure of the U.S. election process, especially within the Democratic Party. DNC defense lawyers argued in open court for the party’s right to appoint candidates at its own discretion, while simultaneously denying any “fiduciary duty” to represent the voters who donated to the Democratic Party under the impression that the DNC would act impartially towards the candidates involved.

In 2017, the Observer reported that the DNC’s defense counsel argued against claims that the party defrauded Sanders’ supporters by favoring Clinton, reasoning that Sanders’ supporters knew the process was rigged. Again: instead of arguing that the primary was neutral and unbiased in accordance with its charter, the DNC’s lawyers argued that it was the party’s right to select candidates.

The Observer noted the sentiments of Jared Beck, the attorney representing the plaintiffs of the lawsuit:

…“People paid money in reliance on the understanding that the primary elections for the Democratic nominee —nominating process in 2016 were fair and impartial, and that’s not just a bedrock assumption that we would assume just by virtue of the fact that we live in a democracy, and we assume that our elections are run in a fair and impartial manner. But that’s what the Democratic National Committee’s own charter says. It says it in black and white.”

The DNC defense counsel’s argument throughout the course of the DNC fraud lawsuit doubled down repeatedly in defense of the party’s right to favor one candidate over another, at one point actually claiming that such favoritism was protected by the First Amendment. The DNC’s lawyers wrote:

“To recognize any of the causes of action that Plaintiffs allege would run directly contrary to long-standing Supreme Court precedent recognizing the central and critical First Amendment rights enjoyed by political parties, especially when it comes to selecting the party’s nominee for public office.” [Emphasis added]

The DNC’s shameless defense of its own rigging disemboweled the most fundamental organs of the U.S. body politic. This no indication that the DNC will not resort to the same tactics in the 2020 primary race,

Tim Canova’s Allegations

If Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s role as disgraced chairwoman of the DNC and her forced 2016 resignation wasn’t enough, serious interference was also alleged in the wake of two contests between Wasserman Schultz and professor Tim Canova in Florida’s 23rd congressional district. Canova and Wasserman Schultz first faced off in a 2016 Democratic primary race, followed by a 2018 general congressional election in which Canova ran as an independent.

Debacles followed both contests, including improper vote counts, illegal ballot destruction, improper transportation of ballots, and generally shameless displays of cronyism. After the controversial results of the initial primary race against Wasserman Schultz, Canova sought to have ballots checked for irregularities, as the Sun-Sentinel reported at the time:

“[Canova] sought to look at the paper ballots in March 2017 and took Elections Supervisor Brenda Snipes to court three months later when her office hadn’t fulfilled his request. Snipes approved the destruction of the ballots in September, signing a certification that said no court cases involving the ballots were pending.”

Ultimately, Canova was granted a summary judgment against Snipes, finding that she had committed what amounted to multiple felonies. Nonetheless, Snipes was not prosecuted and remained elections supervisor through to the 2018 midterms.

Republicans appear no more motivated to protect voting integrity than the Democrats, with The Nation reporting that the GOP-controlled Senate blocked a bill this week that would have “mandated paper-ballot backups in case of election machine malfunctions.”

Study of Corporate Power

A 2014 study published by Princeton University found that corporate power had usurped the voting rights of the public: “Economic elites and organized groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on U.S. government policy, while average citizens and mass-based interest groups have little or no independent influence.”

In reviewing this sordid history, we see that the Democratic Party establishment has done everything in its power to disrespect voters and outright overrule them in the democratic primary process, defending their right to do so in the DNC fraud lawsuit. We’ve noted that interests transcending the DNC also represent escalating threats to election integrity as demonstrated in 2016.

Despite this, establishment Democrats and those who echo their views in the legacy press continue to deflect from their own wrongdoing and real threats to the election process by suggesting that mere discussion of it represents a campaign by Russia to attempt to malign the perceptionof the legitimacy of the U.S. democratic process.

Hillary Clinton’s recent comments to the effect that Congresswoman Tulsi Gabbard is being “groomed” by Russia, and that the former Green Party Presidential candidate Dr. Jill Stein is a “Russian asset”, were soon echoed by DNC-friendly pundits. These sentiments externalize what Gabbard called the “rot” in the Democratic party outward onto domestic critics and a nation across the planet.

Newsweek provided a particularly glaring example of this phenomenon in a recent op-ed penned by columnist Naveed Jamali, a former FBI double agent whose book capitalizes on Russiagate. In an op-ed titled: “Hillary Clinton Is Right. Tulsi Gabbard Is A Perfect Russian Asset – And Would Be A Perfect Republican Agent,” Jamali argued:

“Moscow will use its skillful propaganda machine to prop up Gabbard and use her as a tool to delegitimize the democratic process.” [Emphasis added]

Jamali surmises that Russia intends to “attack” our democracy by undermining the domestic perception of its legitimacy. This thesis is repeated later in the piece when Jamali opines: “They want to see a retreat of American influence. What better way to accomplish that than to attack our democracy by casting doubt on the legitimacy of our elections.” [Emphasis added]

The only thing worth protecting, according to Jamali and those who amplify his work (including former Clinton aide and establishment Democrat Neera Tanden), is the perception of the democratic process, not the actual functioning vitality of it. Such deflective tactics ensure that Russia will continue to be used as a convenient international pretext for silencing domestic dissent as we move into 2020.

Given all this, how can one expect the outcome of a 2020 Democratic Primary — or even the general election – to be any fairer or transparent than 2016?

Elizabeth Vos is a freelance reporter, co-host of CN Live! and regular contributor to Consortium News.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 06:06 pm
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 06:21 pm
NOVEMBER 5, 2019
Los Angeles City Council Votes to Support Medicare for All, Urges Congress to Act
Statement of Melinda St. Louis, Director, Public Citizen’s Medicare for All Campaign

Note: Today, the Los Angeles City Council passed a resolution in support of Medicare for All. With a city population of almost four million, it is the second-most populous city in the U.S. Before the vote, activists and representatives of Los Angeles neighborhood councils rallied in front of Los Angeles City Hall in support of Medicare for All. Additionally, more than 30 people spoke in favor of the resolution before the council and shared powerful personal stories. Public Citizen is part of a coalition urging citizens to press their local governments to pass similar resolutions.

We applaud the Los Angeles City Council for joining the growing movement of city and county councils who are demanding Medicare for All because they have a front-row seat to the devastation wrought by our inequitable and cruel for-profit health care system.

Despite gains made since the Affordable Care Act, more than 437,000 Los Angeles residents still lacked health insurance in 2018. Cities are tired of watching as their residents face financial ruin or early death if they get sick. Tampa, Detroit, Seattle, Chicago’s Cook County and now Los Angeles are among the local jurisdictions that are taking a stand for Medicare for All. This is what a movement looks like.

Today’s successful resolution shows just how change happens; with grassroots efforts from activists and regular Americans educating their neighbors in their communities and demanding action from their elected officials from the ground up.

Today’s resolution sends a powerful message to Congress that the people of Los Angeles demand that health care be treated as a right, not a privilege. We hope that the members of Congress representing districts in Los Angeles who have not yet co-sponsored Medicare for All legislation – including U.S. Rep. Tony Cardenas (D-Calif.), who sits on a key committee – will heed the call that it’s time to get on board and fight for guaranteed health care for all.
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BillW
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 06:32 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Why do I have the feeling that we're witnessing a disaster in slow motion?


Primary to the left return to the center for the General. With that said, I have to agree with you in regards to some candidates.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 06:37 pm
@BillW,


Quote:
Primary to the left return to the center for the General.

Easier to say lie.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 08:08 pm
I don't like to post the same video on two threads but I am doing it with this one.
Lash
 
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Reply Tue 5 Nov, 2019 08:38 pm
@edgarblythe,
I think this guy may have a spot in a Bernie administration. I’m getting excited. The sweep of Dems tonight bodes well for us.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2019 03:37 am
There is a ‘Green New Deal’-type program gathering strength in the UK. I giggled at the similar people’s movement and their similar Bernie Sanders.

Tonight, in response to their Green movement, I welcomed this tweet:

Jeremy Corbyn
@jeremycorbyn
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16h
The revolution is coming.

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It damn sure is. Worldwide.
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Lash
 
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Reply Wed 6 Nov, 2019 04:42 am
Thank you, millennials.
These young people just took the reins of this country.

What to expect? Control of the D party by progressives—utter repudiation of dinosaur Republicans—Centrists migrating to some new party, becoming the new Republicans.

If and when this happens, I’ll be calling it the Democratic Party.🌎👊🏽🌹🎉
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Resist the RESISTANCE
@natbabou
I live in Northern Virginia , Fairfax county, the wealthiest county in the US. Progressive dems cleaned out the board last night. Why? Because turn out was high, young people came out in force. Complete and utter collapse of the Virginia’s Republican Party.
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