@edgarblythe,
The republican supreme court will reelect trump for a second term even if he loses the election like they did for bush. Voting rights just went out the window with the court agreeing with all the republican voting maps restricting voters.
@RABEL222,
I wish I could argue with you. But you well may be right.
If there is an upside to Kavanaugh being put on the Supreme Court it will be to wake up the idiotic-thinking Stein voters to recognize how poorly thought out their “strategy” of voting for a third party during these political times.
I fight my own battles, which is why I have reported your post for the name-calling. Saying things you don't like is not a violation of the rules; name-calling is.
I took this of off Facebook. I don't even know the responders.
David Holt
David Holt We need to all accept that America is OK with this. All this talk about voting in 4 weeks is meaningless. . it's the polite and non-risky behavior of people who want to virtue signal their outrage but not act on it. Myself included. When the basic rule of law and conventions of reasonable political behavior go out the window, it is a delusion to think that a conventional political response (voting Team Blue the next time around) will actually deliver a restitution of this country. It's a fiction that those whose lives aren't miserable can indulge in, politely, without any risk.
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Janet Hueners
Janet Hueners So what is the alternative?
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David Holt
David Holt The alternative is acting outside the rules defined by your opponent. That's not something I'm personally going to do, but look. . .white supremacists marched. . ARMED. . through Charlottesville, they deviated from their permit-allotted protest zones, they beat up people of color, they had weapons stashed all over the city, and one of them drove a car through the protesters. They weren't even condemned for it.
No consequences.
Meanwhile the left talks about having sit-ins and peaceful protests and how 'we'll just vote more forcefully next time.' I have had to come to the personal realization that I shouldn't even be upset because I'm not actually going to do anything. That's honesty and integrity.
The alternative is to actually fight back. . .literally. . .fight back. . this country won't do it. We need to stop pretending that we will.
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David Holt
David Holt As long as the left refuses to even be impolite, there's no point in having a conversation even.
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(I do knw this person) Do what we are doing in Canada. First vote out conservatives, then start throwing votes to other parties.
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John F. Michalski For most of America's history the Supreme Court was a horrible, regressive force in our national life, concerned only with protecting wealth and privilege. So, really, it's just reverting to form.
Justin Borgen Especially when Democrats circumvent procedure by not raising Dr. Ford’s allegations in closed session, as Dr. Ford herself asked for. Instead, the Democratson the committee waited TWO MONTHS until the day of the vote to drop Dr Ford’s story, seemingly to delay the vote. Then Democratic staffers recommend Dr. Ford retain politically-connected DC lawyers, who apparently left their client in the dark on the fact that the chairman of the judiciary committee offered to fly a team TO HER in California to record her testimony privately. And now the left is arguing that the Republicans are solely to blame for the erosion of the court as an institution? This sword cuts both ways, my friends.
“The court protects our rights, and the senate protects our courts.”
Ron Wing Wake up people, raise your left fist in protest. Vote democratic socialist - orginize unions. Our national history shows clearly protest and rising voices of oppressed in civil disobedience brings radical readjustment. Blood may be shed by the peaceful but the ugliness of the oppressor must be exposed.
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Clinton finds a way to defeat Andrew Gillum.
If I understand this correctly, the accusation against Hillary Clinton is that.. she will campaign for Gillum.
That's how she "Causes Cracks in the Gillum Coalition" and "finds a way to defeat Andrew Gillum". By campaigning for him.
I don't like Hillary Clinton, but that's ridiculous.
@nimh,
You understand why some Republicans wouldn’t want Trump to campaign for them.
Gillum enjoyed a grassroots upswell of progressives who are very wary of Hillary and cronies.
He will lose votes due to her campaigning but, I don’t know if he’ll lose enough to ...lose.
@coldjoint,
Haha. Right?! Whatta puss.
“This is Sgt Friday. Put me through to the Home Office!”
@Lash,
Lash wrote:Gillum enjoyed a grassroots upswell of progressives who are very wary of Hillary and cronies.
He will lose votes due to her campaigning but, I don’t know if he’ll lose enough to ...lose.
Gillum (whom I like) won a narrow, 3-point primary victory over the rather Hillary-like Gwen Graham. He got 518 thousand votes (Graham 473 thousand).
Gillum's haul was comparable with Bernie's in the 2016 presidential primary, when he got 569 thousand votes. But Bernie was walloped in that Florida primary. Hillary won it by a massive 64% to 33% margin. She got 1.1 million votes in the Democratic primary alone. And then went on to win 4.5 million Florida votes in the general election.
So I don't think the arithmetic points the way of your argument here.
In a state with lots of older Democratic-leaning voters, where Hillary got a million votes in the primary alone, and where almost half a million Democrats voted for Gwen Graham rather than Gillum, whatever number of progressives would refuse to vote for a Democratic candidate with a boldly progressive platform in an election against a far-right Tea Party Republican because (seriously?) Hillary Clinton made some campaign stops for him (!) is going to be (a) pretty small, period, and (b) a bunch smaller than the number of voters who actually quite like her.
From the Richard Nixon playbook.
The Return of "Billary" •
Bill and Hillary Clinton have announced they will tour the country with a series of live events during the final weeks of 2018 and into 2019. The tour, called "An Evening with the Clintons," is likely a publicity tool for Hillary to show her personal side, launch a new presidential campaign - and lose to Donald Trump again in 2020.
@edgarblythe,
I am not in favor of HC running for president in 2020. I don't think she'd win the nomination.
That being said, if she did run, I think that she'd beat Trump in 2020.
@edgarblythe,
I'm hoping it's just a straight out moneymaker. I don't understand how anyone could think she's a viable candidate, but you know me, I hate all the candidates who are much over 40.
