Progressives (Liberals)

Just like the young female Jewish law clerk who sat behind Brett Kavanaugh during his confirmation hearings?

You shouldn't believe everything you want to belive edgar

https://www.adl.org/education/references/hate-symbols/okay-hand-gesture



Trump has been making that gesture for years to emphasize a point, and not even to troll people like you.

You are being ridiculous.

"Five up, bro. ?"

Is it required that you adopt hip vernacular when you shift your political views from right to far left?

It depends not on who does it, but how they do it. I know the difference.

But Israel's existence isn't predicated on the oppression of "the Palestinian peoples." (There are more than one?)

You may not like it, but it is predicated on their belief that it is the Jewish homeland. There are probably quite a few Israeli's who believe that considering that they have been oppressed for thousands of years and in ways that make Palestinian complaints sound like the wailing of a child deprived of his candy, it's their due.

If it makes you feel better, think of it as Reparations for Jews.

Israel's existence is oppressive since it's predicated on the oppression of the Palestinian peoples.

That's one of the worst responses I have ever seen from you. We didn't drop off the turnip truck this morning.

I thought you said you had me on ignore, yet you always like to reply to my comments.

Ouch! Coming from you that hurts so much

I don't think you or Infrablue understand the concept of predicated

Israel's founding was not based on the oppression of anyone except perhaps themselves.

Whether or not Israel "oppresses" the Palestinian People(s) it was not and is not predicated upon such behavior.

Claiming it is, is simply a poorly disguised attempt to legitimize the denial of the right of Jews to a Jewish State.

Presumably, you both find Egypt repugnant and illegitimate since it is a Muslim State in which Coptic Christians and what few Jews may be lurking about are oppressed. (And of course, there are many other examples)

I could be wrong, but I believe you both favor reparations for African-Americans - If I am wrong, ignore what follows - The concept of reparations for African-Americans is that they are deserving of compensation because of oppression (slavery) none of them have directly experienced from a larger group who never directly engaged in the oppression.

Putting aside whether or not this makes sense if you support it then you should support the concept of a Jewish State.

Once you accept the concept of a Jewish State, if you wish to be intellectually consistent and honest you have to admit that it is the goal of the Palestinians to put an end to it...either by violence or demographics. Now you can say that the average Palestinian doesn't share that goal (you would be disingenuous, but you could say it) but it would really strain credulity for you to contend the Palestinian Governing Bodies (such as they are) do not.

You can't have it both ways.

You can't argue that your being against the Israeli government doesn't mean you are against Israelis and then contend that those who are against the Palestinian governing bodies are ipso facto against Palestinians.

You will...but you shouldn't, regardless of what truck you fell off of this morning.

I went back and checked your profile, you've only been here for 7 months or so. I don't remember announcing I have you on ignore, but I do mostly pass over your posts. I just find it hard to stay interested in piffle. Have a nice day.

Well, apparently spelling is not his forte. Makes me wonder how he came up with such a racist alternative.

More circular logic. The only oppression here is the fact that you've defined Israel's very existence as oppression.

"Why is that ALWAYS the thing people ask?"
http://able2know.org/topic/219685-1

His response is factual, straightforward, and moral. It's a pretty good response by my reckoning.

Five up and bro are about 30 years old.

Increasing anger at Israel’s cruelty to Palestinians has earned them a wide demographic of critics. It’s not a radical opinion.

Catch up!

You obviously don't know how Israel was formed and what has transpired in the interim. Your post reads like a travelog written by a travel company. Practically nothing you have asserted is factual.

LMAO that the thread is tagged as both corporatism and socialist democracy.

The contrast between the two are the focus of conversation.

It's pretty common knowledge. Why would you think anyone here does not know it?



I defy you to point out a single error in his posts.

No such cruelty. Shame on you for falsely accusing them of imaginary atrocities!



Most of society regards falsely accusing Jews of imaginary atrocities to be beyond the pale.

Not imaginary in spite of your persistent claims.

Shame on you for falsely accusing Jews of imaginary atrocities!