coldjoint
 
  3  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 11:51 am
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
None of that is true

It sure is, and you saying it is not when you never offer proof for anything is laughable.
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MontereyJack
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 02:16 pm
@coldjoint,
Obama saw more jobs created in his last two years thsn tru.mp did in his first two years. Not exactly O killing the job market. O bombed the **** out of isis in syria. Gop clongress wouldnt back him.
MontereyJack
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 02:28 pm
@coldjoint,
No O war on police atall
Camb cop roust of skip gates was stupid. And zimmerman killed an innocent kid. Stii racist cops on social media today
Os foreign polivcy stopped iran from unproved nuke pursuit which trump withdrew from. Thee 1.5. BN. Was irans money court ordered payback. As i said your claims are bogus and i see no cites from you for them and there are no credible ones anyway just far right spin.í
Baldimo
 
  3  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 03:16 pm
@MontereyJack,
Quote:
Obama saw more jobs created in his last two years thsn tru.mp did in his first two years.

That would be incorrect, Trump has seen more jobs created in his first 2 years than Obama did in his last 2 years. Obama's economy was stagnant and not moving.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckdevore/2019/02/01/manufacturers-added-6-times-more-jobs-under-trump-than-under-obamas-last-2-years/#2766b8d85635
Quote:
Since Pres. Trump took office in January 2017, employment in manufacturing has increased 3.7%. Over the same period during the last two years under Pres. Obama, manufacturing payrolls grew by only 0.6%.

The sluggish growth in manufacturing in the latter half of the Obama years led to President Obama remarking in June 2016 that manufacturing jobs “are just not going to come back.”

Weeks after Trump’s election—and in response to candidate Trump’s promise to bring back manufacturing jobs—New York Times columnist Paul Krugman, an economist, said, “Nothing policy can do will bring back those lost jobs. The service sector is the future of work; but nobody wants to hear it.”

Trump’s deregulatory and tax policies have confounded his critics and benefited the American worker.


Quote:
Not exactly O killing the job market. O bombed the **** out of isis in syria. Gop clongress wouldnt back him.

It was a stagnant job market and economy. Obama bombed the **** out of more countries than Bush did and yet you want to claim Trump is going to start a war?
Baldimo
 
  3  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 03:25 pm
@MontereyJack,
Look at you defending Obama's anti-police rhetoric

Quote:
No O war on police atall

Obama was anti-police from the start and continued to be anti-police for the rest of his terms.

Quote:
Camb cop roust of skip gates was stupid.

It was legit, the man was trying to break into his own house and didn't have ID on him to prove it was his house. Obama should have kept his mouth shut, instead we got a Beer Summit.

Quote:
And zimmerman killed an innocent kid.

Trayvon wasn't innocent, he was standing over him, trying to bash Zimmerman's head into the ground. Autopsy proved where the shots came from.


Ragman
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 04:07 pm
@Baldimo,
He was defending an attacker. Hadn’t he the right to defend himself?
coldjoint
 
  2  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 04:10 pm
@Ragman,

Quote:
Hadn’t he the right to defend himself?

Everyone does. Trayvon lost the fight.
RABEL222
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 05:33 pm
@coldjoint,
Stupid kid came to a gun fight with bare hands. Zimmerman was a Trumpian hero. Is he still in jail for the illegal shyt he pulled after he murdered Travon?
oralloy
 
  3  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 06:06 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
What they prefer is to NOT see their kids glow in the dark. The problem of necular waste hasent been solved.

Wrong. The alleged "long-lived waste" is fuel for sodium-cooled reactors.

The only reason it has to be disposed of is because leftists say it must be disposed of instead of being used to generate power in a sodium-cooled reactor.

The solution to this phony "problem" is to remove leftists from society (ship them all to Guantanamo maybe) and then start using sodium-cooled reactors to generate some of our electricity.
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oralloy
 
  4  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 06:07 pm
@Olivier5,
Olivier5 wrote:
The Fukushima melt down did scare people quite a lot. It's important to realize that there is nowadays among the general public a lack of trust in experts, including of course nuclear energy experts. You can resent that all you want but it's a fact of modern life. Post truthism and all this crap.

The new helium-cooled fast-neutron reactor designs (particularly the prismatic core variants) are meltdown proof. We'd be a lot safer if we transitioned over to such designs.

The one downside is that they produce a bit of long-lived waste. TRISO pellets are not easy to reprocess.
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oralloy
 
  3  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 06:09 pm
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
This design has proven safe and reliable in now widespread use for almost 50 years. Moreover the, now almost universal, use of concrete and steel containment buildings around them have proved to be fully able to contain radioactive materials - without any public exposure - even in the unlikely event of a complete reactor meltdown.

With the latest helium-cooled carbon-moderated designs there is zero danger of any meltdown at all.

I think I might prefer sodium-cooled reactors though, due to the lack of long-lived nuclear "waste".
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oralloy
 
  4  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 06:17 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
Medicare For All means instead of paying premiums, deductibles, co-pays, full price for uncovered services, and then having to fight with insurance companies when they inevitably try to deny claims, we go to the same doctors and hospitals like in the UK, only we walk in, are treated based in sound medical care instead of whether or not we can afford it—and for this, we pay s tax that is less than what we were paying before and we don’t have to fight insurance companies.

Medicare For All is different from the system that they have in the UK.

It is questionable whether the taxes to fund either system would be less than insurance premiums cost.

Also, both Medicare For All and a UK-style system are capable of denying sound medical care. Doing away with private insurance will not solve any problems in this respect.

There have even been cases where the UK medical system not only denied medical care, but actively blocked people from going to another country to receive treatment.

I would not like to see leftists in America be allowed to start denying people treatment and then forcing them to stay here to die instead of traveling to other countries for treatment.
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oralloy
 
  4  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 06:20 pm
@Lash,
Lash wrote:
You mention Venezuela almost every time you discuss Bernie’s policies.
I think you should expand your thinking on Social Democracies AND take a look at how OTHER people are living in the US.

Venezuela shows what leftists do when no one is able to stop them.

The leftists there are even running death squads to kill people who disagree with them now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-latin-america-48873500
coldjoint
 
  4  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 06:49 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
The leftists there are even running death squads to kill people who disagree with them now.

The Weathermen on the Sixties were prepared to kill 25 million US citizens if they attained power. Long time no see, welcome back.
oralloy
 
  4  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 06:54 pm
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Long time no see, welcome back.

Thanks.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  5  
Reply Tue 9 Jul, 2019 07:07 pm
@RABEL222,
RABEL222 wrote:
And crooked Trump and his crooked daddy git a pass because?

Because we do not actually know that any of the charges against Mr. Trump are even true. The Democrats have a history of fabricating imaginary charges against innocent people (Scooter Libby for example).

Because Bill Clinton did everything that Trump is accused of doing, and the Democrats gave him a pass.

Take your pick. Both reasons are equally valid.
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nimh
 
  0  
Reply Wed 10 Jul, 2019 06:09 am
@Baldimo,
Your quote specifically speaks of jobs *in manufacturing*. Not overall jobs. I don't know from the top of my head who of you is right, but this doesn't disprove MontereyJack's claim.
nimh
 
  1  
Reply Wed 10 Jul, 2019 06:16 am
@nimh,
Here's a fairly recent chart Google turned up about overall employment and unemployment under Obama and Trump. Looks like the economy was still in the throes of crisis in Obama's first months but it rapidly turned around, and growth has basically been steady under both presidents since 2011, with unemployment levelling out in 2019 (but at a low level). Doesn't by itself prima facie look like a good argument against either president.

https://ei.marketwatch.com/Multimedia/2019/03/08/Photos/MG/MW-HF321_payrol_20190308085223_MG.jpg?uuid=66922688-41a9-11e9-b036-ac162d7bc1f7
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  3  
Reply Wed 10 Jul, 2019 06:33 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
whole lotta white privilege going on here.

These false accusations of imaginary racism are really silly.
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oralloy
 
  3  
Reply Wed 10 Jul, 2019 06:34 am
@MontereyJack,
MontereyJack wrote:
white privilege blinders

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