neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 08:41 pm
@coldjoint,
A doctored meme isn't as funny as the real thing.

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coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 08:51 pm
@neptuneblue,
He will keep you laughing until early 2025.
neptuneblue
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 08:55 pm
@coldjoint,
Yes, you're right! It will be extremely amusing to see a $3K designer orange is not the new black jail jumpsuit. Can't wait!
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 09:41 pm
@neptuneblue,
Killary will see jail time first. She actually broke laws.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 10:09 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
...she actually broke laws.


List them
Name them (real, not Trump inspired imaginaries)
Give proof (list charges and where any prosecution would be occurring)


Yeah. As I thought, you can't because it didn't happen.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 10:18 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
Fmr Attorney General Lists All Laws Hillary Possibly Broke

https://www.weeklystandard.com/daniel-halper/fmr-attorney-general-lists-all-laws-hillary-possibly-broke
Quote:
Yes, Hillary Clinton broke the law

https://nypost.com/2015/09/27/yes-hillary-clinton-broke-the-law/

Quote:
Fact Check: Hillary Clinton, Those Emails And The Law

https://www.npr.org/sections/itsallpolitics/2015/04/02/396823014/fact-check-hillary-clinton-those-emails-and-the-law

Sturgis
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 10:31 pm
@coldjoint,
You're such a card!
The first listing clearly states "possibly broke". If there'd been any weight to it, she'd have been charges and tried by now.

Nobody takes the New York Post seriously.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 10:56 pm
@Sturgis,
Quote:
she'd have been charges and tried by now.

Not with the Deep State in control, their grip is slipping day by day. But they clearly gave her a pass. If you are smart enough to realize that you do not want equal justice and that is un-American. Democrats are clearly the anti-American party.
Sturgis
 
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Reply Thu 20 Jun, 2019 11:10 pm
@coldjoint,
If there'd been any smidgen of anything, it would have been shown by now. Your friends in the Republican rhetoric world had 2 solid years to get this done. It didn't happen and it won't. Why? Because although your pal DonDon keeps squawking "crooked Hillary" and "lock her up" there's nothing there.
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MontereyJack
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jun, 2019 02:15 am
@Sturgis,
Over 800 ex-DOJ prosecutors say trump committed ten felonies, so let's go after Clinton. GOP blind justice,
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jun, 2019 05:37 am
How about some actual progressive content?

Yesterday was a thrilling day for progressives. An old segregationist-whisperer got a slap back from some 2020 presidential candidates, but in a more elegant, profound space elsewhere, eloquent, sharp voices spoke out about America's original sin--and the impact on black Americans.

Here's a little bit: https://www.axios.com/ta-nehisi-coats-reparations-hearing-mitch-mcconnell-7e8f4b9e-67a5-4560-bcf4-20f0d1c62a67.html

Ta-Nehisi Coates' comments:

Yesterday, when asked about reparations, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell offered a familiar reply: America should not be held liable for something that happened 150 years ago, since none of us currently alive are responsible. This rebuttal proffers a strange theory of governance, that American accounts are somehow bound by the lifetime of its generations. But well into this century, the United States was still paying out pensions to the heirs of Civil War soldiers. We honor treaties that date back some 200 years, despite no one being alive who signed those treaties. Many of us would love to be taxed for the things we are solely and individually responsible for. But we are American citizens, and thus bound to a collective enterprise that extends beyond our individual and personal reach. It would seem ridiculous to dispute invocations of the Founders, or the Greatest Generation, on the basis of a lack of membership in either group. We recognize our lineage as a generational trust, as inheritance, and the real dilemma posed by reparations is just that: a dilemma of inheritance. It is impossible to imagine America without the inheritance of slavery
Excerpt:

Ta-Nehisi Coates rips into McConnell for slavery comments, says Biden "shouldn't be president"
At the first House hearing on reparations in 12 years, author Ta-Nehisi Coates sharply criticized Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell for claiming on Tuesday that "no one currently alive was responsible" for slavery, and that the country has tried to make amends through civil rights legislation and electing a black president.


https://www.axios.com/ta-nehisi-coats-reparations-hearing-mitch-mcconnell-7e8f4b9e-67a5-4560-bcf4-20f0d1c62a67.html
Excerpt:

Catch up quick: Also on Tuesday, Joe Biden received harsh criticism for nostalgically recollecting the "civil" relationships he had with segregationist senators in the 1970s and '80s. Coates condemned the 2020 candidate in an interview on Wednesday with Democracy Now, saying: "Joe Biden shouldn't be president ... The fact of the matter is Joe Biden owes his very presence in the race right now to the first black president Barack Obama."

Danny Glover made comments, as well.



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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jun, 2019 06:22 am
An inside view of Bernie's race

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-features/bernie-sanders-democratic-socialism-elizabeth-warren-election-2020-848074/

If it seems like Vermont Senator Bernie Sanders is fighting for his political life amid a series of negative articles, it might be because he always is. The Sanders campaign is grounded in a principle that an absence of controversy would be the real indication of trouble.

It’s not a cliché: Sanders is always, literally, embattled, among other things because his version of politics is a battle, a zero-sum clash of economic interests in particular. “The way he fights is unique,” says his campaign manager, Faiz Shakhir. “He goes to Walmart and confronts the CEO over wages. He goes and stands with striking McDonald’s workers directly.”

The latest brush-fire, a series of negative articles trumpeting a poll surge by Massachusetts Senator Elizabeth Warren as the latest indication of Bernie’s oft-predicted demise, is just par for the course.

Sanders this week gave a major address, explaining why he calls himself a “Democratic Socialist.” He did this in 2015, and after much discussion this spring it was decided he needed to do so again.

Speaking at George Washington University, Sanders described his campaign as a continuation of FDR’s legacy, specifically the so-called Second Bill of Rights, as enumerated in the 1944 State of the Union Address. He plans on releasing an “Economic Bill of Rights” that will essentially provide government guarantees for a living wage, affordable housing, health care and a complete education. Echoing a famous line by Roosevelt, he talked about his confrontations with corporate interests.

“They are unanimous in their hatred of me, and I welcome their hatred,” he said, to cheers.

Unlike the last election, when the policy difference between himself and opponent Hillary Clinton was so great it scarcely needed explaining, Sanders in 2019 is running in a much-altered Democratic Party environment. In part due to his own efforts in 2016, and in part due to a growing movement driven by the likes of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and others, he’s now chasing the nomination in a field full of candidates expressing varying degrees of support for policies once considered radical: Medicare for All, a Green New Deal, free college, even a guaranteed income.

This is an accomplishment on the one hand, but also a complication: How does Sanders stand out now in a political landscape that (policy-wise, anyway) has made wholesale moves in his direction since 2016?

In an odd way, Sanders defines his campaign by the negativity it attracts. Other campaigns that might talk the talk on issues like climate change can’t be taken seriously, Bernie Sanders tells me in a phone call from Washington, D.C., unless they “frontally confront the fossil fuel industry.” If you’re not “embattled,” you’re not real. In this vein he derides the “middle ground” platform of someone like current frontrunner Joe Biden, which Sanders says “antagonizes no one, stands up to no one, and changes nothing.”

Asked why he chose this week in particular to give an address on Democratic Socialism, Sanders says the motivation was “twofold.”

“The first is to try to move this country away from an austerity policy,” he says. “We must recognize that economic rights are human rights. People are entitled — and I underline the word entitled — to a decent job that pays a living wage. They’re entitled to health care. They’re entitled to a complete education, to affordable housing.”

He goes on to elucidate probably the biggest difference between himself and Warren.

“In the words of Roosevelt,” he says, “the Republic at the beginning was built around the guarantee of political rights. But he came to believe that true individual freedom can’t exist without economic security.

“It’s time to guarantee economic rights. [FDR] said this 80 years ago.”

Warren and Sanders have nearly identical critiques of how screwed up American capitalism has become in the global economy age. The main difference is that while Warren seems to want to fix the problem by re-invigorating those original political rights, Sanders wants to take what he calls the “next step” into guaranteeing economic security.

I ask him about the headlines of this week, and how he would best characterize the difference between himself and Warren, whom he describes as a “friend.” He answers by describing how he came to his decision to run.

“I thought long and hard about this,” he says. “My wife and I thought about it for months and months. We talked about it more than we ever talked about anything else. We’d be sure of one thing on Monday, then Tuesday it would be different.”

He pauses. “I reached the conclusion that I’m the strongest candidate to beat Donald Trump, but that wasn’t all. I wouldn’t just have to beat Trump — the goal would be to create a movement to fundamentally transform the country, so the future wouldn’t be threatened by later Trumps, either.”

Sanders then explains that the only kind of candidacy that could succeed now would be one like his own. “It won’t work,” he says, “unless you have the courage to take on the very powerful special interests that are entrenched and wield so much influence. If you want to fix the climate change problem, you can’t do it unless you frontally confront the fossil fuel industry. You want to rebuild the infrastructure? You have to take on the 1-percent, get them to pay their share.

“I believe from the bottom of my heart my approach is the only way,” Sanders says. “The middle of the road approach isn’t going to cut it.”

I asked him if he’s settled into a psychological strategy for dealing with the media negativity, which seems relentless. Specifically, did he ever think about taking the Trump approach, and embracing the negative media, turning it to his advantage?

He laughs, but only a little.

“It’s hard,” he says. “My views on the press are nothing like Trump’s. I don’t believe that the media is the enemy of the people. ‘They’re not terrible people, it’s not fake news — there are a lot of great reports in the New York Times, we use their work every day here on the campaign.

“But,” he says, “at the end of the day, the media work for huge multinational corporations. And as you know — you’re one of the few who does know — anyone with my agenda is going to attract a lot of opposition. I mean, last time, I think in a day or two, we had 16 different negative stories in the same paper [the Washington Post].

“As for finding a new way to handle it, psychologically, I think we’re getting there. I think we’re figuring that out.”



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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 21 Jun, 2019 10:00 am
The Rules of the Game

Quote:
The fight for the Democratic presidential nomination will begin to assume a more concrete shape on the nights of June 26 and 27, when twenty candidates take the stage in Miami for the first round of debates. They qualified to participate by meeting one of two criteria before June 12: securing a minimum number of donors (at least 65,000) or registering more than one percent support in three major polls. The qualifying criteria are the same for the second round of debates in Detroit on July 30 and 31. For the third round, to be held on September 12 and 13 (in a location not yet chosen), the criteria are essentially doubled, which could winnow the field considerably. The Democratic National Committee has sanctioned twelve debates, to be held until next April.

The nomination is usually settled by that point in the election cycle—perhaps not officially or mathematically, but practically. It was clear by mid-March 2016, for example, that Bernie Sanders would not catch Hillary Clinton, and it was equally clear by around the same time in 2008—if not earlier—that Clinton would lose to Barack Obama. In 1992 Bill Clinton essentially wrapped up the nomination by winning the Illinois primary on March 17.

There are reasons to think that this time the nomination battle could drag into June 2020, when the primaries end, or even, some have suggested, all the way to the convention in July, making for the first truly contested Democratic convention since 1952, when Adlai Stevenson arrived and declared himself to have no interest in the nomination but delivered a welcoming speech so good that it ultimately led to the delegates choosing him on the third ballot over Tennessee senator Estes Kefauver. The reasons have to do, first, with new rules the party wrote after the Clinton–Sanders battle in 2016, and, second, with a growing schism in the party between its two poles of influence in the age of social media: the younger, urban, and more left-leaning people who carry out a daily and often pestiferous political dialogue on Twitter, and the older and more traditionally liberal-to-moderate people who make up the actual backbone of the party across America. If there is a division within the party that will bring it to ruin in 2020, this is it.

One might wish that this schism did not exist during an election in which the fate of the republic is at stake in a way it arguably has not been since 1860, or that the Democrats had not made these particular changes to its nominating process. But it does, and they have. Both reflect the seriousness of the fight to define the party anew as it crawls out of the Clinton “New Democrat” era in search of some as-yet-unnamed identity. I think both factions more or less agree on the problems: the recent failure of American capitalism to provide the more broadly shared prosperity we once enjoyed, the crisis facing our democracy and institutions under Trump, and the depraved authoritarianism of the Republican Party. But Democrats are quite divided on the solutions, a division that already helped put Donald Trump in office and could, if combatants on both sides of the argument don’t tread cautiously and think ahead, help to reelect him.

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nyrb/tomasky

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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 11:05 am
Pete Buttigieg has a much bigger black problem than I first imagined—and THAT is saying something.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2019/06/21/pete-buttigieg-black-lives-matter-protesters-ebof-vpx.cnn

He has a law enforcement problem in South Bend that he hasn’t managed. I think this last straw is one too many for his fledgling campaign.



hightor
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 12:01 pm
@Lash,
I think he might have a few straws left.

Quote:
Michael Patton, president of the South Bend N.A.A.C.P., who stood quietly aside, praised the mayor, who is mostly known as a whiz kid versed in data and policy, for displaying empathy to both the Logan family and the police officer who shot him, Ryan O’Neill.

“I think we saw the human side of the mayor,” he said.

Earlier in the day, Mr. Patton told CNN that Mr. Buttigieg had his endorsement for president. “He’s led our community, South Bend, well, and I believe —— I have full confidence he could lead our nation as well,” he said.

After nearly an hour, the group of about 100 set off on a march to the County-City Building downtown, which houses the 14th-floor mayor’s office. Mr. Buttigieg, in suit pants, a white shirt and a blue tie, walked at the head of one group, while across the street other marchers shouted profanities about the police. Emotions cooled somewhat by the time the crowd reached City Hall.

“I want you to know we’re serious about fixing this,” the mayor told the crowd. He promised new policies would be developed and implored people to attend a town hall event he would lead.

“You’ve got to show up, not just online,” he said. “And when you show up, you will be heard.”

There was some applause.

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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 02:09 pm
I’ll bring back related data as we track it.
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Reply Sat 22 Jun, 2019 11:13 pm
@Lash,
Swell!
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2019 06:19 am
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2019/06/23/politics/bernie-sanders-student-loan-debt-cancellation/index.html

Excerpt:
CNN) Sen. Bernie Sanders is set to stake out uncharted territory in the Democratic presidential primary, offering up a plan to completely eliminate the student loan debt of every American.

On Monday, Sanders will submit legislation that cancels $1.6 trillion of student loan undergraduate and graduate debt for approximately 45 million people. His ambitious plan has no eligibility limitations and would be paid for with a new tax on Wall Street speculation.

The proposal goes further than the plan already unveiled by his Democratic primary rival Sen. Elizabeth Warren. Warren's debt relief package was subject to income eligibility levels to determine how much relief the average person would receive -- parameters that Warren said were aimed at closing the racial wealth gap. Under the Sanders plan, if you have student debt of any kind it would be canceled the second the legislation is signed into law.
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Reply Mon 24 Jun, 2019 06:31 am
@hightor,
I watched Pete trying to communicate with a room full of furious black constituents and previously, a gathering outside somewhere. I give him great credit for trying that.

I gotta say though, when you’re applying for president—with all the pressures both domestic and foreign—and you end up crying. Twice. On camera. A no-goer.

No crying president for me, please.

I can anticipate some oppositional defiant peanut head dragging up here, extolling the virtues of empathy n ****, but loss of composure is not an acceptable response to conflict for a president.
 

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