camlok
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 12:01 pm
@coldjoint,
Not countries, just the Nazi like folks within those countries, like Trump supporters.
coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 12:04 pm
@camlok,
Quote:
Not countries, just the Nazi like folks within those countries,

They arrest citizens for what they on social media, they censor their press, and are apologists for Islam. They are Nazis. But this thread is about our Nazi-like Left, isn't it?
camlok
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 12:13 pm
@coldjoint,
You clipped the part about the Trump/right wing Nazis. That is your usual "intellectual" dishonesty.

Nazis are known for their illegal invasions of sovereign nations, correct? That is the major crime for which many were hung.

When it comes to illegal invasions of sovereign nations, the Nazis were pikers compared to the USA.

A new word has to be invented for this much greater evil than the Nazis. Remember many of the top US business leaders, the NY Bar, ... loved the Nazis. Many of your prezes are descendants of these Nazi lovers.
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camlok
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 12:16 pm
@coldjoint,
Quote:
they censor their press


The US press self censors, and when it becomes necessary the US government censors the media, like in Korea, Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, ... .

What don't you understand about "embedded with the US military" not being total censorship?
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 12:28 pm
https://www.cdn-likeopedia.com/uploads/post_images/5b8e7b75c688f.jpg
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 12:31 pm
Kavanaugh tried to force a teenager immigrant being detained in Texas to give birth. He was finally overruled by his fellow judges and he wrote a blistering dissent in that case. Couple the tape of im playing games with this woman's life and the secrecy of 100k pages of his White House record and this could end him. The fate of this nomination is going to depend on women and whether you want to do what is necessary to end his nomination.

The *only* way to end this scumbag's nomination is to target Lisa Murkowski and Susan Collins and flood them with millions of calls and letters from all across the country. Bret Kavanaugh opposes Roe and when he testilies before the senate tomorrow, he is going to say "I think it's inappropriate to comment on cases that may come before the court" OR he will lie and say, "I believe in judicial precedence."

Make no mistake, women's right to bodily autonomy is what is at stake here. If you did not hear the tape of Kavanaugh conducting that hearing with the ACLU then you need to hear it because that will allow you to hear in his own words, what he does to try and deny this woman her right to bodily autonomy. Otherwise, you get to be 2nd class citizens, again.

Murkowski, Lisa Washington, D.C. (202) 224-6665
Collins, Susan Washington, D.C. (202) 224-2523
United States Senate
Washington, D.C. 20510
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camlok
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 12:38 pm
@edgarblythe,
Excellent graphic, Edgar.

It's strange how various Americans will react to this total truism. Of course there will be the racists who use the always lame "Colin hates America" song and dance routine.

Why don't more honest people stand up and say,

"You know, this is all so true. Why should Blacks be celebrating this ugly ugly centuries long USA behavior. Especially when it came, and still comes from the voices of those who are supposed to represent the highest offices, the Founding Fathers, the legislators, the USSC, state governments, ... .

Others stay silent even when they know the truth. No one is doing their country any favors by trying to hide ugly truths, evil politicians, evil military, police forces, ...
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 01:09 pm
@edgarblythe,
Black people can get passports and leave.
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coldjoint
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 01:12 pm

Kind of shoots the title of this thread down.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 01:44 pm
Robert Reich
·
Never forget that the core of the U.S. economy is spending by the middle class. If their wages are going nowhere and they can't go any more deeply into debt, that spending isn't sufficient to buy the goods and services companies produce. That's what happened in 2008 and in 1929. It's no coincidence that in the preceding years -- 2007 and 1928 -- the richest 1 percent took home the highest shares of total income on record, while the pay of most Americans stagnated. Watch your wallets.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 01:51 pm
Democrats measure their desire for change in JFK's old district
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/31/politics/massachusetts-house-primary-ayanna-pressley-mike-capuano/index.html?utm_term=link&utm_source=fbCNN&utm_content=2018-09-03T18%3A31%3A02&utm_medium=social

Rising Democratic star Ayanna Pressley is testing whether her party is willing to cast aside its experienced and reliable veterans in favor of a new generation of leaders who argue they are more suited for politics in the Donald Trump era.

Pressley, the 44-year-old who became Boston's first black female city councilor in 2009, is challenging 10-term incumbent Rep. Mike Capuano in the September 4 primary in one of the most heavily Democratic regions in the nation once represented in Congress by John F. Kennedy. It's an urban and diverse district winding through Boston, Somerville, Cambridge and other nearby towns.
Some Democrats see Pressley as the next Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-style giant-slayer. But taking down the 66-year-old Capuano, who is one of the most progressive members of Congress, could be an even tougher task.
Pressley's chances at victory depend on whether she can drive young people and minorities who she says have been forgotten in the district to the polls, despite state laws that make turning out new and infrequent voters difficult. And it will gauge whether the Democratic energy that has helped women win most contested primaries this year can be turned against an incumbent who hasn't broken with the left on any important votes.
"This is a fight for the soul of our party. This is a fight for the future of our democracy," Pressley said at a recent canvassing event in Cambridge. "We might vote the same way but we will lead differently. These times require and this district deserves bold, activist leadership."
A debate over tactics
Pressley has long been a Democratic star in the making. Her campaign slogan -- "Change Can't Wait" -- connects the Democratic optimism of the early Barack Obama years to the urgency of Trump's presidency. Pressley is a commanding stage presence who frequently ditches microphones; she doesn't need them. She talks openly about her father being incarcerated for much of her childhood and about being a rape victim. Her go-to line, that "the people closest to the pain should be closest to the power," explains her calls for change in a district where people of color now outnumber white people.
Over late-night tacos at a Mexican restaurant after an event in Everett, Pressley said the district is among the nation's most uneven.
"The systemic inequalities and disparities are worsening," she said.
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That she'd diversify Massachusetts' all-white, mostly male House delegation, she said, is "the bonus."
"It's about who I listen to and it's about who I govern with. And there are a lot of people in this district who feel left out and left behind and ignored -- and it's not just women, it's not just people of color," Pressley said. "It runs the gamut. And I think after a generation, the district deserves a choice."
Thirty minutes later, Pressley watched as her campaign's first television commercial -- a Spanish-language spot -- played on Tacos El Paso's TV.
One of the most telling clashes in the Capuano versus Pressley race so far has been over Colin Kaepernick, the former San Francisco 49ers quarterback who triggered a national debate by kneeling during the National Anthem.
In a town hall in Boston last year, Capuano took issue with Kaepernick's tactics. "It was the way he said it that turned off half of America, which I don't think is productive," Capuano said then.
The issue was raised at the candidates' final debate, and Capuano stuck to his position that kneeling during the anthem "divided America."
"I thought that particular action divided America, because he chose to do it on the National Anthem," Capuano said. "I understand what he's doing. I actually agree with the concept of what he's doing. I just thought it could have been done in a way that would have brung more people into the discussion, rather than actually anger an awful lot of America."
Pressley, though, said she backed Kaepernick's concerns and his tactics, saying that police brutality toward black men "strikes at the soul and consciousness of this country, and this should be of consequence and concern to everyone."
"It is necessary," she said, "that we are disruptive right now and making people uncomfortable."
The next Ocasio-Cortez?
In the wake of Ocasio-Cortez's stunning upset of the No. 4-ranking House Democrat, New York Rep. Joe Crowley, in June, Pressley was seen as the next potential challenger to take down a House Democratic incumbent -- in part because, hours after her victory, Ocasio-Cortez took to Twitter to highlight Pressley and said: "Vote her in next, Massachusetts."
But there are important differences in the two races.
A factor that complicates Pressley's chances: Massachusetts' laws, like New York's, are far behind most Democratic pushes to expand voting access. In New York, those restrictive voting laws created an opening for Ocasio-Cortez to win a low-turnout affair in which most voters weren't paying attention. In Massachusetts, they make it tougher for Pressley to win what's likely to be a higher-turnout election that most Democrats are watching closely, but that low-propensity voters may be more likely to skip, since it takes place the day after Labor Day.
Who's next? Progressive primary insurgents to watch
Who's next? Progressive primary insurgents to watch
Ocasio-Cortez was a 28-year-old political newcomer who shocked the political world in part because Crowley didn't take her challenge seriously enough. Pressley, though, is a well-known figure in Massachusetts politics: She worked for former Rep. Joe Kennedy II and former Sen. John Kerry before being elected to the Boston city council, and her congressional bid has drawn the endorsements of high-profile Democratic figures like Attorney General Maura Healey.
Her higher profile has made for a different race: While Ocasio-Cortez largely flew under the radar outside progressive media, Pressley was endorsed by the Boston Globe.
Knowing the threat Pressley poses, Capuano has prepared for a close race for months. His campaign has highlighted progressive positions like his early support for "Medicare for all," his opposition to the Iraq war, his opposition to the creation of ICE and his perfect scores from Democratic groups on issues like gun control and abortion rights.
Pressley, meanwhile, has never identified a specific fireable offense from Capuano.
Pressley, a Hillary Clinton surrogate who in 2016 warned about the cost of "Medicare for all," now supports single-payer health care. She wants to abolish ICE and has sworn off corporate PAC money. Capuano, meanwhile, has a long record of opposing war.
But Pressley has never offered herself as a progressive insurgent taking on the moderate Democratic establishment.
Pressley concedes that she and Capuano would likely cast the same votes -- though she gives Capuano no credit for those votes, saying at a campaign stop in Cambridge that it's "no profile in courage; that's baseline doing your job."
Capuano, a member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus who's been in office since 1999, wasn't eager to draw policy contrasts, either. Even after several debates, he said he has "no idea" how he's more progressive than Pressley, and declined to point to any key distinctions.
"My opponent has an obligation to say what she would be doing differently," Capuano said in an interview on a recent Tuesday as he stood on a street corner outside S&S Deli in Cambridge holding signs with a nurses' union that endorsed him. He said Pressley "hasn't done that, except to say that she'd do it differently."
"I don't know what that means," Capuano said.
Capuano's campaign has the support of much of the state and national Democratic power structure -- including Kennedy, former Massachusetts Gov. Deval Patrick and civil rights icon Georgia Rep. John Lewis.
He said Pressley is fundamentally misstating his record in Congress. He pointed to a series of projects -- including $1 billion for a Green Line commuter rail project and other housing and rail efforts.
"That's not a vote, that's advocacy," he said. "That's getting things done in Washington."
He also declined to address Pressley's argument that the district needs activist leadership.
"I don't have a response. I don't respond to generic comments like that, because there's nothing to respond to," Capuano said. "I point to my record."
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camlok
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 01:59 pm
@edgarblythe,
You, like I, Edgar are whistling in a howling wind. Trying to get brainwashed folks sane again is futile, but like Mark Twain you can have fun trying, pointing out their idiocy.

Rock on!
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 02:23 pm
Robert Reich
24 mins ·
More details about the chaos and dysfunction inside the White House. According to Bob Woodward’s new book, Trump has become deeply paranoid about the Mueller investigation and shows little interest in the day-to-day duties of the presidency. The situation has reportedly become so out of control that aides have actually removed documents from his desk to prevent him from signing them. In meetings with national security advisors, he loses focus easily, launching into diatribes about immigration and the media.

These officials have a duty to do more than shuffle papers on Trump's desk. They must speak out to warn the American people about this reckless president. It is up to us to elect a Congress in November that will check Trump and his enablers.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 4 Sep, 2018 05:48 pm
https://www.truthdig.com/articles/chris-hedges-america-is-entering-its-final-phase-video/

“If any of you came here this evening with the idea of hearing how well we’re all doing in America these days, you want to leave now.” So began Bradley Graham, owner of Politics and Prose in Washington, D.C., introducing Chris Hedges during recent talk and book-signing event.

Hedges, a veteran journalist and Truthdig columnist, spent much of his early career as a foreign correspondent, but in recent years has turned his incisive eye toward the United States. His new book, “America: The Farewell Tour,” details a nation destroying itself through an array of ills: xenophobia, the opioid epidemic, economic inequality and the rise of the far right among them.

“Civilizations, over the past 6,000 years, have a habit of eventually squandering their futures through acts of colossal stupidity and hubris. We are not an exception. We are entering this final phase of civilization,” Hedges writes of America. At his Aug. 22 book talk in Washington, Hedges described the reporting process that led him to this conclusion, and discussed traveling the country to write the book, interviewing Americans from all parts of the country.

Hedges spoke to workers in an Indiana town who voted for Bernie Sanders in the 2016 primary, and then backed Trump in the general election, because they remember Bill Clinton’s support of NAFTA that took away their union jobs—people who live in towns decimated by decades of globalization.


He also described his interviews with Americans whose families and towns were wrecked by the opioid crisis, and even the evening he spent around a bonfire with members of the alt-right, during which he and his research assistant felt so unsafe they had to flee.

Hedges said reporting and traveling around the country keeps him “intellectually honest” and challenges his long-held beliefs.

He urged those in the audience who could to also get out of their comfort zones.

Watch the video of Hedges’ appearance at Politics and Prose below.

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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2018 05:28 am
Ayanna Pressley learns she won her Massachusetts primary for Congress
She broke down in stunned tears of joy.
revelette1
 
  1  
Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2018 08:13 am
@edgarblythe,
What do progressives think of Pressley? Do they think she won on the coattails of the progressive wind without truly being a progressive? Seems to me those in Mass. just have got themselves caught up in surface of the progressives. Capuano seemed to me more a progressive or at least as progressive as anyone could be and his record seems to bear that out.
mysteryman841
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2018 11:21 am
What exactly is a "progressive"?

I have seen people define themselves as progressives, as "democrat socialists", as liberals, etc. and I don't see any difference between them.

So tell me...what is a progressive?
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2018 11:25 am
@mysteryman841,
When liberal became a dirty word to many, progressive became the terminology. Me, I'm still a liberal.
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revelette1
 
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Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2018 11:39 am
I guess if I had define myself I would be simply a democrat who believes in strong "progressive" social programs for middle and lower economic groups.

But I think what Edgar said is right, in today's newly political environment, a progressive is a liberal democrat. Progressives today do not believe in any compromising because they feel that establishment democrats have given up too much for far too little for far too long and it has resulted in a republican conservative government. Moreover most of them think it hasn't come about just by good intentions gone bad, but by corruption in the ranks of establishment democrats being beholding to big donors like big oil companies and big corporations.

This is where I differ with today's progressives, I don't believe they have been bought out by big donors, but just have made pragmatic decisions based on the political environment at the time. I am not saying there are not some corrupt democrats, just not that it is the norm and the very reason why the government has become more conservative.
camlok
 
  0  
Reply Wed 5 Sep, 2018 11:45 am
@mysteryman841,
Quote:
What exactly is a "progressive"?

I have seen people define themselves as progressives, as "democrat socialists", as liberals, etc. and I don't see any difference between them.

So tell me...what is a progressive?


You are perfect material for easy brainwashing, mm.

"How fortunate for governments that the people they administer don't think." - Adolph Hitler

Progressives, liberals don't readily believe the lies of their governments. They aren't, "Garshucks, let's go and kill millions of people because our governments said they attacked us" kind of people.

They aren't dumb, unthinking people who go on believing even when they know their governments lied to them.

They don't make good death camp guard material, or even good military people because they continue to think.

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