georgeob1
 
  -1  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:03 am
@Brand X,
Interesting question. Sec. State Albright and President Clinton negotiated a deal in which we provided, similar nuclear technology and materials to North Korea, and at no cost to them.

They declared it a great step forward.
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oralloy
 
  -4  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 08:20 am
@Brand X,
This Gabbard person must be a leftist weirdo.

Saudi Arabia tries to acquire reactors that are only useful for generating power and not making weapons, and leftist weirdos call it a proliferation risk.

Iran tries to build a reactor that is only useful for making weapons and not generating power, and leftist weirdos say it is completely innocent.

I don't know which is more shocking, that leftist weirdos are actually dumb enough to think that western light water reactors are a proliferation risk, or that leftist weirdos oppose nuclear weapons in the hands of our allies and support nuclear weapons in the hands of our enemies.
Brand X
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 09:36 am
@oralloy,
Nuclear fissile materials and materials handling for making weapons are no different than that used in making power. Neither Iran or Saudi Arabia should be trusted with it, two wrongs don't make a right.

Saudi Arabia have talked out both sides of their mouth, they talk about being nuke-free, but also reportedly inquired about weapons. It isn't in our best interest to approve these nuclear technology deals with them, albeit Saudi's have the world's most profitable company so they can get what they want anywhere.

oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 09:43 am
@Brand X,
Brand X wrote:
Nuclear fissile materials and materials handling for making weapons are no different than that used in making power.

That is incorrect. Western light water reactors are very bad at producing weapons-grade material.


Brand X wrote:
Neither Iran or Saudi Arabia should be trusted with it, two wrongs don't make a right.

Leftist weirdos do not agree with you. They think it is OK for Iran to build nuclear weapons.


Brand X wrote:
Saudi Arabia have talked out both sides of their mouth, they talk about being nuke-free, but also reportedly inquired about weapons.

Where did they inquire about weapons?


Brand X wrote:
It isn't in our best interest to approve these nuclear technology deals with them, albeit Saudi's have the world's most profitable company so they can get what they want anywhere.

Western light water reactors are harmless enough.
georgeob1
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 10:29 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Brand X wrote:
Nuclear fissile materials and materials handling for making weapons are no different than that used in making power.

That is incorrect. Western light water reactors are very bad at producing weapons-grade material.


You are incorrect. There are several varieties of water moderated reactors, but all use U-235 as their fuel. That's the same isotope used in a more highly enriched and concentrated form in the Hiroshima Bomb.

Thermonuclear weapons are triggered by the fission of either U-235 or PU-239 but get the main source of their explosive energy from the fusion of a deuterium-lithium compound.

Plutonium doesn't occur in nature (on the earth), and it is produced by the fission of U-235 in the presence of U-238, which absorbs a neutron and yields Plutonium after a rapid decay chain.

Bottom line is that U-235 is the source for it all.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 11:19 am
@georgeob1,
georgeob1 wrote:
Thermonuclear weapons are triggered by the fission of either U-235 or PU-239 but get the main source of their explosive energy from the fusion of a deuterium-lithium compound.

Actually about half of the energy of a thermonuclear weapon comes from fission of uranium. There are rare exceptions, but they are atypical.


georgeob1 wrote:
Plutonium doesn't occur in nature (on the earth), and it is produced by the fission of U-235 in the presence of U-238, which absorbs a neutron and yields Plutonium after a rapid decay chain.

You are overlooking the fact that the production of large quantities of plutonium requires more neutrons than a light water reactor can produce. A light water reactor will produce plutonium only very slowly.

You are also overlooking the fact that western light water reactors do not have a special section for fertile material to absorb neutrons and then be removed without shutting down the reactor. If anyone wants to extract plutonium from a western light water reactor they will need to shut it down, remove the core, and extract the plutonium from the fuel itself.

And you are overlooking the fact that the plutonium needs to be quickly removed from a rector to retain weapons-grade purity. If anyone wants to produce weapons-grade plutonium with a western light water reactor, they will have to shut down the reactor and reprocess the fuel every couple weeks, all for a very small quantity of plutonium.
blatham
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 12:55 pm
Note the problem...
Quote:
STUART VARNEY (HOST): Pope Francis taking a shot at President Trump, saying that those who close borders, quote, "will become prisoners of the walls that they build." Liz? Pope's getting political again.

ELIZABETH MACDONALD (FOX BUSINESS HOST): Yeah, he's getting political again
MM

Now, do a google search using the terms "Fox" and "Jerry Falwell Jr"

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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 12:58 pm
Anybody surprised?
Quote:
Son of Stormfront founder: My family watches Tucker Carlson "because they feel that he is making the white nationalist talking points better than they have"
MM
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 01:06 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Anybody surprised?

Carlson is not responsible for his viewers or their opinions. That you would use it to play the race and conspiracy card does not surprise me at all.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 01:36 pm
@coldjoint,
Of course hes responsible. Thats precisely why fox hired him, for his influence on gullible viewers.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 01:49 pm
Quote:
Of course hes responsible.

Then I guess Obama is responsible for the opinions of Bill Aryes, Louis Farrakhan, Edward Said, and Rev. Wright.

Quote:

Edward Said: Oppressed Fraud
The hoax of the world’s second most famous Palestinian.

Obama dined with this man many times.
https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/238850/edward-said-oppressed-fraud-daniel-greenfield

Do not forget Obama's mentor Frank Marshall, a Communist activist who also took nude pictures of Obama's mother. Would you like to see some? Google them, I will not post them for obvious reasons.
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blatham
 
  2  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 07:39 pm
Quote:
NYT Politics
‏Verified account
@nytpolitics
Harris’s campaign said she had received 218,000 contributions in total and that 98 percent of her contributions were under $100. Her average donation was about $55.
That's pretty damned impressive.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 1 Apr, 2019 07:42 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
NYT Politics

Crap source, how do we know they are not lying? We don't, it is much safer to disregard anything they say.
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Brand X
 
  1  
Reply Tue 2 Apr, 2019 04:37 am
@oralloy,
LWR's have been around forever. A recent study found that they are not as much of a proliferation deterrent as once thought because of advancement in ways to make reprocessing plants.

'Conclusions
The Light Water Reactor (LWR), the standard power source for most nuclear power stations around the world and the likely design for future ones, is not nearly so "proliferation resistant" as it has been widely advertised to be. From a proliferation point of view the LWR is generally preferable to other types of power reactors but the differences are more blurred than was previously appreciated.
With today's technology small, difficult to find, clandestine enrichment facilities or reprocessing plants could provide the reactor's owners with militarily significant quantities of nuclear explosives.
We need therefore to revise the conventional wisdom that LWRs are a safe proposition for siting in just about any country so long as there are no accompanying commercial uranium enrichment facilities or reprocessing facilities.
The principal "front end" concern relates to gas centrifuge enrichment plants. . It is now widely understood that even if such plants are safeguarded and designed to produce low enriched uranium (LEU) for LWR fuel, their owners could convert them quickly to produce highly enriched uranium (HEU) for bombs. It is less appreciated that if the owners divert some of the LEU produced by the declared plant and used as feed for a clandestine enrichment plant, they can reduce the needed plant capacity by a factor of five. Moreover, such LEU feed need not rely on the existence of an LEU plant; it could come from processing the fuel pellets of a fresh LWR fuel reload. The possibility of using centrifuges to produce HEU for bombs has been enhanced by recent revelations regarding Pakistan's spread of this technology to Iran, Libya, and North Korea, and possibly others, with the fabrication of parts in a number of other countries.
It is also widely understood that reprocessing plants that separate plutonium from LWR spent fuel for later use as fuel could also provide plutonium for bombs. What is less understood, and emphasized in this report, is that small, clandestine reprocessing plants could provide the reactor's owners with militarily significant quantities of nuclear explosives. Such technology is well within the capabilities of countries like North Korea or Iran.
Clandestine reprocessing is only half of the plutonium concern. The other is that contrary to conventional wisdom LWRs can be copious sources of near-weapons grade plutonium that can be used to make powerful nuclear weapons. The widely debated issue of the usability for weapons of plutonium from LWR fuel irradiated to its commercial limit has diverted attention from the capacity of an LWR to produce large quantities of near-weapons grade plutonium from partially irradiated spent fuel. The characteristics of bombs based on this material would not be significantly different than those based on weapons grade plutonium.'

http://npolicy.org/article.php?aid=172

oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 2 Apr, 2019 05:45 am
@Brand X,
The world would notice if someone started unloading and reprocessing the core of a light water reactor after only operating it for a short time.
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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Tue 2 Apr, 2019 10:09 am
Quote:
Trump opposes any of that additional funding. In an unusually disgusting and hateful series of tweets, he claimed that Puerto Rico has already gotten $91 billion in aid, which he said has been “wasted” by “grossly incompetent” leaders there.

Crucially, Trump also argued that Puerto Rico politicians “only take from USA” and that Democrats now “want to give them more, taking dollars away from our Farmers.”

Trump’s claim that Puerto Rico has already gotten $91 billion in aid is a lie. As Glenn Kessler demonstrates, less than $20 billion has actually been laid out or identified, and Trump’s figure is based on an internal government estimate of what might be spent under current statutes over 20 years, an estimate that is itself very fuzzy and subject to change.

The claim that Democrats want to take money from Midwestern disaster relief and give it to Puerto Rico is also a lie.
WP

Hard to imagine the US in significantly worse shape if Charles Manson had been elected.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Tue 2 Apr, 2019 10:10 am
@blatham,
Quote:
WP

No credible source?
Walter Hinteler
 
  4  
Reply Tue 2 Apr, 2019 10:36 am
@coldjoint,
coldjoint wrote:
Quote:
WP

No credible source?
You think, Donald J. Trump @ realDonaldTrump is an unreliable source?
livinglava
 
  -1  
Reply Tue 2 Apr, 2019 10:54 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Hard to imagine the US in significantly worse shape if Charles Manson had been elected.

I hope you understand that what has happened under Trump is that the socialist-globalist empire has been retaliating against the US to punish Trump and motivate the people to overthrow him so that a new puppet president can be installed.

If global society respected democracy, it would not retaliate against anyone for seeking independence. It's not, though. It is a network of power that seeks to subjugate people and countries in order to maintain global economic stability for the sake of investments and other economic transfers that everyone relies on.

It would be like if you tried to quit your job and your boss and coworkers started punishing you in various ways to make you stop threatening to leave or change jobs.

Trump is a person who wants to improve the US balance of trade. I don't know if he really cares about achieving greater local economic independence or if it's just about gaining leverage in global markets. Either way, though, it is probably a good idea because it's not like the rest of the world is a peaceful republic free of oppression, manipulation, exploitation, environmental abuse and unsustainability, etc.

Comparing Trump to Charles Manson ignores the authoritarian power dynamics that go on around the world, of which the smear campaign against Trump is just a small part. Think about it. Why does the media pick favorites and black sheep except to use public attention as reward/punishment to pursue the economic goals of their funders? Obviously there are rich powerful funding sources globally investing in the Trump smear campaign and otherwise undermining people that dare to question the global networks of business and trade (legal and illegal), or else Trump's own money would have him portrayed as the kind of benevolent king that Obama was made to look like.
blatham
 
  1  
Reply Tue 2 Apr, 2019 01:38 pm
@livinglava,
Quote:
I hope you understand that what has happened under Trump is that the socialist-globalist empire has been retaliating against the US to punish Trump and motivate the people to overthrow him so that a new puppet president can be installed.

Of course I understand. I'm part of the plot. You know what else we're up to? Those condensation trails behind jets? Some is condensation, sure, but also we're spreading gluten and african sperm.

And every time it rains
it rains
jism from heaven
don't you know
each contrail contains
jism from heaven
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