maporsche
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 10:23 am
@revelette1,
revelette1 wrote:


Quote:
People don’t like Hillary Clinton


Which is why she won the popular vote by a huge number.


She received 65,853,514 votes.
Compared to 2012 when Obama received 65,915,795 votes.

So yes, she was hated so much that she received 99.91% as many votes as Obama did (who IIRC was much more popular).


Now, Obama did receive 69,498,516 votes in 2008...and I would think the excitement for voting for the first female president would be about the same as the first black president. No doubt that Obama was much more exciting in 2008 than Clinton was in 2016. Maybe misogyny is deeper than I thought.

Voters should have still taken their responsibility seriously and showed up to prevent what happened. I blame the apathetic American voters as much as I blame Clinton.

There is also the 8 year cyclic nature of our politics right now. It's been pretty rare for the same party to have control for more than 2 terms in my lifetime.
blatham
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 11:12 am
@maporsche,
Quote:
She received 65,853,514 votes.
Compared to 2012 when Obama received 65,915,795 votes.

One would think such stats might impinge on the "nobody liked Hillary" narrative. Curious why for many it does not.
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blatham
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 11:22 am
@snood,
Quote:
And they try to proselytize their limited scope.
That's a smart observation about "purist" thinking in most realms, it seems to me.
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hightor
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 11:45 am
@oralloy,
Quote:
Unconstitutional. No justification for doing so.

Bullshit. Where does it say what style of firearm civilians are allowed to bear? And an epidemic of gun violence is sufficient justification.
Quote:
Pointing out facts that contradict your position isn't a game.

Not applicable in this case. No contradiction, merely elaboration.
Quote:

But thanks for making it clear to hunters that leftists want to ban their hunting weapons.

You're just showing how totally inept you are as a hunter. You mean you can't shoot a ******* deer unless blowback or recoil action chambers your next round for you? Awww.... Are you too weak to handle a lever or bolt action? Too poor a shot to rely on a single shot model? When all semi-autos are banned, confiscated, and destroyed, real sportsmen will still have plenty of hunting rifles, shotguns, and revolvers to choose from.

I'd suggest you head right down head right down to your local constabulary and turn in your semi-autos right now. That way you won't have to wait in a long line.
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 11:47 am
@hightor,
Quote:
And an epidemic of gun violence is sufficient justification.

That epidemic is in Democratically run shitholes with very strict gun laws that criminals ignore. It is what criminals do. Clean up the gangs. And watch the epidemic end.
hightor
 
  3  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 11:49 am
@Lash,
Quote:

People don’t like Hillary Clinton.


Really? Gallup declared her the Most Admired Woman of 2016. It was her 15th consecutive win and her 21st time ever.

hightor
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 11:53 am
@coldjoint,
Quote:
That epidemic is in Democratically run shitholes with very strict gun laws that criminals ignore.

Public schools, churches, and synagogues are "Democratically run shitholes"?
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 12:11 pm
@hightor,
Quote:
Public schools, churches, and synagogues are "Democratically run shitholes"?

Compared to other countries none of those shootings are endemic, or they are more endemic in those countries. I have posted articles that show that.
Quote:
America doesn’t actually lead the world in mass shootings

Quote:
Of the 86 countries where we have identified mass public shootings, the US ranks 56th per capita in its rate of attacks and 61st in mass public shooting murder rate. Norway, Finland, Switzerland and Russia all have at least 45 percent higher rates of murder from mass public shootings than the United States.

Notice the Nordic socialist favorites have more than us.
https://nypost.com/2018/08/30/america-doesnt-actually-lead-the-world-in-mass-shootings/
hightor
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 12:27 pm
@coldjoint,
Mass shootings are not the only concern.
Quote:
The United States has more guns and gun deaths than any other developed country in the world, researchers found.

A study by two New York City cardiologists found that the U.S. has 88 guns per 100 people and 10 gun-related deaths per 100,000 people - more than any of the other 27 developed countries they studied.

abcnews
blatham
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 12:51 pm
Quote:
According to a [ur=https://www.pewsocialtrends.org/2019/03/21/public-sees-an-america-in-decline-on-many-fronts/l]new survey[/url] from the Pew Research Center, a majority of Republican voters believe increased racial and ethnic diversity in the United States will weaken the nation's cultural fabric.
h/t Steve Benen

What does one say in the face of such stupidity and hatred?
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 01:11 pm
@blatham,
Quote:

What does on say in the face of such stupidity and hatred?

What do you say to the fact multiculture has failed miserably in Europe? People know that. Hate used in your posts is hypocritical and fear mongering. You are dishonest and decisive..
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Lash
 
  1  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 02:56 pm
@hightor,
I knew someone would bring that up.

That whole gig is always a President or president’s wife-I’m pretty sure with the exception of the present guy in office.

It’s president-y name recognition-y.

Edit: the list is included, and boy did Michelle get snubbed!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gallup%27s_most_admired_man_and_woman_poll
hightor
 
  4  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 03:17 pm
@Lash,
Oh, I agree it's pretty meaningless as far as surveys go, and largely connected to name recognition. But there was so much controversy and suspicion swirling around the woman that you'd have thought name recognition would have been the kiss of death! Yet she won 22 times. So I think it's pretty obvious that some people liked her. I'll bet you'll be singing a different tune anyway when Jane O'Meara makes the list.
Lash
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 03:31 pm
@hightor,
I promise I try to apply logic and test confirmation bias. 🙂
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oralloy
 
  -3  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 03:49 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Bullshit. Where does it say what style of firearm civilians are allowed to bear?

Right here:
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strict_scrutiny

"It must be justified by a compelling governmental interest."


hightor wrote:
And an epidemic of gun violence is sufficient justification.

Not when "what you are trying to ban" has no connection to the violence in question.


hightor wrote:
You're just showing how totally inept you are as a hunter. You mean you can't shoot a ******* deer unless blowback or recoil action chambers your next round for you? Awww.... Are you too weak to handle a lever or bolt action? Too poor a shot to rely on a single shot model?

Thanks for making it clear to hunters that not only do leftists want to take away their hunting weapons, but that they will be denigrated if they object.

If possible, could you post a bunch of stuff like this right before the next election? Now and then an ignorant hunter pops up who doesn't believe that the left is out to ban their hunting weapons. Your posts should be quite useful for educating them.


hightor wrote:
I'd suggest you head right down head right down to your local constabulary and turn in your semi-autos right now. That way you won't have to wait in a long line.

This is really goofy. Neither the NRA nor the Supreme Court will allow you to ban semi-autos. Neither will President Trump.
0 Replies
 
oralloy
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 03:50 pm
@hightor,
hightor wrote:
Mass shootings are not the only concern.
Quote:
The United States has more guns and gun deaths than any other developed country in the world, researchers found.
A study by two New York City cardiologists found that the U.S. has 88 guns per 100 people and 10 gun-related deaths per 100,000 people - more than any of the other 27 developed countries they studied.
abcnews

So what? Those people would be just as dead if they were killed with knives or baseball bats.
0 Replies
 
Setanta
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 05:37 pm
@maporsche,
maporsche wrote:
She received 65,853,514 votes.
Compared to 2012 when Obama received 65,915,795 votes.


This is exactly my point about what an idiotic job she did in her (alleged) campaign plan. Mr. Obama was elected and re-elected. Mrs. Clinton ran a stupid campaign vis-à-vis the Electoral College.

Someone here recently posted about her having more than 20 years of political experience. Bullsh*t--she did nothing and apparently learned notjing.
maporsche
 
  2  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 06:12 pm
@Setanta,
Well, Trump did get get 2 million more votes than Romney and 3 million more than McCain. That plays a part too.

Trump: 62,984,828
Romney: 60,933,504
McCain: 59,948,323
0 Replies
 
Setanta
 
  1  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 06:25 pm
Where you get the votes is what matters.
snood
 
  3  
Reply Fri 22 Mar, 2019 06:35 pm
@Setanta,
Do you also think Hillary would have run a stupid, lazy, ineffective administration if she’d won?
 

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