coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 12:36 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Republicans Are Going to Try the ‘Red Scare’ Strategy Again. Will It Work?

Considering moderate Democrats are saying the same things it just might.
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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 12:54 pm
This is a very good decision - indeed it is a necessary decision.
Quote:
DNC bars Fox from hosting presidential debate
Party Chairman Tom Perez cited what he called the network's "inappropriate relationship" with Trump and his administration.
NBC

Of course, Fox has been doing propaganda long before Trump's arrival. It is just that presently it is much more apparent (to casual news followers). The DNC could have and should have done this long ago. They, like most of the mainstream media, have been too cowardly to identify Fox as a propaganda operation. This failure has really damaged US democracy and there is a real possibility that this damage is not reversable.

American conservatism has used the "There is a war against us" metaphor to describe changing social and political values since the post-Goldwater period. For many of the evangelical sort, this "war" is understood in religious terms (the great over-arching battle between Good and Evil in the universe), for others the "war" is seen as threats to continued white cultural domination, and for yet others it is seen as a battle to protect the sacredness of profit-taking (and this one is rich in the social-darwinism that sees society as nothing more than a contest for dominance - it's a jungle out there and the people who rise to the top are the natural and appropriate rulers of all others).

So, let's accept that we're in a war. Let's crush these selfish bastards before they **** up the world for everybody.
blatham
 
  3  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 01:07 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
Democrats just blocked @FoxNews from holding a debate. Good, then I think I’ll do the same thing with the Fake News Networks and the Radical Left Democrats in the General Election debates!
4:05 PM - 6 Mar 2019


Uh, what now? Trump is going to refuse to have election debate coverage anywhere other than Fox, Sinclair and World Net Daily? He will stand nobly and silently off stage while cameras and kleig lights are focused on others with coverage going out across the major networks?

We need a term much stronger and more acccurate in this moment than "unfit".
coldjoint
 
  -1  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 01:19 pm
@blatham,
Quote:
We need

Are you a dual citizen? It has to be rough trying to destroy two countries. If not, stop with the "we". I know you have me on ignore, maybe someone will tell you.
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blatham
 
  2  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 01:45 pm
Quote:
The New Yorker
‏Verified account
@NewYorker
@BorowitzReport: Obama Demands to See Trump’s Elementary-School Diploma http://nyer.cm/yejqeQg
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 02:02 pm
Quote:
Merriam-Webster defines the word “fascism” as “a political philosophy, movement, or regime (as that of the Fascisti) that exalts nation and often race above the individual and that stands for a centralized autocratic government headed by a dictatorial leader, severe economic and social regimentation, and forcible suppression of opposition.” The secondary definition is “a tendency toward or actual exercise of strong autocratic or dictatorial control.”

Quote:
Google Redefines The Word ‘Fascism’ To Smear Conservatives, Protect Liberal Rioters

Quote:
But if you type the word into Google, the definition they provide is quite different.

The world’s largest search engine pins fascism on the political right, not the left.

Google defines fascism as, “an authoritarian and nationalistic right-wing system of government and social organization.” (emphasis added)

The secondary definition is, “(in general use) extreme right-wing, authoritarian, or intolerant views or practice.”That’s a striking difference from how the word has been defined for decades.

Just so you know who is doing your thinking for you.

https://dailycaller.com/2017/02/04/google-redefines-the-word-fascism-to-smear-conservatives-protect-liberal-rioters/
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 02:16 pm
@coldjoint,
The Italian fascismo (from fascio (“bundle, fasces”) derives from the Latin fasces, and originally only applied (usually capitalised) to Benito Mussolini's Italy which used a representation of the ancient fasces as its emblem.

In English first used 1922 December 1, The American Photo-engraver, volume 15, page 324:
Quote:
Today "Fascism" like Russian "Bolshevism" does not know what freedom means and cares less about the principles of liberty and the rights of man. It knows only one law and that is the will of Mussolini and his band of "Black Shirts."
coldjoint
 
  -3  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 02:22 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
Today "Fascism" like Russian "Bolshevism" does not know what freedom means and cares less about the principles of liberty and the rights of man. It knows only one law and that is the will of Mussolini and his band of "Black Shirts."

The bold sums up the Left nicely. Antifa are their Blackshirts.
revelette1
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 02:37 pm
@blatham,
For those of us who are somewhat unsophisticated, Borowitz Report is political satire. Just giving unsolicited free information.
InfraBlue
 
  2  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 02:41 pm
@coldjoint,
Fascism is[/] politically rightist, what with Merriam-Webster's definition including exaltation of nation and often race above the individual.
Walter Hinteler
 
  3  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 02:45 pm
@coldjoint,
Well, "Antifa" wasn't known at the time of that quote. It was founded ten years later (and in Germany, not Italy) as a last-ditch attempt to establish a cross-party alliance between Communist and Social Democratic workers against the Nazis in 1932

https://i.imgur.com/ee7IE5T.jpg

georgeob1
 
  0  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 03:24 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Quote:
Donald J. Trump
‏Verified account
@realDonaldTrump
Democrats just blocked @FoxNews from holding a debate. Good, then I think I’ll do the same thing with the Fake News Networks and the Radical Left Democrats in the General Election debates!
4:05 PM - 6 Mar 2019


Uh, what now? Trump is going to refuse to have election debate coverage anywhere other than Fox, Sinclair and World Net Daily? He will stand nobly and silently off stage while cameras and kleig lights are focused on others with coverage going out across the major networks?

We need a term much stronger and more acccurate in this moment than "unfit".

This after you gleefully post a note about the DNC decision to exclude Fox News. ? Perhaps you don't perceive your own inconsistrency and hypocrisy.

While I think this involves a bit of all-too-typical Trump overreaction, I suspect Trump will, in the next election, attract as many followers as he did in the last, no matter what the network that carries him.

Just who is this "we" you presume to speak for? The citizens of rural Vancouver? The ardent crew of acolytes you have assembled here?
InfraBlue
 
  3  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 03:25 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:
There is no goal even close to being as important as ensuring Trump does not win another election. We are going to make headway on the matter of Palestine/Israel with the GOP in power?

We aren't going to make headway on the matter of Palestine/Israel with the Democrats in power either. This brouhaha is about US politics, not the Palestine/Israel matter.
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 03:36 pm
@Walter Hinteler,
Quote:
It was founded ten years later (and in Germany, not Italy) as a last-ditch attempt to establish a cross-party alliance between Communist and Social Democratic workers against the Nazis in 1932

Didn't work to well, did it? Remember our political system and guaranteed individual rights is quite different than it was in Europe. Using what worked in Europe will not work here. Either way the existing government was replaced, or would be replaced, by something much worse.

I prefer to clean up the government, not change its responsibilities.
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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 03:50 pm
@revelette1,
The man is a treasure.
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coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 03:55 pm
@InfraBlue,
Quote:
This brouhaha is about US politics, not the Palestine/Israel matter.

You are minimizing a world wide problem. I am sure that is your intention. When it comes to real hate the Left is the winner hands down.
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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 04:11 pm
@georgeob1,
Quote:
This after you gleefully post a note about the DNC decision to exclude Fox News. ? Perhaps you don't perceive your own inconsistrency and hypocrisy.
Perhaps not. It's kind of like the ether and demons which I continue to have trouble perceiving.

Trump "over reacting" you say? I don't think that's the problem here, george. He's responding like an idiot 13 year old barred from the school cafeteria for grabbing girls' pussies and then puffing himself up with threats that he will never eat food again. That'll show them!



blatham
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 04:12 pm
@InfraBlue,
It's about both.
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maporsche
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 04:35 pm
At this point I don’t think that Democrats have anything to gain by debating Trump.

Just hold town halls instead.
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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Thu 7 Mar, 2019 04:47 pm
Certainly worthy of note that Omar voted for the resolution today. 26 Republicans voted against and Steve King voted his conscience - absent.
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