coldjoint
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2019 10:02 pm
@Setanta,
Quote:
This has been so for more than seventy years.

Then it about time it ended.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Thu 21 Feb, 2019 11:42 pm
Xavier Perez
@XPerezNY
·
15h
The same Democrats that are saying
@BernieSanders
is too old to run are praying Ruth Bader Ginsberg’s doesn’t retire soon, happy with more years of Speaker Pelosi, & don’t mention that Feinstein will be 91 when she completes her term. That’s called Selective Ageism!
hightor
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 03:26 am
@edgarblythe,
But none of those people are running for president. I don't think the comparison is particularly apt. And not being able to call an old person "old" is practically an assault on the truth and the right to speak it. It's not "ageism". It's called "language".
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hightor
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 06:07 am
Democracy Ends in Euphemism

Language has been neutralized when it should state the obvious.

Quote:
You could always slight the very rich by calling them moneybags, robber barons, fat cats or plutocrats. Billionaire was a neutral word, grounded in math: Such a person could spend $10 million a year, for 100 years, before the pile was gone.

Then came Howard Schultz, a billionaire times two, insisting that people not use the B-word in describing him. Better to refer to the 540 Americans in his sensitive class as “people of means.” For this he was roundly mocked, and rightly so.

The pushback to the pusher of our favorite South American drug is a fair start. But there is much more to clean up. For we live in a time when language has been weaponized for high crimes and petty cruelties, while neutralized when it should state the obvious. Democracy may die in darkness, as the slogan of a rival newspaper has it, but it also slips away under cover of euphemism.

You can date it to Republican repackaging of the estate tax as a “death tax,” or tax cuts for the rich morphing into “tax relief” for the overly burdened. And were French fries really “freedom fries” during a spasm of faux-patriotism?

Maybe the food marketers started us down this road when “natural” was slapped onto any label — turpentine, for example, which also happens to be gluten-free. Or Big Pharma, using “wellness” to describe treatment by drugs with names from a dance party: Lyrica, Celebrex, and then the Cialis gets passed around.

All of that can be excused as framing to get an advantage. The Democrats are doing it now with the Green New Deal and “Medicare for all” — both of which sound pleasantly pie-in-the-sky and historically resonant until you look at the details, which their sponsors didn’t bother to do.

The most egregious of political language fraud, as George Orwell noted in his seminal essay on the subject, is used for “the defense of the indefensible.” To that end, the Trump administration has been a fount of criminal circumlocution.

We all know about “alternative facts” and “truth isn’t truth” and “fake news” — used by the administration to describe reality. But less attention has been paid to this government’s description of cages for young children separated from their parents. The Trump administration has invented “tender age” shelters to defend the indefensible. It sounds so caring.

And Trump is downgrading “national emergency” from something that comes with a siren for a soundtrack to just another term for cheap political expediency.

It used to be a big deal for a reputable news organization to flat out call the president a liar. Now, liar must be the most-used descriptor linked to this president. It’s also the right word. But “liar” has lost its sting, because Trump clearly doesn’t care about telling the truth. As a journalist, I’d get in more trouble if I said the president is fat — my bad, I mean plus-sized.

The word “socialist” is back in play. This term also used to sting, evoking Cold War authoritarians and empty store shelves. That was true then. What’s true now is that socialist “has lost its meaning,” especially among millennials, as Peter Buttigieg, the young presidential aspirant and mayor of South Bend, Ind., said.

If used to describe help for the elderly, subsidized college or affordable health care, socialist is a net plus. If it implies total government control without choice, it’s a loser. We’ve only just begun the modern reframing of this power word.

At the White House, “executive time” is the bogus term for the majority of the president’s day spent watching Fox News hosts praise him, tweeting insults or playing virtual golf in the new room-sized simulator just installed in the house where Lincoln slept. Kramer did more work in the “Seinfeld” episode where he pretended to have a job.

The border “wall” is a “complexifier,” to use the odd word that multibillionaire Jeff Bezos introduced, but also central to Trumpian Newspeak. The wall doesn’t exist, not in the form Trump has described it — “a great, great wall” made of “hardened concrete.” And yet, it’ll soon be finished. How so?

In a masterstroke of up-is-down, Trump’s rally in El Paso this week switched the “Build the Wall” slogan of his cult to “Finish the Wall.” As my colleagues at Upshot showed, Trump keeps weaseling out of his wall promise by changing the wording — a fence, a barrier, some German shepherds.

The language is crucial here, because it’s the central lie of his presidency. Like Schultz, Trump wants to use his own verbal wallpaper to cover the truth.

egan/nyt
livinglava
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 06:41 am
@hightor,
hightor wrote:

Language has been neutralized when it should state the obvious.

The more money you have, the more responsibility you have to conserve it and not spend or redistribute it. The more you have, though, the more difficult conserving it becomes due to all the bull-socialists who are pressing you to invest and spend it to create economic growth and jobs. The more you give in to that bull pushing, the more inflation occurs and erodes the value of ALL saved money, not just that of the rich.

Debtors love inflation. The more prices and wages inflate, the easier it is for them to pay off debts. Those that avoid debt and save are punished and taxed by inflation. They are the victims of socialism. The person who keeps their things in good condition so they won't have to replace them as often. The person who cooks at home more to save money instead of eating out. The person who reduces, re-uses, and repairs and otherwise reduces their environmental/resource footprint by making more frugal choices.

All these people save money with their efforts and socialism taxes their savings to the benefit of those who throw away damaged items readily and buy replacements for them instead of repairing/re-using. People who discard old clothes to buy the latest fashions. People who move from place to place rather than sticking with one place and keeping it clean and in good repair. People who borrow money to go out partying, drinking, eating out, and otherwise living it up instead of conserving money.

Why is the economic language biased against billionaires and uneven distribution of money? Because the money wasters and debtors of the world want easy money to get out of their current debt and get into even more debt for more spending to come. To them life is an endless big-spending party that they can always push further by stimulating the economy more and getting more inflation to lessen their debt.

Why not stop this terrible culture war against wealth in order to stop or even reverse inflation so that the people who work to cut their spending and save up money, even in small amounts, can see that saved money hold its value and see the environmental/climate impact of the economy shrink in the process? Wouldn't that be a nice change of direction?
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 06:49 am
@georgeob1,
Quote:
It is unfortunate that neither you nor Mr, Kessler took the trouble to identify or even read the "studies" you postulate exist.
Identify? There are a dozen links Kessler provides to data sources.

Read? You're correct in suggesting I didn't read through those data sources in this piece. Your claim that Kessler didn't is simply silly. And if you are meaning to suggest that you are more familiar with this data set than he is...meh...I'm thinkin' that's not likely, george.

And I guess we ought to point out that you provide zero data sources contradicting anything.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 06:55 am
@Setanta,
Yes. And the utility of using illegal immigrants in agriculture and elsewhere goes beyond access to cheap labor, it provides a work force that is far more easily manipulated precisely because of their tenuous legal status. They are going to complain about working conditions or being cheated in payment?

And a second aspect of utility here is that such a work force has been an effective means of disempowering unions.
blatham
 
  1  
Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 07:09 am
@hightor,
Yes. Study of the use/misuse of language is something I'd love to see everyone undertake. It is a fundamental tool for everyone's ability to detect bullshit.

And I'll take this opportunity to once again recommend Larry Tye's book The Father of Spin - Edward L Bernays and the Birth of Public Relations. Amazon has used hard cover copies for as low as $3.00 It is a terrific read and goes a long way to understanding deception techniques and how they became so effective for political propaganda uses.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 08:37 am
I suppose that it's just a benign oversight but it looks as if Trump and the WH have said absolutely **** all regarding the coast guard white supremacist dude who was planning to murder Dem politicos and MSNBC news figures.
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blatham
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 08:46 am
This is pretty damned impressive
Quote:
An Arizona cop threatened to arrest a 12-year-old journalist. She wasn’t backing down.

WP
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 08:54 am
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

Yes. And the utility of using illegal immigrants in agriculture and elsewhere goes beyond access to cheap labor, it provides a work force that is far more easily manipulated precisely because of their tenuous legal status. They are going to complain about working conditions or being cheated in payment?

And a second aspect of utility here is that such a work force has been an effective means of disempowering unions.


But if migrants were legally allowed in, they would not have as much cause to fear their employers, making an opening for another Caesar Chavez. And not allowing them in beggars the plea for asylum from mortal danger in the country they fled.
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snood
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 08:56 am
@blatham,
Now, close your eyes and imagine how that would play out had it been a twelve year old black girl.
blatham
 
  3  
Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 09:00 am
@snood,
Don't even have to close my eyes. Your point is very well taken.
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blatham
 
  3  
Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 09:04 am
Quote:
Fresh off of expanding their legislative majority in Oregon, Democrats in the state ravaged by wildfires have put forward sweeping climate legislation.
WP

A reminder that Dems need sufficient levels of representation in order to pass and implement such critical legislation. And secondly, another reminder here too... that Republicans holding power will never permit such legislation.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 09:24 am
https://scontent.fhou1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/49815663_759976611047680_4903260975806808064_n.jpg?_nc_cat=101&_nc_ht=scontent.fhou1-1.fna&oh=5cb7392fa77182ce22f0ed9990797af8&oe=5CE3167C
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blatham
 
  1  
Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 09:25 am
Let us attend to how ******* insane and dangerous this Fox News crowd has become
Quote:
JOE DIGENOVA (GUEST): We are in a civil war in this country. There's two standards of justice, one for Democrats one for Republicans. The press is all Democrat, all liberal, all progressive, all left - they hate Republicans, they hate Trump. So the suggestion that there's ever going to be civil discourse in this country for the foreseeable future in this country is over. It's not going to be. It's going to be total war. And as I say to my friends, I do two things - I vote and I buy guns.
MM
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 09:31 am
https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/02/16/real-danger-green-new-deal-and-planet-comes-neoliberal-democrats?fbclid=IwAR3q28CDkp5LPE4Bl4d8wqfwxM2np8x844W_U24T2CW2c7ACkoMHNSnyJnE
Predictably, Trump came out against the Green New Deal with a bombastic – and ill-informed – rant in a campaign style rally in El Paso. Here’s what he had to say:

"I really don't like their policy of taking away your car, of taking away your airplane rights, of 'let's hop a train to California,' of you're not allowed to own cows anymore!"

Meanwhile, Mitch McConnell intends to introduce the GND Bill in the Senate, and Republicans, pundits and politicians of most stripes are predicting the bill will hurt the Democrats’ chances in 2020.

But as usual, the inside-the-beltway crowd is way behind the people on this issue; polling clearly shows a large majority of the people support it. In fact, when key elements underpinning the GND were unpacked, Americans overwhelmingly supported nearly all of them, with many provisions polling above 80 percent favorable.

Right now, the Republicans’ unhinged rants against the GND are generating mostly ridicule among Americans, but that could change.

But the real political danger to Democrats isn’t the Republican assault on the GND, it is that they’ll do what they did with Obamacare—run from the issue and allow the Republicans set the terms of the debate. That approach caused the Party to experience record losses at every level of government in 2014, and it looks like the neoliberals in charge of the party are about to do the same with the GND.

For example, here’s what Nancy Pelosi had to say about the Green New Deal: “…The green dream, or whatever they call it, nobody knows what it is, but they're for it, right?" The rest of the Democratic leadership is following her lead, and the party's old guard is following them.

Much of the press and punditry is taking the same approach, and the general message from both the Washington cognoscenti and the press seems to be it’s not “practical” or “politically feasible,” forgetting that’s exactly what they said about Bernie Sanders’ progressive platform, positions that are now wildly popular with the people, and that form the basis of Democrat's victories in 2018.

If you want to see a typical neoliberal critique of the GND, you couldn’t do much better than to read Jonathon Chait’s recent piece on it, which is full of hyperbole, misinformation, and outright mistakes or falsehoods. For example, early in the article he says:

Climate change experts have called for zeroing out emissions in the power sector by 2050, while the Green New Deal proposes doing so by 2030.

But while scientists cite 2050 as the dropdead date for cutting power sector carbon emissions, they also say that each increment of additional warming will cause harm and cost us. Moreover, there’s significant uncertainty embedded in the 2050 deadline; in fact, using the IPCC’s carbon budgets as the basis for establishing deadlines for action allows for a 34 percent chance of exceeding the target, and possibly triggering irreversible feedbacks. So the GND is simply a prudent approach that incorporates a rational safety factor for saving the world.

Chait and his ilk also suggest that the goal of getting to net zero emissions is a technological pipe dream at this point, but again, they’re wrong. Right now, today, the cheapest source of new power is renewable wind and solar power. In some areas, it’s cheaper to shut down an existing coal plant and replace it with renewables than it is to keep running the old coal plant. Electric car sales are skyrocketing as their range and cost come down, and in Europe, they are cheaper to own and run than diesel and gas driven cars. Advances are in the pipeline that will increase their range and decrease charging time. Agriculture, the other big carbon source, can be converted from a carbon source to a carbon sink by changing to techniques that restore and preserve soils – something that we need to do in any case, since the world’s soils are rapidly depleting. Meanwhile, by making our buildings more efficient, we can reduce the amount of new power required to heat and cool them, and lower the cost of a transition to a no-carbon economy. And each of these endeavors creates jobs.

Republicans and some neoliberals are also raising the specter of the GND ushering in socialism, government despotism, and control of our daily lives and choices. And while it will demand unprecedented cooperation, it need not imply limits on our democracy. As Joseph Romm pointed out in a recent article, a World War II level effort is both possible and necessary if we are to preserve out Democracy. Indeed, nothing threatens our freedoms more than the human and economic catastrophes that would result from NOT mitigating climate change.

Finally, there’s the pragmatists and realists. As Chait puts it in his article:

And if doing anything meaningful on climate did require quickly enacting Bernie Sanders’s wish list, then we might as well give up, because nothing like that is going to happen in the next presidential administration.

It appears that Pelosi and the rest of the Democratic leadership shares this perspective. But climate change is a reality based on physics, not politics. It can’t be negotiated with, or ignored, simply because it’s not politic. The job of anyone who is charged with governing must be to meet this challenge, not give up because it’s tough.

The “realists” and “pragmatists” who are advocating caution and warning that embracing the GND will result in Trump winning in 2020 have it exactly wrong. The only way Trump wins is if the Democrats abrogate their responsibility. The people are ready; the technology is at hand; the time is now.

As Gandhi once said, “There go my people. I must follow them, for I am their leader.” The Democrats have tried the practical and cautious route -- the route that has tied them to the elitists and the corporatists; the one that made them run from a populist progressive platform; the one that has reduced them to a minority party -- for four decades now, and it has cost them dearly.

But the stakes are more than political, they are existential. Failing to embrace the GND and head off the global catastrophe that is climate change isn’t simply bad politics, it is tantamount to allowing the wholesale destruction of the climate and ecosystem in which humans evolved.

A party that responds to a challenge of this magnitude with stratagems, political calculations, cynicism, and half measures will not inspire voters; one that leads us toward a literal salvation, will.
blatham
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 10:01 am
This is, I think, very important
Quote:
In response to questions from reporters at the Daily Beast, all of the major Democratic campaigns have now pledged to refrain from using materials illicitly hacked and posted online, as happened in 2016. Not surprisingly, the Trump campaign is refusing to agree to this. That’s driving online discussion, but the more important development here is that Democrats have all agreed to it.

This hints at something bigger Democrats can do. As my Post colleague Josh Rogin reports, amid signs that Russia is gearing up for another sabotage effort, Joe Biden is now calling on the candidates and the Democratic National Committee and state parties to join in affirmatively signing a wide-ranging pledge not to aid and abet any such efforts.

The driving idea here: It must become a party-wide position to recognize the urgency of the threat that disinformation poses to our democracy, but also to liberal democracy writ large. To grasp this challenge, note that recent Senate Intelligence Committee reports detailed not just the astonishing reach of the 2016 Russian disinformation effort, but crucially, its goal of dividing the country along cultural, racial and ethnic lines.
WP
coldjoint
 
  -2  
Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 10:53 am
@blatham,

Quote:
This is, I think, very important

That means nothing.
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georgeob1
 
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Reply Fri 22 Feb, 2019 11:28 am
@blatham,
This is a little rich coming from the party of Clinton, whose campaign financed a hit piece on Trump through a former British Intelligence agent and his Russian sources, and subseq1uently through its moles in the FBI used this same piece to get unwarranted monitoring of Trump campaign communications.

It also may reflect lingering sensitivity on the part of the hapless DNC which ignored repeated FBI warnings of the vulnerability of their network and was itself hacked by Russians and perhaps others revealing its cynical campaign tactics.

The real laugh here arises from the notion that any political campaign would pass up the opportunity to exploit any embarrassing revelation about an opponent from whatever source it originated. Such pious promises are typical of organizations that wish to be judged by the supposed goodness of their intentions as opposed to what they actually do.

These vaunted "pledges" are merely words that mean nothing, However they are a good indicator of the contempt Democrat politicians have for the unwashed public they pretend to serve.
 

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