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@blatham,

It goes much further than that! The media coverage on Trump has been extensive these many years. That's the reason why we know of his bigotry, and how he was sued for not renting to blacks, and telling everybody Obama was not born in the USA for five years. It takes a psycho to see thousands of Muslims celebrating the destruction in NYC, and pushing the birther idea for five years. Voters ignored all that, and we now have a crisis in our country. I'm sure a good percentage of those 800,000 workers voted for Trump.

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@blatham,

blatham wrote:

I do think that the Dems' best hope is for a strong push towards progressive values and policies. I think it is electorally smart and morally correct.

I disagree on both counts. Oddly it is the left wing Democrats who have woven a Godless morality into their political doctrine. Very ironic.

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@georgeob1,

There's a thing called "separation of church and state." I agree with blatham. We have many different kinds of church in our country; no one church should be the sole influence for all Americans.

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@cicerone imposter,

You missed the point entirely.

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@georgeob1,

I doubt it. Progressive values is the issue being discussed.

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How do we persuade people who are so different? By assuring them that we share their values. “Values” need not be the anti-choice, anti-gay, anti-science mores of the right wing. In politics, they are ideals that describe the kind of society we are trying to build. There is a set of values that progressives can employ to frame public policy in language that will win over persuadable voters. And to those we are trying to reach, our values will sound very familiar: freedom, opportunity, security and responsibility.

"Freedom" also means freedom from religion.

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@georgeob1,

Dr King was not godless.

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What is all the fuss, it is almost over
Shocked

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Occasional-Cortex Thinks The ‘World’s Going To End In 12 Years’ Because Of ‘Climate Change’

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OCASIO-CORTEZ: And I think that the part of it that is generational is that millennials and people in, you know, Gen Z, and all these folks that come after us are looking up and we’re like, ‘the world is gonna end in 12 years if we don’t address climate change,’

https://clashdaily.com/2019/01/occasional-cortex-thinks-the-worlds-going-to-end-in-12-years-because-of-climate-change/

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@cicerone imposter,

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Progressive values

Do you have any idea what those are?

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@georgeob1,

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woven a Godless morality into their political doctrine.

Is it possible you've accepted the notion that codes of morality/ethics can only emerge from religious beliefs? (and perhaps only the Abrahamic faiths? or perhaps Christianity alone? or perhaps only a particular version of Christianity?). That will be a shock to anthropologists, sociologists, philosophers and everyone on earth who isn't such a believer (not to mention many believers who think this notion is self-evidently false).

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@cicerone imposter,

I know. It will be a while before the destruction this asshole/sociopath has wrought on the country.

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@coldjoint,

Ask Trump and the republican senate that question. Its they who seem to be worshiping Putin, not the democrats.

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@blatham,

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Is it possible you've accepted the notion that codes of morality/ethics...

can be changed to suit someones needs. You shouldn't even speak on these matters. It turns my stomach.

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@blatham,

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I know. It will be a while before the destruction this asshole/sociopath has wrought on the country.

We know, Canada has most likely been permanently trashed by Trudeau.

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@blatham,

You are misusing my statement. I made no reference to religion of any kind.

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@georgeob1,

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You are misusing my statement. I made no reference to religion of any kind.

Then what on Earth does your phrase "Godless morality" mean?

(ps... did you get my Newman gag earlier?)

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I am waiting for someone to tell me what progressive values are. Why can't anyone do it?

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@coldjoint,

152 pages and you haven't a clue. Razz

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@edgarblythe,

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152 pages and you haven't a clue. Razz

I have enough of a clue to know that what you want is unsustainable and dangerous to the freedom that the rest of the world relies on. It will surely destroy it. And it wont be back.

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@coldjoint,

That's exactly what I have been saying about the creeping corporate oligarchy. (enablers of Republicans, Trump, corporate Democrats)

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@edgarblythe,

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creeping corporate oligarchy

That is globalism you see, and your route is a much quicker way to get there.

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