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@hightor,

Michelle Alexander wrote:

Until very recently, the entire Congress has remained mostly silent on the human rights nightmare that has unfolded in the occupied territories.

There is no such thing as a right to murder Jews. When Jews defend themselves from people who try to murder them, that is not a human rights violation.

Michelle Alexander wrote:

practices reminiscent of apartheid in South Africa and Jim Crow segregation in the United States.

Antisemitism is so ugly.

Michelle Alexander wrote:

false charges of anti-Semitism.

Nothing is false about the charges. When people go around accusing Jews of imaginary atrocities, those people are rightfully labeled as antisemites.

Michelle Alexander wrote:

secret organizations like Canary Mission, which blacklists those who publicly dare to support boycotts against Israel, jeopardizing their employment prospects and future careers.

Cool! I've never heard of this before. It sounds like something that I want to contribute to.

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@hightor,

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If someone who considers themselves "independent" feels strongly enough toward a party candidate as to actually want to cast a vote for that candidate then I think the voter could be troubled to register in the appropriate political party. One can always return to being unenrolled at a later date.

I agree with you 100 percent.
I am a registered democrat.
I don't want anybody who is not a (registered) democrat voting in my party's primaries.
I also don't want anybody who is not a (registered) democrat running on my party's ticket.

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I wish to hell they'd restructure the whole primary system. No more caucuses — I like that.

I agree with you 100 percent.
I despise the very idea of having caucuses.

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@Real Music,

What's wrong with caucuses? I've never been to one, but they sound like they are fun.

But anyway, if the Democrats are set on reforming their primary system, how about paying reparations to Michigan for the 2008 presidential primary? It would be nice if I felt like I could vote for Democrats in general elections again.

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@Real Music,

In Texas you can vote in any primary you wish. Much more intelligent.

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@edgarblythe,

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In Texas you can vote in any primary you wish. Much more intelligent.

On this specific topic, I respectfully disagree with you.
I believe that would be (unfair) to the people who are actually registered as democrats.
Also on this specific topic, I respectfully disagree with your beliefs of (open) primaries being intelligent.

Some thing we agree on, but this we disagree on.

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@Real Music,

It's just a way to protect your favored candidate from competition.

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@edgarblythe,

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It's just a way to protect your favored candidate from competition.

I don't understand how you could come to that conclusion, considering the fact that anyone has the freedom to change their registration to democrat.

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@Real Music,

In Texas you don't have to register to vote D or R. That's known as being allowed to vote.

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@Real Music,

Democrats often argue for same-day voter registration because they don't think registration should be a barrier to voting.

If "being a registered Democrat" is to be required for participation in Democratic primaries, would you support same day registration for this?

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@edgarblythe,

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In Texas you don't have to register to vote D or R. That's known as being allowed to vote.

That may be the way Texas does it, but I wish they didn't do it that way.
In fact, I wish none of the states did it that way.

The states that do require you to register as a democrat does not prevent anyone from voting in the primaries. They simply say that you have to register with the party to be allowed to vote in the party's primary.
If someone chooses not to register as a democrat, that person is choosing not to be eligible to vote in the democratic party's primaries.

When you make the statement "That's known as being allowed to vote", I don't see how that applies.

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@oralloy,

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Democrats often argue for same-day voter registration because they don't think registration should be a barrier to voting.

If "being a registered Democrat" is to be required for participation in Democratic primaries, would you support same day registration for this?

I am perfectly fine with same day registration.
As far as I know, the democratic party is also fine with same day registration.

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@Real Music,

Real Music wrote:

I am perfectly fine with same day registration.

For people who are registering as Democrats in order to vote in a closed primary?

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@oralloy,

The republicans have the same "advantage."

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Well, we will have to disagree on the primaries. I consider it discrimination, but don't see a point in carrying on an argument about it.

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@oralloy,

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What's wrong with caucuses? I've never been to one, but they sound like they are fun.

I despise the very existence of caucuses.
https://able2know.org/topic/450478-1

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

If "being a registered Democrat" is to be required for participation in Democratic primaries, would you support same day registration for this?

Yes. Absolutely.

BUT, if a state doesn't (yet) have that rule, then it's no excuse for those who don't care enough to figure out how to vote in the primaries.

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@Real Music,

100% agreement

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@oralloy,

oralloy wrote:

What's wrong with caucuses? I've never been to one, but they sound like they are fun.

They DO sound fun. I've love to be in one.

Unfortunately they are very much anti-democratic (IMO). And exclusionary; if you can't afford to spend 3-6 hours in a caucus location you basically don't show up and are excluded from the process of selecting your primary candidate.

This is FAR WORSE than the registering for democratic or republican before voting in a primary issue.

I can't imagine the person who is for "open primaries" but is also for caucuses. Are there any of these people?

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I'm for allowing people to vote. I believe being registered should be automatic and that election day should be a national holiday. Don't like caucuses.

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