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Black Women Send Letter to Chuck Schumer and Nancy Pelosi in Support of Maxine Waters

 
 
Real Music
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 07:41 pm
'Auntie' Maxine Waters Is The Political Crush Of The Moment For Young Progressives.

Published: May 13, 2017·
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There's a famous story about how Lana Turner was discovered: sitting in a Hollywood drugstore, sipping a soda. Next thing you know, she's one of the most sought after "It" girls of the 1940s.

There may be some key details left out of that account, but one can assume, at least in theory, that it makes sense.

What doesn't necessarily make sense? The recent fever pitch over 78-year-old Rep. Maxine Waters, D-Calif., who has been adopted by a new generation as "Auntie Maxine."

Waters has spent more than four decades in public service but it's only now that she's become the political crush for young progressives. That's due to her fierce attacks of President Donald Trump and his new administration. While other politicians practice staid soundbites, Waters is extemporaneous and unpredictable. But usually her message is along the lines of "Impeach 45!"

That has made her deep raspy voice and withering facial expressions almost inescapable recently.

Although she's been a staple of cable news shows on CNN and MSNBC, Waters' popularity and reach have surpassed the traditional political audience and grabbed ahold of young left-leaning hearts and minds.

In the past month alone, she's appeared at the MTV Music Awards where she basked and curtsied in the roaring applause of a standing ovation that went on and on. She's been featured in the Huffington Post, Teen Vogue, Ebony and The Washington Post's "Cape Up" podcast.

But it was probably a January article by humor columnist R. Eric Thomas on Elle.com that catapulted the septuagenarian to stardom with the selfie-taking set and led to her new, familial nickname.

Apparently, Thomas, who has a Lana Turner story of his own — he was hired by the magazine after being discovered on Twitter — was home watching C-SPAN, when Waters serendipitously appeared on the screen.

Thomas had found a new muse.

If you haven't seen the performance that launched hundreds of thousands of tweets, take 30 seconds to watch the whole thing. But if you don't have the time, here's what you need to know: Waters had left an intelligence briefing with then-FBI Director James Comey. She was not pleased with what she had heard.

"Yes, can I help you? What do you want?" is how she addressed reporters.

Thomas can't help laughing as he recalls watching it unfold in real time. "I was like, 'Who is this person?'" he said, "She walks into a press conference like they're already on her last nerve."

He was delighted, flabbergasted and inspired and that led to this unforgettable paragraph:

"I have never seen anything like this outside of a family reunion. Rep. Waters is definitely that auntie who got rich selling Avon and doesn't really like your father. Or any of these low-rent people. But you sit by her so that she can stage-whisper critiques with a mouth full of potato salad."

So, technically, the words "Auntie Maxine" may never have been strung together by Thomas, but he takes full credit anyway.

"It's on my business card!" he bragged.

Asheya Warren is among Waters' legion of fans and says the congresswoman's frank style and "shade"-throwing skills are what appeal to her.

"It's the way she says what she says," Warren said. Older women like Waters get a pass to freely speak their minds, added the 30-year-old.

Once a woman is over 60, she said, "You're able to say whatever you want to, whenever you want to. My mom does it, her two sisters do it, my grandmother did it, and again, that's why that 'Auntie' moniker is so well received."

Waters is thrilled by it all.

"I am surprised and honored to be so enthusiastically supported by millennials," she said by phone from her office in Los Angeles.

She says millennials — though she may be a little generous with that designation — stop her on the street, at the mall and in restaurants, with the same cry. "Auntie Maxine! Oh my God, can I take a picture?" they squeal in excitement.

Waters recognizes she's filling a void left by today's professional politicians, who are sometimes afraid to state their genuine opinions fearing a backlash from constituents or the potential loss of their seat. "But I'm not afraid that," she said defiantly. "I will speak my mind."

And if that makes you want to call her "Auntie," be ready. She likes giving hugs.

https://www.npr.org/2017/05/13/528294333/auntie-maxine-waters-is-the-political-crush-of-the-moment-for-young-progressives
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Blickers
 
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Reply Sun 15 Jul, 2018 10:25 pm
@oralloy,
Quote oralloy:
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When pro-lifers begin organized stalking so that their opponents can never escape it, that will be a new experience for the left.

Just like when the Republicans blocked Obama's Supreme Court nominee, that was a new experience for the left.
Not a new experience at all. The Right has been stalking and worse for several decades. Here's a story from 2002:

Abortion "hit list" slammed in court
Antiabortion activists are found guilty of inciting violence by posting on the Net a list of physicians names that reads like a "wanted" poster.
January 2, 2002 4:43 PM PST



Antiabortion activists were found guilty today of inciting violence by posting on the Net a list of physicians names that reads like a "wanted" poster.

Planned Parenthood filed a lawsuit against the American Coalition of Life Activists and Advocates for Life Ministries in the U.S. District Court in Oregon, in an effort to deter sites like the Nuremberg Files, which lists contact information for more than 200 doctors and workers from abortion clinics around the country and calls for the "baby butchers" to be "brought to justice."

The more than 12 defendants in the case were ordered to pay $100 million in damages to abortion clinics and doctors. They had argued that they have a free speech right to publish details about the doctors, but after a three-week trial, an eight-person jury found that such sites were a "true threat" to physicians who perform abortions, according to the Planned Parenthood Columbia/Willamette (PPCW) in Portland.

"While the threat of anti-choice terrorism is not over, this verdict means that these extremists cannot hide behind the First Amendment when they advocate killing abortion providers," Lois Backus, executive director of PPCW, said in a statement.

The case surrounded not just Web sites, but the distribution of paper "wanted" posters that include the names of doctors that provide abortions, and in some cases their home addresses as well. The Nuremberg Files urges people to send "photos or videotapes of the abortionist, their car, their house, friends, and anything else of interest, as many and as recent as possible."

In some instances, the Nuremberg Files lists the names of the doctors' children and spouses. A handful of names on the list are crossed out to mark a "fatality," among them New York physician Dr. Barnett Slepian, who was killed in his kitchen by a sniper bullet in October.

Planned Parenthood Abortion clinic sues Compuserve cited the 1994 Freedom of Access to Clinic Entrances Act (FACE) in its lawsuit, which "makes it illegal to incite violence against abortion doctors and their patients," according to the Justice Department.

"Whether these threats are posted on trees or on the Internet, their intent and impact is the same: to threaten the lives of doctors who courageously serve women seeking to exercise their right to choose abortion," Gloria Feldt, president of Planned Parenthood Federation, said in a statement.

Added Roger Evans, cocounsel for the plaintiffs, "We will us this judgment to try to deny these people financial resources for any future dirty work."

Supporters of the Nuremberg Files contend that the site is not a hit list.

In a past interview, Rev. Donald Spitz, founder of Pro-Life Virginia, said the site was erected to keep a record of doctors who perform abortions, in case the day comes that they can be put to trial for "crimes against humanity." Spitz said also that he is not opposed to violence against these doctors, and has called death-row inmate Paul Hill a hero for murdering Florida abortion doctor John Bayard Britton and his escort Jim Barret.
CNET

Like I said, the Right has been stalking and murdering the Left for decades. Your threats are empty. The only thing that's changed is the Left is taking nonviolent confrontation to the Right, and the Right is worried.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 10:22 am
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Not a new experience at all. The Right has been stalking and worse for several decades. Here's a story from 2002:
That will be nothing compared to what it will be like when pro-lifers are able to prevent their targets from even going grocery shopping.

Blickers wrote:
Like I said, the Right has been stalking and murdering the Left for decades. Your threats are empty. The only thing that's changed is the Left is taking nonviolent confrontation to the Right, and the Right is worried.
If this tactic becomes acceptable, you'll realize why it is wrong when it starts being used against the left.
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 01:29 pm
@oralloy,
Stalking and murdering have already been used against the Left.

Quote oralloy:
Quote:
nothing compared to what it will be like when pro-lifers are able to prevent their targets from even going grocery shopping.
The Right has been putting their targets in a casket for decades, which more or less prevents them from grocery shopping already.

The Right is drawn to authoritarian power. When the Left starts getting confrotational, the righties won't know how to handle it.
CoastalRat
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 01:59 pm
I am confused by a number of things. Maybe it is because I believe most people are reasonable and I don't understand why they cannot maintain a consistent point of view. So just to give some pause to the back and forth, I would like to point out a couple of things.

1. Democrats, why is it not ok for a cake maker to refuse service because of someone's belief while it is ok for a food establishment to refuse service because of someone's beliefs?
2. Republicans, same question, just turn it around. Why is it ok for a cake maker to refuse service because of someone's belief while it is not ok for a food establishment to refuse service because of someone's beliefs?
3. Democrats, why is it ok for liberals to urge their followers to harass people who are out and about on their own time over their political beliefs? Seriously? Don't we have enough problems with the nut jobs who will do this type of stuff on their own?
4. Republicans, what was the problem with not beginning hearings on Obama's nominee? You do realize it may come back to bite you in the ass in the future. And if the nominee could not get out of committee, the nomination would have died. Why not go that route? At least rules would have been adhered to.

I could probably continue alternating here, but what is the point? Neither side will listen because both sides take an all or nothing attitude to everything. Nobody listens because we are no longer civil. To my democrat friends who rail against Trump and his attitude, he is the result of the country's polarization that has been growing for longer than I can remember. It was only a matter of time before one side or the other had a president who, quite frankly, is not very presidential in choosing his words. And why should he be? Very few others on either side seem to care about a discourse that does not include name calling and out and out lies. (Any dems willing to acknowledge that immigration policy of separating kids from adults was put in place by a democrat? Any republicans willing to acknowledge that the whole brouhaha over Obama's birth certificate was a political ploy with no real basis in fact?)

Anyway, here ends my once a year entrance to the political threads here on A2K. (Full disclosure, I am a conservative, republican who also is a devout Christian. But that does not keep me from telling it as I see it about both republicans and democrats.)

oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:16 pm
@Blickers,
Blickers wrote:
Stalking and murdering have already been used against the Left.
Only by isolated extremists who are then criminally prosecuted.

The left hasn't yet to face organized stalking encouraged by public leaders. And if this sort of tactic becomes acceptable behavior, there will be no prosecutions of the stalkers.

Blickers wrote:
When the Left starts getting confrotational, the righties won't know how to handle it.
But they do know how to handle it. They adopt the same tactics and use them against the left.
oralloy
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 02:23 pm
@CoastalRat,
CoastalRat wrote:
4. Republicans, what was the problem with not beginning hearings on Obama's nominee?
Although I'm not a Republican, I'd like to address this one.

The Republicans were merely getting revenge for the Democrats doing it to them first.

CoastalRat wrote:
You do realize it may come back to bite you in the ass in the future.
The Democrats were already doing it. Giving the Democrats a dose of their own medicine won't make things any worse for the Republicans.

CoastalRat wrote:
And if the nominee could not get out of committee, the nomination would have died. Why not go that route? At least rules would have been adhered to.
I do not believe that the Republicans broke any rules.
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 06:42 pm
@oralloy,
Quote Blickers:
Quote:
When the Left starts getting confrotational, the righties won't know how to handle it.


Quote oralloy:
Quote:
But they do know how to handle it. They adopt the same tactics and use them against the left.
They won't work against the Left. Ever see the picketers outside an abortion clinic? Most of them are over 80 years old. If the Right tries following around Democratic officeholders, after two blocks someone will have to call for an ambulance for the designated rightie confrontor.
Blickers
 
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Reply Mon 16 Jul, 2018 06:49 pm
@oralloy,
Quote Coastal Rat:
Quote:
And if the nominee could not get out of committee, the nomination would have died. Why not go that route? At least rules would have been adhered to.

Quote Oralloy:
Quote:
I do not believe that the Republicans broke any rules.
You believe wrongly. The Constitution, in Article II, Section II, Paragraph 2, says the Senate must advise and consent on the President's choice for public office. That requirement is fulfilled by talking about the nomination in the appropriate committee, a "floor vote", (a vote before the entire Senate), is not necessary. The Democrats debated all of Bush's nominees in committee, so the Constitution was satisfied. Merrick Garland's nomination was not even discussed in committee, rather Republican Majority Leader Mitch McConnell announced to the whole country that NO action-not committee debate, let alone alone any further action-will take place until after the election 11 months in the future. That goes against the Constitutional requirement for the Senate to "advise and consent" on the President's nominees for public office.
izzythepush
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 02:41 am
@CoastalRat,
CoastalRat wrote:

I am confused by a number of things. Maybe it is because I believe most people are reasonable and I don't understand why they cannot maintain a consistent point of view. So just to give some pause to the back and forth, I would like to point out a couple of things.

1. Democrats, why is it not ok for a cake maker to refuse service because of someone's belief while it is ok for a food establishment to refuse service because of someone's beliefs?


It's fairly obvious. People have no choice in being gay, like they have no choice in being born black or white. So refusing those people service is discriminatory no matter what disgusting belief system is used to justify that.

Sanders wasn't born lying about contacts with Russians and justifying shooting up schools and locking children in cages. She chose to be a repulsive Nazi piece of crap. Therefore it's perfectly acceptable to refuse such a creature service. It had a choice, it chose division and hate.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 05:11 am
@CoastalRat,
The cake maker and the restaurant owner were both out of line and had no right to single those people out for discrimination.

Anyone who urges harassment is partially liable for ensuing violence.

It is indefensible to hold up the nominating process on false pretenses.
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 09:00 am
@maxdancona,
maxdancona wrote:

For God's sake, Democrats! As good as it feels to throw mud... alienating the very people you need to win elections is an incredibly stupid political strategy.


You realize they are in a lose-lose situation right?

On the progressive side, if you don't throw mud then you are "caving in to the republicans; being republican-lite; not playing to the base."

On the more-moderate side, you get the criticisms that you're leveling now.

Lose-lose.
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maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 09:11 am
@oralloy,
Could the democrats have been giving Bush a dose of the medicine they received when Republicans blocked Bill Clinton's nominees?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_judicial_appointment_controversies

Seriously, you're being an idiot here.

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During President Bill Clinton's first and second terms of office, he nominated 24 people for 20 federal appellate judgeships but the nominees were not processed by the Republican-controlled Senate Judiciary Committee. Three of the nominees who were not processed (Christine Arguello, Andre M. Davis and S. Elizabeth Gibson) were nominated after July 1, 2000, the traditional start date of the unofficial Thurmond Rule during a presidential election year. Democrats claim that Senate Republicans of the 106th Congress purposely tried to keep open particular judgeships as a political maneuver to allow a future Republican president to fill them. Of the 20 seats in question, four were eventually filled with different Clinton nominees, fourteen were later filled with Republican nominees by President George W. Bush and two continued to stay open during Bush's presidency. Senator Harry Reid, the Democratic leader of the United States Senate during the 110th Congress, and Senator Patrick Leahy, the Democratic leader of the Senate Judiciary Committee under Reid, repeatedly mentioned the controversy over President Clinton's court of appeals nominees during the controversy involving the confirmation of Republican court of appeals nominees during the last two years of Bush's second term. Republicans claimed that Democrats were refusing to confirm certain longstanding Bush nominees in order to allow a future Democratic president in 2009 to fill those judgeships.

During his presidency, Clinton also nominated 45 people for 42 federal district judgeships who were never confirmed by the United States Senate.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 09:15 am
@CoastalRat,
CoastalRat wrote:
1. Democrats, why is it not ok for a cake maker to refuse service because of someone's belief while it is ok for a food establishment to refuse service because of someone's beliefs?


there is a difference between being born with a sexual orientation and choosing to behave badly.

maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 09:16 am
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:

Blickers wrote:
This is your idea of blocking a nomination? She gets confirmed a month after she's nominated,
OK so I guess she wasn't one of the many who were blocked. But there were many others who did get blocked, and that is what inspired the Republicans to block Obama's nominee to the Supreme Court.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

Always right and truthful my ASS.
Blickers
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 09:21 am
@CoastalRat,
Quote Coastal Rat:
1. Democrats, why is it not ok for a cake maker to refuse service because of someone's belief while it is ok for a food establishment to refuse service because of someone's beliefs?
Quote:

A. It is a bone of contention whether being gay is a belief or the natural inborn behavior of some people.

B. Sarah Huckabee Sanders was not asked to leave because she belonged to a group the owner did not think should exist. She was asked to leave because of her public actions that the owner found repulsive.

When the gay people walked into the bake shop, they were refused service because the owner thought people of their group had no right to get married.

The owner of the Red Hen was unconcerned with whether Huckabee-Sanders was married or not. She had publicly stuck up for something horrible to helpless children and their asylum-seeking mothers, and the owner of the private establishment wanted no part of anyone who would do that.

Now, if Trump fired Huckabee-Sanders and hired a homosexual to be his spokesperson and that spokesperson decided to buy a wedding cake for himself and his male fiance at a bakery, the baker can refuse service to him because of his position glorifying separating children from their asylum-seeking mothers. Just as the baker can refuse service to a heterosexual Trump spokesperson who wanted to buy a wedding cake for his heterosexual wedding.

See the difference? You can't refuse service to someone because of the group they belong to, you can refuse service to someone because of what they have publicly done.
CoastalRat
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 09:59 am
@ehBeth,
Quote:
there is a difference between being born with a sexual orientation and choosing to behave badly.
As far as I can tell, Ms. Sanders was not behaving badly. She was kicked out for being an employee of the Trump administration. Or maybe it was just because she was conservative. Or for her actions associated with her job in the administration.

As for sexual orientation, the customer's sexual orientation has little to do with the cake baker. He did not object (to my knowledge) to the fact that the couple was gay, he objected to making a wedding cake for the couple's marriage. In other words, as you put it above, for the activity of the customer (getting married) which he disagreed with. Had they come in and simply ordered a cake (birthday or whatever) he would have made it. A very tiny difference, but a difference that is meaningful in what I consider his right to refuse to make what was requested. And, as you notice, it was the action of choosing to behave badly (in the baker's opinion) as you so nicely put it in reference to Ms. Sanders that caused the refusal of service. NOT the fact that the customer was gay. Thus, no difference between the two cases. If you cannot see how these two cases are fundamentally the same, then we will simply have to acknowledge that we disagree. Which is not an inherently bad thing and certainly should not cause the world to stop spinning.

Have a good day ehBeth.

maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 10:03 am
@CoastalRat,
CoastalRat wrote:
Or for her actions associated with her job in the administration.


Bingo!

People can be denied service because of their actions. That is a valid reason to deny service in anyone's book I think. Even republicans.
CoastalRat
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 10:06 am
@Blickers,
Quote:
You can't refuse service to someone because of the group they belong to,
You can look at my response to ehBeth for fuller response to your post, but in a nutshell I will simply say that the gay couple were not refused service because of the group they belong to (I guess you mean that they were gay) but because the action they wanted to undertake (getting married) was inherently disagreeable to the baker. Seems the same to me. You may not see it that way, but that does not make you right. And my seeing it my way does not necessarily make me right.
maporsche
 
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Reply Tue 17 Jul, 2018 10:09 am
@CoastalRat,
CoastalRat wrote:

Quote:
You can't refuse service to someone because of the group they belong to,
You can look at my response to ehBeth for fuller response to your post, but in a nutshell I will simply say that the gay couple were not refused service because of the group they belong to (I guess you mean that they were gay) but because the action they wanted to undertake (getting married) was inherently disagreeable to the baker. Seems the same to me. You may not see it that way, but that does not make you right. And my seeing it my way does not necessarily make me right.


I think the difference may be that there are protected classes in states and nationally and that part of the agreement to start a business means to follow the laws in those states...which includes things like sexual orientation, gender, race, age, etc.
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