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Relationship ended - Help!

 
 
Montana
 
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Reply Thu 3 Feb, 2005 04:36 pm
Thank you for your ever so kind thoughts MMS.

Well then, I will lift my glass and make a toast to you both :-D

Cheers!!!
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Shakira 2005
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 01:24 am
Jee thanks guy for making me feel better. I don't think I was that bad...

Anyways, I asked you guys to help me get him back...your reply backs were different.
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almach1
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 02:53 am
Shakira_2005 wrote:
Jee thanks guy for making me feel better. I don't think I was that bad...

Anyways, I asked you guys to help me get him back...your reply backs were different.
Your asking us to figure out ways to get you your slave back. I don't have any advice for that, but my advice to you is, Get a life outside of your boyfriend. As a man, i would not want a girl who is always waiting for me for conversation material every five minutes.
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Bella Dea
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 07:42 am
Shakira_2005 wrote:
Jee thanks guy for making me feel better. I don't think I was that bad...

Anyways, I asked you guys to help me get him back...your reply backs were different.


Tie him up and lock him in your closet.
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 08:01 am
Shakira_2005 wrote:
Jee thanks guy for making me feel better. I don't think I was that bad...

Anyways, I asked you guys to help me get him back...your reply backs were different.


Shakira
Some of us may have replied a bit harshly, but that's because you need to hear it to correct it. We don't know if you'll ever get him back, since we don't have magic sollutions for that, but what we were trying to do is to get you to see why you lost him in the first place, so you won't make the same mistake again. You have the kindest bunch of people here, believe it or not, and we are simply trying to get you to see things for what they are.
Before you get into another relationship, you need to do a lot of work on yourself. Take some time to think about where things went wrong and learn from it. Hey, we all make mistakes in life and that's ok as long as you learn from them. I believe that our mistakes teach us to be better people. Through my life I've learned that the only person I can truly depend on is myself. When I'm upset about something and need to talk with someone and no one is around, I jump on my computer and talk with whoever of my internet friends that are around. Before I had a computer, I kept a journal to write down my feelings. Writing your feelings down helps a lot, since you can go back and read what you wrote and change things about yourself that you think should be changed. This worked wonders for me and that's why I told you to go back and read what you wrote.
I know you're angry and feeling like lashing out and this is the perfect time to take a step back and do some soul searching. Before you can be happy with anyone, you have learn to be happy with yourself. Happiness is something we all have to work on and it's all right there within ourselves.
Take some time alone, so you can think about things more clearly. Pamper yourself with bubble baths, doing your nails, hair and curl up with a good book. I personally need that time out time to pamper myself on a regular bases and take the time to think about things in my life that I could improve and this is what keeps me happy and content with myself.
When I'm angry, especially, I first write about it or talk to a friend to get it off my chest and I head strait for pamering myself.
I'll run a nice bubble bath with candle light and when I'm done with that I go to my room where I can be alone and do my hair, nails, and all that fun stuff. Then I'll either work on some of my crafts or just curl up with a romance novel. The next thing you know, I'm as good as new. Give it try and see what happens, but make sure you tell everyone at home that you would like some alone time, so you won't have any distractions.
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makemeshiver33
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 03:09 pm
Well Said Montana...you go girl!
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Montana
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 03:32 pm
Thank ye, sister friend ;-)
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BorisKitten
 
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Reply Fri 4 Feb, 2005 09:34 pm
You know Montana, even if your words didn't help Shakira tonight, they've really helped me. It's so comforting to read the words of a woman who knows how to make her own self happy. Reading your post was like a refresher course in self-therapy.

Shakira, you know, men like us better when we leave them be for a time and do the things we like to do alone, or with other people. They also like us better when we actually try (and hard!) to be nice to them all the time.

I'm saddened that so many young women find it difficult to be kind or patient with their lovers. Shakira, if it's any comfort to you, you're only one of many.
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 01:08 am
BK
Thank you very much. It's refreshing to know that I have helped someone :-D
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Lady J
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 01:47 am
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You sound like a very angry young lady and no one is going to put up with your abuse, so I suggest you pull your head out of your ass before you turn around one day to find no one there.


Oh my gosh, Montana Girl!! I don't think I have ever heard you talk like that before! You go girl! Smile Smile

And Shakira...you better listen up to these wise folks. The advice they give is priceless!!!
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 02:48 am
Shakira
I've decided to respond to your post one thing at a time, so you'll understand the things you should be looking to change about yourself for your own well being. I know you're hurting, but there are ways to prevent that in the future.


Shakira wrote:
Ok, this is going to be really long. I started going out with this guy (Nikhil) 7 months ago but we broke up 2 weeks ago(January). The thing that happened is that we never got a long from the beginning but some how I got emotionally & physically attached to him. He loved me a lot as well, he did everything he could to make me happy but I still complained a lot because he could never do anything right.


Saying he doesn't do anything right must make him feel lousy. I know I'll feel pretty crappy is someone that loved me said this to me. Words can hurt terribly when you love someone.


Shakira wrote:
I always had a problem with him not calling me on time but he always tried. He still messed up a lot of times, like sometimes he would get so busy that he would forget to call me and I always had to wait for him to call. Sometimes he didn't have a reason for not calling, he would just not want to?


You are making a big deal out of waiting for him to call, but you also know how busy he is and you know always tried. Instead of waiting around the phone, knowing he may not have time to call, do something else. This would be a good time to do that pampering of yourself I mentioned before. Sitting by a phone waiting for it to ring can be very frustrating, so don't do that.


Shakira wrote:
He would fall asleep on me. When I got mad about it he apologized and he said that he loves me a lot.


Now, why would you get mad because he fell asleep on you? He was obviously tired and that's what we all do when we're tired. A little understanding goes a long way.


Shakira wrote:
The relationship wasn't turning out to be the way I wanted but I dunno whenever I met him or talked to him for longer than an hr on the phone everything just seemed right. But the problem was he got sick of me getting upset over little things.


You said the relationship wasn't turning out the way you wanted, but you never mention what he might want. A relationship is about two people and that's the first thing you have to keep in mind. Of course he's getting tired of you getting upset over little things, just like anyone would. Put yourself in his shoes and ask yourself how you would feel if someone you loved was always upset with you. That would kinda suck, wouldn't it?



Shakira wrote:
Also, we got into a lot of arguments, almost every week but we some how always ended up making up and getting along well. Although, I always told him to go away, like I would tell him that I dont need him anymore and he should leave me but he never did, we always found a way to work things out. But last month(December) I told him to leave me alone and I want to break up and he actually left.


Well, of course he left. You were playing mind games with him to see how far you could push him and now you know. I'm sure that in your mind you were testing him to see how much he really loved you by seeing how much crap he'd put up with and that was a huge mistake on your part. Can you imagine someone you love doing this to you all the time? He must have been so hurt every time you did this and you need to put yourself in his shoes to understand what you were putting him through.



Shakira wrote:
He stopped calling me or taking my calls.


Well, yeah!!!!


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I kept calling him and leaving messages. He got so pissed at me because I told him I don't like him right before his exams, he couldn't concentrate so in order to concentrate he completely ignored me till his exams got done. He told me he needs a 2 weeks break. So, he came back and asked me what I wanted, how I feel about him and of course I told him I want him back but sadly he didn't feel the same way about me.


Of course he doesn't feel the same way about you anymore and you have no one to blame but yourself. I use to love my ex, but after he started abusing me, my feelings for him changed dramatically until I no longer wanted to be with him. He's only human.



Shekira wrote:
His exacts word were "I don't think I want to be with you" but some how I convinced him to be with me and I told him that everything will work out between us and I'll try to be more nicer and accept him the way he is(not complain when he doesn't call or doesn't have time to meet me). So, we were talking on msn once and I told him to come and meet me, so he did. We totally made out in the car and we did a lot of other things. The next day he tells me "I don't think we should be together because our relationship is physical" In a way, it's true we usually make out when we're together. We don't do anything besides that. Like, we don't go out to see a movie or go out to eat. For the past 7 months all we did was make out. But he didn't have a problem with that before but now he said he wants more out of a relationship. So, I said ok to him and we broke up then I couldn't stay without him so I told him to come back to me again and he came back but I dunno the feeling wasn't there anymore. I felt like he wasn't interested in me in at all..and things between were not ok at all, he preferred hanging out with his friends more than me.


He obviously has feelings for you because he came back, but the damage has already been done and he's realizing that his feelings for you will never be the same. When he said "he wants more out of a relationship", he's saying that he needs the emotional aspect of the relationship to be as solid as the physical one. The emotional well being of a relationship is the most important part of a relationship and that means having compassion, patience, and understanding of eachother.




Shakira wrote:
We needed to talk more and hangout more because we broke up for a week, we needed to get things back to normal but I dunno, he said that he ignored his friend for the past 3 months and he doesn't feel like doing that anymore. He's just making up to them..but didn't he care about us? What about us? Our relationship was on loose strings. So, I was ok with it until he started hanging out with them everyday and wouldn't call me at all. He would only call to let me know that he's going to be with his friends and he won't be able to call me.


Can you blame him. I'm sure he's having a good time with his friends where he can be himself without being judged. Atleast he called you to tell you he was with his friends. You could have taken this time to hang out with your friends ;-)



Shakira wrote:
So, obviously, I started complaining and this one time I told him to come and meet me and he said he was busy and I told him that couldn't he make it? And he was like ok, I'll be there. Then he didn't show up!! He called after 40 mins to let me know that he won't be able to come.



There's the complaining again! I'm assuming he didn't show up because he knew that all you were going to do was complain.




Shakira wrote:
Okay, Icome from an Indian family and it's hard for me to tell my parents that I'm going out late at night, they're not ok with me having a boyfriend. So, I got really pissed at him for that and he was like...sorry and it seemed like that's all he has been saying for the past 2 weeks..sorry for everything.


And here we are pissed off again. Of course all he's been saying is "sorry", because all you've done so far is critisize him.



Shakira wrote:
So, I got mad at him, in a way I over-reacted but I told him that the reason I over reacted at night. The reason was that things have not been ok between us and he's not willing to take time out for me and I feel like he's gonna break up with me again and all he said was "Just leave me alone for a bit" And then I didn't get any calls from him after that.



Getting mad at him because you're afraid he's going to break up with you is not going to send him running into your open arms, Shakira. You need to work on your anger issues and realize that you can't always get what "you" want. People need room to breath and you were totally smothering him.




Shakira wrote:
His phone's deal ended as well so I couldn't call him and he was not on hotmail or yahoo. I cried and cried, I didn't email him cuz he wanted to be alone. I waited till my exams were done and then I finally emailed him and his email was "Hey, the reason I didn't email u was because I thought you over reacted that day when Ididn't come to meet you and I wasn't listening to you when you were talking(the night I told him why I overeacted). n yea, i don't think we should be together ebcause nothing is going to change between us so we're better off breaking up" I never emailed him back cuz I was heartbroken, I couldn't believe that a guy who once said he loves me more than his life could say that to me.


I'm surprised that you didn't see it coming. You told him you were going to change and you didn't, so he finally realized this and decided he had enough. You can't believe that someone who said he loves you could say that to you, but you said you loved him and look at how you treated him.



Shakira wrote:
So, I decided not to reply back but I saw him on Yahoo and I messaged him and he said that he was sick of my constant nagging and that he didn't want to be with anymore after that phone call of mines but he just wanted to wait till I was done with my exams cuz he didn't want to disturb me. So, I was like ok..and I mentioned how many times he hurt me and he said that once he loved me m ore than anything but when he didn't get the love he wanted he stopped liking me!


Of course! Wouldn't you stop liking someone who was constatly nagging at you?


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So, after that day he never came back on yahoo again. I miss him like crazy and I really really want him back!! I dunno what to do, I can't force him to be with me but I want him back. I dunno how to get him back. I don't think he's going to listen to me.



Of course he's not going to listen to you! Why should he? You promised him you'd change and stop getting angry with him all the time and you didn't follow through, so he can't trust your word.


Shakira wrote:
Anyhoo, he's talking to his ex friend again(internet gf). I saw her little message on a website. He is registered on some website and she left a testimonial there so I'm sure they're talking back again. He only stopped talkin to her because I didn't like it. That girl is going out with his bestfriend, so I dunno if anything is going on between my ex and her. Anyways, I really want him back I dunno how to get him back..I can't tell him to come bak to me again, he completely ignores me. He deleted me off his msn list and yahoo.


I know I'd get the messege and back off. He's had enough.



Shakira wrote:
But I'm gonna see him soon in this party, is there anyway this relationship could work out?


No! You have already blown it with him and I know I wouldn't go back to you.


Shakira wrote:
I don't wanna talk to him again about working things out but is there a way I couldmake him realize that we should be back together?


No! You've said this before and you blew it.



Shakira wrote:
Please please help me out. You can see by my post that I'm really sad and upset. I can't believe he's not in my life anymore. So please please..help me. Oh yea, btw, he's 2 yrs older than me. He's in college and this is my last yr in hs(I'm 17). Actually, I graduated already. I graduated early and I miss him more than ever now.


I know you're upset and that you miss him, but when you truly love someone, you have to set them free.

Get on with your life and try to take this as one of lifes hard lessons. The pain you're feeling now will pass in time, I promise you that. In the mean time, go out and have a good time with your friends and take some alone time for yourself to stop and think about making positive changes in your life. Don't completely revolve your life around anyone else and don't expect anyone to revolve themselves around you. Don't wait around for others to make you happy, when you're the only one who has the power to make you happy.
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 02:56 am
Lady J wrote:
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You sound like a very angry young lady and no one is going to put up with your abuse, so I suggest you pull your head out of your ass before you turn around one day to find no one there.


Oh my gosh, Montana Girl!! I don't think I have ever heard you talk like that before! You go girl! Smile Smile

And Shakira...you better listen up to these wise folks. The advice they give is priceless!!!


That's Lady J :-D

I'm usually pretty much on the mellow side, but I do have my moments ;-)
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 03:35 am
Ok, now for your response to me.

Shakira wrote:
Excuse me, the reason I was mean to him because he wasn't willing to do anything right and last yr, I stopped liking him but he loved me a lot so I had to stick with him, I tried understanding him and his problems, but sometimes I couldn't that.


You said he wasn't doing anything right, but from what I've seen of your origiona post, your idea of right is not the same as mine. You wanted him there at your beck and call and since he wasn't, this was just not right to you. If you didn't like him, then there's no reason why you "had" to stick with him.


Shakira wrote:
He wouldn't call at all, for a day?


Oh my goodness! That must have been devistating! Shocked I don't mean to be mean, Shakira, but doesn't that sound silly?


Shakira wrote:
Someone who tells you he loves you more than anything should be able to do that.


Wrong! You said he was in college, so obviously he has to focus on his studies. College is much harder than high school and he needs to make that his #1 priority. Even if he wasn't in college, the guy needs his space, just like all we mortal humans do.


Shakira wrote:
Afterwards, I gave up and started loving him the way he is but I still complained when I got hurt and I think I have the right to do that. I'm not going to shut up when I'm getting hurt.


The problem is you're letting little petty stuff hurt you and that problem lies within yourself, not him.


Shakira wrote:
I know the world doesn't revolve around me but when I need someone that person should be there for me and when he's not, I get hurt.


Can you see how selfish that sounds?


Shakira wrote:
And whenever I needed to talk to him, he wasn't around. I always had to wait till he calls to tell him how I am and usually by then I told someone else my problem and I'm over it, so he never got to share what I was going through or who I really am.


So what? You talked your feelings out with your friends and got everything off your chest, so what's the problem?


Shakira wrote:
He called late at night 12-1am and I was sleepy by then so we couldn't even have a normal conversation. After the break we had in December, he usually called at 3 in the morning when he was done hanging out with his friends and I hated that, but I still told him to call me because that was the ONLY time we could talk or else the next day the same thing would happen and we would never get to talk.


Oh well!!! You told him it was ok to call at that time, so it's all good as far as he's concerned.


Shakira
I'm not trying to be mean and everyone here that knows me can tell you that. I'm simply trying to get you to open your eyes a bit and realize that you are being very self centered and that will never work in your favor. This will only make your life self distructive and you will constantly end up defeating your own purpose.
What you need to do is change your way of thinking to help yourself deal with the little things that make you angry. You need to train yourself to be more patient and understanding because life is too short to spend it being angry all the time. You owe it to yourself because your own anger will hurt you much more than it will anyone. Enjoy your life and don't waste one more minute sweating the little stuff.
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almach1
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 03:42 am
I actually know one guy that has a girlfriend like this girl. Almost exactly the same. His cell phone always better be turned on, and he must always answer it. I'm friends with the girl actually not him. He is her slave 24/7, brings her food (he pays for) and then she tells him to leave. I tell her that it's messed up she treats him like that. She's says that she loves him because nobody else puts up with her bullshait like he does. She constantly says that it his choice to stay with her, so it's not her fault he is willing. I just feel like guys like that ruin those girls for life, cause after going out with a guy like that, she will always find other normal guys inaquedate.
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Eva
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 06:23 am
Sick relationships...really sick.

Thank God this girl is only 17. Perhaps she will learn from this and straighten herself out before she grows up and is ready for an adult relationship. One can hope.

God, I wouldn't be 17 again for anything in the world. We all had to go through insane relationships to figure out what is right, though, didn't we?
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 10:49 am
Yeah, that's pretty bad. I don't understand how anyone can treat people this way!

Eva
Actually when I was 17 it was the best time of my life. I met the the first man who ever swept me of my feet and spent 2 wonderful years with him. I just talked with him not too long ago and I still get butterflies. The best guys I was ever with in my life were when I was in my teens :-D For some reason, after I turned 20, all the choices I made in boyfriends were bad ones. very, very bad ones, sigh!
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Eva
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 12:00 pm
I fell in love for the first time at 17. He was a great guy, and he treated me like gold. In fact, he treated me better than I treated him. I went through all the typical immature stuff with him, then with a couple more, before I finally figured out how it's supposed to work. I'm sorry to hear you haven't met anyone worth your time for such a long time, Montana. But I'd be willing to bet that if a good one came along now, you'd recognize it, and you'd know how to treat them.

You know how it goes...wisdom comes from experience, and experience comes from mistakes.
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Montana
 
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Reply Sat 5 Feb, 2005 12:35 pm
For some reason, I always knew how to treat a guy. It just comes natural to me. The love of my life and I broke up only because we were simply going in different directions in life and wanted different things and the brake up was mutual. We never argued about anything and everyone thought that we'd spend the rest of our lives together. I also thought that for the first year and since he asked me to marry him. I thought it was a done deal. Eventually, we realized that were were differnt in far to many ways for it to work. He's a hunter and you know how I feel about that. I wanted a career, while he didn't want his wife to work. I am a worldly person who has interests coming out of my ears, while he is a very simple guy whos interests are very limited to hunting, fishing, and electronics. He's a gorgeous, kind, sweet loving man to this day, but it ended up getting boring for both of us. It was a very civil break up and there will always be a special place in my heart for him. Neither one of us have ever married and 22 years later, I still miss him.

I'm not sure where I went wrong, but after Mark (the nice guy) and I broke up, I haven't made one good choice in men since. I think it was a self esteme issue at the time, but I've learned a lot of hard lessons in life and if the right guy does come along, then you're absolutely right, Eva, I will recognize it ;-)
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Lady J
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2005 08:36 am
Montana wrote:
Lady J wrote:
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You sound like a very angry young lady and no one is going to put up with your abuse, so I suggest you pull your head out of your ass before you turn around one day to find no one there.


Oh my gosh, Montana Girl!! I don't think I have ever heard you talk like that before! You go girl! Smile Smile

And Shakira...you better listen up to these wise folks. The advice they give is priceless!!!


That's Lady J :-D

I'm usually pretty much on the mellow side, but I do have my moments ;-)


It's so good to see you, Montana! We just may have to get James to bring the horses out of the stall soon... Smile
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Montana
 
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Reply Sun 6 Feb, 2005 08:53 am
Funny you should mention that Lady J, as I'm headed out in a few hours to go on a sleigh ride.
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