Faux News Blindsided

It sounds shitty. That's very damn serious to be snarking about cavalierly on a message board.
If you were going, I wouldn't dream of saying that to you. When you are adversarial, the intent is clear.

She said she was sincere. Drop it, you guys are projecting again.

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Ted Turner is not what you might called thrilled with the surge of Fox News Channel in the cable television ratings. After all, CNN is Ted's baby. I can remember many, many moons ago sitting with Ted Turner at a private lunch at the Commerce Club in downtown Atlanta. At that time, the early 70's I think, I was hosting a television show on Turner's WTBS. Turner sat there at lunch and told me of his plans for a cable television news service. I nodded politely and tried to keep my elbows off the table. Little did I know the level of success that Turner would achieve with his dream. Now that success is sullied by the growing popularity of Fox News Channel ... and Ted is torqued, and Ted felt the need to go on the attack against Fox News. So, attack Ted did ... at the National Association for Television Programming Executives meeting in Las Vegas.

In attacking Fox News I suspect Ted is faced with the same problem that my more liberal listeners have faced for the entirety of 2004. In January of 2004 I challenged my listeners to watch Fox News carefully and to call my show with any evidence of any right-wing bias in the presentation of news stories on any Fox News program. Obviously you will find bias on the opinion programs, that's to be expected. But my challenge dealt with the presentation of actual news stories. Well, the entire year went by with repeated goading from me, and not one listener ever made one phone call or sent one email which illustrated even one instance of right wing bias in the presentation of news stories on the Fox News Channel. Not one. Turner faces a similar dilemma. He has no examples either, so what does he do? He does exactly what our friend Steve did! He goes the "Nazi" route! Yesterday Ted Turner was out there in front of God and all those people comparing the Fox News Channel, and it's superior ratings, to Hitler! Yeah, Ted says, Hitler was popular with the people too! So, Ted Turner is comparing people who watch Fox News Channel instead of CNN to the people who put Hitler in power in Germany! I particularly like the response to Ted's tirade from the Fox News Channel spokesman: "Ted Turner is understandably bitter having lost his ratings, his network and now his mind. We wish him well."

Ticomaya wrote:

Thanks for clarifying that, Cinnesthesia. I'm sure you realize how someone could take what you said the wrong way. How would it sound if you, for instance, were to write a letter to all of the soldiers over in Iraq in which you said: "I hope your babies don't lose their Daddy over there." Do you see why some would believe that to not be an appropriate message?

While it can be sincere, it can also be a political snipe, as Lash pointed out. Her point is that when it is delivered in the midst of an "adversarial" discussion, the intent seems to be the latter. Your "rolling eyes smilies" in your immediately prior post certainly could call into question the sincerity of your sentiment.

This is why I generally avoid the political topics at A2K- Conservatives who take pleasure in trying to read between the lines to make accusations, pick fights, further their own agendas, pontificate sanctimoniously. .....big snore...

I hope your babies don't lose their Daddy over there.

When a sentiment like this is given within the context of a bullsh*t war, it is with a fervent hope from those of us on the left that our fighting men and women DO return home safely, for what are they truly fighting for over there in Iraq?

When you have soldiers continuously questioning this fake war, and when you have soldiers defecting, committing suicide, shooting themselves in the foot, 1/3rd coming home with severe mental problems, being poorly trained and poorly equipped, then it is Cinnesthesia's heartfelt sentiment that rings truer than ever.

We sincerely support our troops, but we are adamantly against this corrupt and criminal administration for sending our men and women into a war based on lies, and by men who NEVER SERVED IN COMBAT.

It's not only sad, but profoudly pathetic that neocons fail to understand this.

And as far as the topic of this original post is concerned, Fox news got what they deserved, as they demonstrated their usual tendencies in skewing the news to fit their rightwing nutjob agenda.

God knows, I do not normally agree with Lash. Most of you know I'm a flaming liberal.

I sincerely do not wish to offend anyone, though I probably will offend many with my next statement but I think it needs to be said. I think it is disingenous to say Cinnesthesia's comment was not meant to hurt. I was very surprised when I read it and realized there must be a lot more bad blood here then I knew about.

If you have a "fervent wish for them to come home alive" then say that. Or say, "Stay safe" if you cannot morally say "Good luck."

I would be extremely offended if anyone said to me... I hope your son comes back alive, just as I would be shocked if I were having a baby and someone said, "I hope you don't die in childbirth" or "I hope the baby is born alive."

The damage done by words said in anger is rarely worth the satisfaction of having said them. And if you do say words in anger and mean them -- then don't back down. We liberals have to quit being passive-aggressive.

The damage done by words said in anger is rarely worth the satisfaction of having said them. And if you do say words in anger and mean them -- then don't back down. We liberals have to quit being passive-aggressive.

please name these anti war folks who try to demoralize our troops and give specific examples as well...SPECIFIC examples please...specific meaning examples that ar so crystal clear they cannot be left open to interpretaion....thanks...