Are You Watching Any Of The Inauguration?

Even now you don't make any sense. Sovereignty has nothing to do with what you're saying. Look at your original question again, and this time, actually try to think about what you said. Words have meanings for a reason. It makes it easier to discuss things rationally when you use them correctly. His argument was that Iraq was a sovereign nation. You have not disputed this. You have just ranted about thugs and killers, which was not in any way related to what dookie said.

If you can't see this, then by all means, go on making an ass of yourself.

and I will again ask...when were we appointed, and who appointed us to decide the destiny of another nation...be that destiny good or evil?

kickycan wrote:

Even now you don't make any sense. Sovereignty has nothing to do with what you're saying. Look at your original question again, and this time, actually try to think about what you said. Words have meanings for a reason. It makes it easier to discuss things rationally when you use them correctly. His argument was that Iraq was a sovereign nation. You have not disputed this. You have just ranted about thugs and killers, which was not in any way related to what dookie said.

If you can't see this, then by all means, go on making an ass of yourself.

The reason why it is generally thought of as a serious matter to invade a sovereign nation is that the word sovereign indicates that the nation is independent or autonomous and able to determine its own destiny, and you, by invading, are removing that right to self-determination. However, as I keep pointing out, such a concern is ridiculous in this case since it was not the people who were exercising independence or autonomy, but a group of people who were suppressing the citizens by force. Now that it's spoonfed to you, do you get it?

Brandon9000 wrote:

kickycan wrote:

Even now you don't make any sense. Sovereignty has nothing to do with what you're saying. Look at your original question again, and this time, actually try to think about what you said. Words have meanings for a reason. It makes it easier to discuss things rationally when you use them correctly. His argument was that Iraq was a sovereign nation. You have not disputed this. You have just ranted about thugs and killers, which was not in any way related to what dookie said.

If you can't see this, then by all means, go on making an ass of yourself.

The reason why it is generally thought of as a serious matter to invade a sovereign nation is that the word sovereign indicates that the nation is independent or autonomous and able to determine its own destiny, and you, by invading, are removing that right to self-determination. However, as I keep pointing out, such a concern is ridiculous in this case since it was not the people who were exercising independence or autonomy, but a group of people who were suppressing the citizens by force. Now that it's spoonfed to you, do you get it?

Yes, finally I get it. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. Thank you for clarifying!

If we choose to deploy our arsenal of nuclear weapons...which we have hinted at before and in fact done...millions would die so who decided we can possess this power but no one else can?

And ANY other country who possesses WMD's has the power to kill millions should they choose to. So according to your litmus test we are duty bound to go to war with Britain, Russia, China, France, Israel, and any other number of countries.

And you still haven't told me who gave us our rights to judge who may possess weapons and who may not....is it your contention that we are chosen of and by God Almighty for this role?

and I will again ask...when were we appointed, and who appointed us to decide the destiny of another nation...be that destiny good or evil?

I've already done so, Brandon. I'm sick of going in circles with you for the moment. I'll respond again when you actually say something that has meaning beyong what you've made up in your head.

kickycan wrote:

I've already done so, Brandon. I'm sick of going in circles with you for the moment. I'll respond again when you actually say something that has meaning beyong what you've made up in your head.

Yes, how dare I make up my opinions in my head!

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

and I will again ask...when were we appointed, and who appointed us to decide the destiny of another nation...be that destiny good or evil?

I wouldn't hesitate to appoint myself to interfere with destiny of a rape victim who was in the process of being raped and I'm rather glad my country has done the same. I would neither seek approval from, nor recognize the objections of the onlookers who preferred to allow the rape to continue.

and who made us the last word on who is at this evil end of the spectrum? Why do you avoid the question? Everyone has a right to self preservation...so following your logic then everyone has a right to decide who is evil and needs to be prevented from possessing these weapons therefore those who define America that way are just as correct ans justified as we are.

We aren't the good guys we're just the baddest asses on the block at this particular time in history. That won't last.

Brandon9000 wrote:

kickycan wrote:

I've already done so, Brandon. I'm sick of going in circles with you for the moment. I'll respond again when you actually say something that has meaning beyong what you've made up in your head.

Yes, how dare I make up my opinions in my head!

Change that from "opinions" to "definitions" and you've got it.

so based on our history...took money from King George...financed the settling of the country...then dumped tea in the harbor and told George to stick it up his ass and started a bloody revolutionary war and just TOOK what we wanted.....slaughtered, raped, displaced and practically annihilated the Native population and still are f*#king them over today, had a Civil War because we couldn't decide whether or not it was okay to own black people and then took a hundred years after that to even let them sit in front of a bus and piss in the same urinal as white people...let's see what else more violent gun crime than anyone other "civilized" country, the most uneducated and unaware kids of any "civilized' country....the only country to drop a nuclear bomb on the general population of any other nation....what exactly is it that qualifies us and places us above anyone else?

Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

so based on our history...took money from King George...financed the settling of the country...then dumped tea in the harbor and told George to stick it up his ass and started a bloody revolutionary war and just TOOK what we wanted.....slaughtered, raped, displaced and practically annihilated the Native population and still are f*#king them over today, had a Civil War because we couldn't decide whether or not it was okay to own black people and then took a hundred years after that to even let them sit in front of a bus and piss in the same urinal as white people...let's see what else more violent gun crime than anyone other "civilized" country, the most uneducated and unaware kids of any "civilized' country....the only country to drop a nuclear bomb on the general population of any other nation....what exactly is it that qualifies us and places us above anyone else?

When exactly did you begin to hate America? Did it happen "all of a sudden," or was it more gradual?