Why does the Bible Exist?

. . . in Gods eyes there is no such thing as a good person!

The Bible is no prop.. that I'm not going to argue.
Edit.. oops.. actually I think the idea of being a prop may not be that inaccurate.

The Bible is no prop.. that I'm not going to argue.
Edit.. oops.. actually I think the idea of being a prop may not be that inaccurate.

Are you pro-slavery, or anti-slavery? The Bible was used by both sides. The New Testament clearly says that slaves should willingly obey their masters, and the Old Testament supports slavery as well for the people of God.

And do you think the American Revolution should have happened? In the Bible there are direct commands to not rebel against your King.

The fact is that the Bible can be used by anyone to support any political or moral belief... and it has been.

It does seem to serve as an all-purpose justifier. If you think it's good to love your neighbor, it's in there. If you think it's good to condemn gays, it's in there. If you think witches should be killed, it's in there.

chai2 wrote:

Really?

The most simple stories and concepts are going to be the ones most people latch onto.

The bible exists because so many people need something to follow, rather than forging their own path.

Even if you leave out the atrocities, killings, rape, dietary, dress restrictions etc. and leave the "good or useful" parts, it's no more than some common sense on how to treat others.

No.. there's something else..

You're going to have to make a point and finish your thought before I can address it.

The idea of slavery has been perverted through time. There was a time people were taken to incorporate.

Glennn wrote:

You're going to have to make a point and finish your thought before I can address it.

Exactly.

From the start, his statement that the bible is the "most influential" book in Western society is just another example of wishing on that invisible cosmic birthday cake.

Nice disclaimer....Well, I can't be specific, there's just "something" there.

I've said this before, and I'll state my personal opinion again.

The bible is one of the biggest pieces of crap writing ever produced.

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The idea of slavery has been perverted through time. There was a time people were taken to incorporate.

Are you implying that there is a version of slavery that is not perverted?

My modern 21st century view is that any form of slavery is evil. This includes the slavery that was permitted, and even encouraged, in the Bible.

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

Before coming to any conclusion I think it best to give it full consideration. What else could it be other than just a piece of crap?

Romans 13 wrote:

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3 For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and you will be commended. 4 For the one in authority is God’s servant for your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They are God’s servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5 Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also as a matter of conscience.

6 This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God’s servants, who give their full time to governing. 7 Give to everyone what you owe them: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

I don't know how the Bible could be any more clear. The American Revolution would never have happened if people followed the Bible.

jerlands wrote:

Before coming to any conclusion I think it best to give it full consideration. What else could it be other than just a piece of crap?

I have no idea what you are saying.
No offense meant, but is English your first language? I don't know what I'm dealing with when you say such things as above that really don't mean anything specific.

I don't know how the Bible could be any more clear. The American Revolution would never have happened if people followed the Bible.

jerlands wrote:

ekename wrote:

More akin to old wives' tales bound up as a textbook.

I'll try though... if it were just a simple tale (tail) I doubt it would have had such an impact.

Really?

The most simple stories and concepts are going to be the ones most people latch onto.

The bible exists because so many people need something to follow, rather than forging their own path.

Even if you leave out the atrocities, killings, rape, dietary, dress restrictions etc. and leave the "good or useful" parts, it's no more than some common sense on how to treat others.

The bible exists because so many people need something to follow, rather than forging their own path.

Even if you leave out the atrocities, killings, rape, dietary, dress restrictions etc. and leave the "good or useful" parts, it's no more than some common sense on how to treat others.

It exists because some decided to put it together. In essence, it shows that humans were prone to speak for their chosen deity, and would actually justify the murder of other human beings by claiming that their deity of choice endorses such things. Perhaps the lesson to be learned from the Bible is that people tend to attribute their own prejudices (fears) to their chosen deity, and will act atrociously in that deity's name.