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"Is Michael Jackson, guilty?"

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jun, 2005 10:13 pm
osso, Very good point; we must be given the benefit of the doubt in a trial. False accusations have ruined too many lives, and executed too many innocent people. It's up to the judge, jury and attorneys to make our system of justice work for all of us because it's the only thing we've got.
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Tue 14 Jun, 2005 11:38 pm
I agree, CI, what'er' the trial. Sometimes it's hard.
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Zane
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jun, 2005 05:46 pm
http://apnews.myway.com/article/20050618/D8AQ22780.html

Juror Attends Jackson Family's Big Party

SANTA YNEZ, Calif. (AP) - Michael Jackson's family and fans - and at least one of the jurors who acquitted him of child molestation - gathered Friday night for a huge party that was billed as a celebration of thanks.

The pop star himself, who has not appeared in public since his 14-week trial ended Monday, was nowhere in sight.

Among the approximately 400 people who arrived at the Chumash Indian Casino was juror Pauline Coccoz. When she walked into the casino and heard Jackson's music playing, Coccoz said, the enormity of what had transpired hit her.

"They were playing 'Beat It,' and I almost started to cry," she said as she waited to enter the showroom. She said that earlier in the day, she had received a wristband needed for admission to the party.

The crowd erupted in cheers as Jackson's mother, Katherine, arrived to the sounds of the song "I'll Be There." She came on stage at the end of the show to thank her son's fans from around the world for their support.

"We couldn't have done it without you," Katherine Jackson said as her son Tito stood next to her, his hand on her shoulder.

Others spotted arriving for the show included defense attorney Robert Sanger and Jackson's magician friend, who calls himself Majestic Magnificent.

Reporters were kept out of the showroom, and an Associated Press reporter who got inside briefly was escorted out by tribal police. Casino officials said they had orders from the Jackson family to keep all journalists out.

Tito Jackson has been performing periodically at the casino, and he had been scheduled to appear Friday night before it was decided to turn the show into what one of his band members called a celebration of thanks.

Coccoz said that when someone gave her the wristbands she decided to bring her family, partly as a public display of her confidence in the jury's verdict.

After the trial ended Monday, Coccoz, 45, was among the jurors who criticized the testimony of the accuser's mother. Coccoz also questioned the woman's parenting choices.

"What mother in her right mind would ... just freely volunteer your child to sleep with someone, and not so much Michael Jackson but anyone, for that matter?" Coccoz said Monday.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sat 18 Jun, 2005 08:38 pm
That looks very bad, IMO.

Like returning to the scene of the crime...so to speak...
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Joe Nation
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jun, 2005 05:19 am
Wasn't the mother expecting Micheal to rollover, so to speak, and write out a big check? Didn't she press the con job too far?



Joe(never try to con someone of money they don't have)Nation
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jun, 2005 10:51 am
Maybe, just maybe, another child making the charge of molestation against Jackson would have won by having "proved beyond reasonable doubt." This case that just ended didn't do that, so I'm happy to see Jackson won.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jun, 2005 10:28 pm
The mother could have been a huge con artist. That has NO bearing on the continuous sexual impropriety accusations...and resulting pay-offs by Jackson.

You want to defend a 43 year old man sleeping with little boys?
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 19 Jun, 2005 10:42 pm
Not particularly, no.

However, not in this last case has the evidence been brought to bear.

Indicators around a person don't always mean fire.
<she says, thinking now they do>
<she argues with self, don't be so sure>

Well, in any case, this is one potential case of child abuse, or.. Not.

There are many children to look after in daily life past this particular blip in the road.
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I Support Michael
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2005 04:38 pm
Why do all of you ass holes want to make it out that michael is a bad person i love michael to death he is a royal sweet heart he went around to the hospitals and handed out toys to the children there who were sick or hospitalized with cancer
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2005 05:19 pm
I_Support,

Would you change your opinion of Michael if you found out he actually had sex with children?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2005 05:38 pm
e_brown, That's not a fair question, and you know it! It's like asking you, "do you beat your wife?"
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2005 05:43 pm
I think it is a fair question. All he asked is would it make a difference. Yes, it would. No, it wouldn't.

Easy.
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Synonymph
 
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Reply Fri 24 Jun, 2005 06:17 pm
Michael Musto (Village Voice) wrote:
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Zane
 
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Reply Sat 25 Jun, 2005 06:38 am
I was going to post that. You read the Voice?
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Morganna
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 08:38 am
Michael Jackson's Innocence
People who belive that Michael is guilty are very foolish, in that it is almost like wishing that the children (in question) had been molested and abused! Why would anyone want something so evil to have taken place? He's innocent, get over it.
I do belive he has mental issues that need dealing with (due to his own backgroud and being so famous/successful/rich he's never had to deal with reality) but he's no monster, far form it. Any abuse that he does indulge in he takes out purely on himself and would never hurt anyone else.
Also, what about the parents of Gavin Ventura-Arvizo? Shouldn't they go to trial for the psychological rape of their son?
To force your child to say such things is almost like doing 'it' to them yourself.

Keep the Faith,

Morganna. xx
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Synonymph
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 09:02 am
If we just pretend the bad people aren't real, maybe they'll go away.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 30 Jun, 2005 09:10 am
Morganna, You have it spot on! The people who wish to find Jackson guilty has absolutely no evidence. All they can claim is "where there's smoke, there's fire." An analogy that has nothing to do with Jackson's lifestyle which is wierd by most standards of behavior for a forty year old. It's also true that another child making the case for abuse may have won the suit, but we can't go by what just transpired. In this country, we must be presumed innocent until found guilty of any charge of crime. That standard has not been met at the last trial.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 11:53 am
http://www.msnusers.com/_Secure/0SwCz*zUYWrkfsh2TFSrqyOrUgj6dDtfaUc7UlyWOt3nEQMmppnNmrD2mgWQM1vIM2rh5sF5YsYf5YH*bBiFpBKnwEl3iZlfefyN8rq3*rHMZ4ZfZz0pCsw/celebration.jpg

Where there's smoke, there's always fire.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 12:02 pm
Re: Michael Jackson's Innocence
Morganna wrote:
People who belive that Michael is guilty are very foolish, in that it is almost like wishing that the children (in question) had been molested and abused! Why would anyone want something so evil to have taken place? He's innocent, get over it.
I do belive he has mental issues that need dealing with (due to his own backgroud and being so famous/successful/rich he's never had to deal with reality) but he's no monster, far form it. Any abuse that he does indulge in he takes out purely on himself and would never hurt anyone else.
Also, what about the parents of Gavin Ventura-Arvizo? Shouldn't they go to trial for the psychological rape of their son?
To force your child to say such things is almost like doing 'it' to them yourself.

Keep the Faith,

Morganna. xx


You know Michael personally?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 1 Jul, 2005 12:03 pm
You are a sick person, cjhsa if you consider that picture to be funny!
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