blatham wrote:For that, I apologize.  My time right now is limited and i confess I have an ongoing philosophical disagreement with thomas and george which I focused on.
 
Being new, I didn't understand that you were having this ongoing disagreement with thomas and george.
That would also explain why I might not have realized the implications of bill's comment, dlowan.
It's rather difficult to try to become part of a community if, on the one hand, one is welcomed by the overwhelming majority; yet, on the other hand, one unknowingly is walking into ongoing 'disagreements' for which one has no background.  The operative term would be DOUBLE-BIND.  Luckily, it has not happened with others here (so far).