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Dean to seek chairmanship of Democrats

 
 
PDiddie
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 04:15 am
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 6:33 pm, I wrote:
Lash wrote:
Dean alienates an entire demographic within four months.

He completely reverses a previous position within three months.

...


For $100, Lash says (in another thread) we're on for the second one, above.

Clock is running.


Kick.
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 22 Mar, 2005 10:04 am
I didn't forget.
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PDiddie
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2005 06:57 am
Howard Dean gets religion - the old school kind

Following the 2004 electoral defeat, no member of the Democratic party showed greater openness to religious and moral values issues than newly elected party chair Howard Dean. His previously best-known comment on religious issues was his embarrassing pick of Job as his favorite New Testament book, and Judas as his favorite disciple. Not only is Job not in the New Testament, but he pronounced it with a short "o" sound, as in, "I need a job." Despite frantic corrections by aides, including assurances that "he meant the other Judas," the damage was done.

But during a dark night of the soul immersed in polling data, demographic reports, No-Doz, and late-night televangelists, Dean recently experienced what he describes as a "touch of Holy Ghost power" as he prayed for God to grant him and his party political success. Friends speculate it may have just been an unusually strong static shock that resulted when Dean knelt before his 56-inch projection television and placed his hands on the screen as instructed by TV preacher Robert Tilton.

http://www.sojo.net/images/sojomail/050401_dean.jpg
Hallelujaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!

But whether zapped by the Holy Spirit or excess electrons, Dean's already boisterous speaking style has been imbued with a religious fervor and a penchant for God-talk rivaling opponents on the Right, as demonstrated at a recent press conference: "Bush's plan for social security is ill-conceived and must be rejected. Puh-raise Gawd! Amen. Hallelujah. Next question - thank you JEE-ah-sus-ah!"

"I'd like to believe he's sincere, but it just feels like one-upsmanship," muttered Rev. Jerry Falwell irritably through his respirator. "I mean, he's already added two extra syllables to his pronunciation of the Lord's name, where most of us settle for a mere JEE-sus-ah. Who's he trying to impress?"

Friends on The Left also have concerns. "True, we wanted Howard to embrace a moral and religious vocabulary," said one DNC operative who declined to be named. "But now he keeps quoting this King James smack from Revelation about beasts and crowns and cups of wrath. We wanted MLK lite, not Oral freakin' Roberts."

While insiders and outsiders alike debate his life expectancy as party chair, other members of the progressive religious community are offering their perspective. Jim Wallis' newest book, God's Politics II: Why the Right Still Gets It Wrong, and the Left Got Too Much and Is Weirding Out Its Friends and Isn't Invited to Parties Anymore is already a New York Times best-seller.

(Happy April Fools Day.)
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nimh
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2005 08:33 am
Lash wrote:
How quickly we forget...

I told you you had a demerit.

You must not have been paying attention--which would normally earn you another demerit. <impatient sigh> [..]

However, I would like to send you off in search of your personality. It has been conspicuously absent, and the impersonation by this other dour, cranky fellow is rather sad.

Wow, I never saw that. That was hell of an ironic post, wasn't it, considering who it was posted by? You turned positively and increasingly unrecognazible the three-four months after the elections, Lash, from temperamentful but charming at times and sincerely curious to ... yeah ... who knows what happened there exactly. But it wasnt pretty. I'd come to expect you to start posting Gunga-style pictures next any time.

Anyway, I knew what was happening with your sig there - asking about it was just my gentle way of telling you to quit the childishness already. Glad you did. Next time I'll be less subtle (damn fancypansy Europeans with their underhanded subtleties ...)
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Lash
 
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Reply Fri 1 Apr, 2005 05:29 pm
You were just as Dookiestix as anyone else.

When the bitter libs started getting weirder than usual after the election, everyone started shifting into their corners. I never claimed any immunity to provocation, or even mild temptation.

You've been far from subtle plenty of times. Do as you please. I could hardly fault anyone for saying what they mean.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 09:16 pm
I'd forgotten that I'd even started this thread.

Poking around while I wait for some water to boil, thought I'd see what was happening on another old thread, and found this.

PDiddie wrote:
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 6:33 pm, I wrote:
Lash wrote:
Dean alienates an entire demographic within four months.

He completely reverses a previous position within three months.

...


For $100, Lash says (in another thread) we're on for the second one, above.

Clock is running.


Kick.


10 days to go on that second one.

<I wouldna bet either way on this. American politics is too weird. I haven't even managed to vote in my own poll in my own thread.>
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 09:21 pm
Yes. I've been keeping up with it. They've locked the gnashing psycho in a dungeon somewhere, and won't let him speak. PDiddie must have told them about the bet.

Doesn't look good for my hunnert, though.

Where has Dean been? Whether or not I lose the bet, as soon as they let him out, he'll start burying himself. Just likely not soon enough to buy me a nice pair of shoes. Guess PDid's wife will get them---but, I imagine she could use something to make her forget her woes. Poor thing.
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Dookiestix
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 09:37 pm
It would seem as though the "howl" is the only thing the neocons have at the moment...
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 09:48 pm
Well, I googled him, and he's ooot and abooot, doing political stuff - only the National Ledge (whoever they are) seem to be following his doings with any regularity.

He does have plans for Friday which a few papers have noted.



Quote:
Howard Dean to Speak to Ark. Democrats


Tuesday April 5, 2005 2:46 AM

LITTLE ROCK (AP) - Howard Dean, former governor of Vermont and now chairman of the Democratic National Committee, will be the keynote speaker Friday at the Association of State Democratic Chairs luncheon.

Dean will highlight the committee's agenda to strengthen the state parties in his speech.

``We are excited about Governor Dean's first visit to Arkansas as Democratic National Committee Chairman,'' said Jason Willett, chairman of the Democratic Party of Arkansas.

Willett said Dean shares many values with Arkansans. ``He is a fiscal conservative and a social progressive who has a strong record of fighting for seniors and working families,'' he said.

As governor, Dean helped Vermont pay off much of its debt, balanced the budget 11 times and lowered income taxes twice. He also championed a health-care plan under which 96 percent of Vermont's children have health-care coverage.

``Governor Dean recognizes the importance of state Democratic parties to Democratic grassroots efforts nationwide, and is committed to making the strenghtening of state parties a priority with the DNC,'' Willett said.


guardian link



<his state budget history DOES look good - for any politician, anywhere>
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Lash
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 09:51 pm
In a few days, I'll have to Google every syllable he's uttered. Might find something that meets the standard for the bet--but, I think the odds are it would have been in print.

Maybe not, though.....


<strategically raises eyebrow, nods knowingly>
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 09:58 pm
errrr National Ledger, not Ledge Embarrassed


I can't find any position reversal. He hated Santorum before, seems to still hate him (and that's what the Ledger is focused on). It may still show up (9 days in 3 minutes).
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revel
 
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Reply Tue 5 Apr, 2005 10:10 pm
I have to say that I am beginning to agree with lash on this one with some of his more regretable comments like the brain dead comment and the one about blacks and hotels.

The bet aside, can anyone tell me how he is doing as as far as organizing the party, excluding his stupid comments?
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 01:38 pm
PDiddie wrote:
On Tuesday, February 15, 2005, at 6:33 pm, I wrote:
Lash wrote:
Dean alienates an entire demographic within four months.

He completely reverses a previous position within three months.

...


For $100, Lash says (in another thread) we're on for the second one, above.

Clock is running.


Kick.


draggin' on up

how many days left?

less than 5 now

(I really thought something was gonna happen during the Schiavo front-page-ness)
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 01:41 pm
and he's not locked in the cupboard

Quote:
Democratic Party Chairman Howard Dean said Friday that the national party will invest almost half a million dollars in state parties in Missouri, North Carolina, North Dakota and West Virginia.

All four states were won by President Bush in the 2004 presidential election.

"This is just the beginning," Dean told state Democratic chairs at a meeting of their association in Little Rock, Ark. "We will announce additional investments in the weeks ahead."

Dean has been to 14 states in his two months as chairman and has pledged to build state parties all across the nation, including in states dominated by Republicans.


he's out there

talking

but not being very controversial
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 07:23 pm
It's a clone.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Sun 10 Apr, 2005 07:27 pm
<grin>
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 05:57 pm
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and he's still talking


Quote:
Howard Dean will headline conference on civic engagement


Quote:
Dean's speech will be the climax of a daylong event hosted by Associated Students of WSU Vancouver titled "Civic Engagement in the United States -- Revival or Decline? Views from the National, State and Local Levels."

"We were attracted to Dean as a speaker because of his ability as a politician to bring new voters into the electorate," said Carolyn Long, an associate professor of political science at WSU Vancouver.

Dean became a sensation during the Democratic primary election campaign because of his dynamic campaigning style and use of the Internet to involve supporters and raise money through small donations. His momentum began to sag early in 2004, however, and Massachusetts Sen. John Kerry surged past him.

Dean is now chairman of the Democratic National Committee.

Long said Dean's candidacy was emblematic of the spike in voter interest during the 2004 election. The presidential campaign prompted a 60.7 percent voter turnout, the highest level since 1968, according to the Center for the Study of the American Electorate in Washington, D.C.

The turnout was a reversal of a trend, noted by many, away from civic involvement in the United States.

"As a political scientist, I am alarmed about the lack of engagement I see among the electorate, and I want to find ways to improve it," Long said.

Also speaking during afternoon sessions is a panorama of public officials, from mayors to county commissioners to former governors.


http://www.oregonlive.com/metronorth/oregonian/index.ssf?/base/metro_north_news/1113299905252820.xml
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sozobe
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 07:12 pm
I got an email from him today that I liked a lot, about the need to do grassroots work NOW, not wait until 2008, and how he's making that happen.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 07:14 pm
Yup - the news that is out there is about what is going on now, campaign offices opening sooner rather than later.

Not really party-splitting news.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Tue 12 Apr, 2005 07:20 pm
Dean is doing the right thing; taking it slow, while engaging the same base that supported him so strongly last year and the year before.

If he can really get the roots organized, we can not only take control of the party, but the nation...

Cycloptichorn
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