Dean to seek chairmanship of Democrats

Just for the sake of keeping alive our friendly discussion, why should the US have nukes?

Snood - I don't want to derail this thread with a discussion that would be better suited elsewhere (and I'm sure it has, many times over).

Briefly, I agree with the leaders of this country (past and present) that our nuclear weapons policy of deterrence has been successful.

Officially stated:

"The Department of Defense continues to plan for a broad range of contingencies and unforeseen threats to the United States and its allies. We do so in order to deter such attacks in the first place."

Well, if you're worried about derailing something, maybe you shoulda thought about it before you wrote



and if you have concerns about derailing, or polarizing and derailing, or
perhaps just polluting with broadsided negativity, you could have stopped way short of this



In fact, never mind - just don't bother with any pretensions about being concerned with respecting the subject matter on this, or any thread - after all, who's sh*ttin' who? You just keep trolling until you find more strawman "leftwing" things to trash, and I'll just continue to report how bogus you are.

Whatever gets you through your day, Snood.

You sound pretty angry, though. Might want to work on that a bit. Can't be too healthy.

Thank you. But I'll start needing your advice on emotional health about the same time as I start looking in the philosophy section of the library for a book written by George W. Bush.

Well. Dean hasn't committed verbal Hari Kari in the last week.

What has he ben doing? Anyone?

(I bet the Dems have him locked in a basement--with tape over his mouth.)

He was speaking at a Cornell University rally on Thursday (nothing all too interesting in the article tho) and spoke before a fired-up crowd hundreds large in Kansas City on Friday, after a Thursday night speech at Washburn University in Topeka. The Kansas City Star reports that it "is the first of several [trips] he plans to make to red states in the months ahead": "Dean has said he is serious about fulfilling a pledge made when he was elected chairman earlier this month to take the party's message to all parts of the country". He got the GOP chairman to publicly react, which meant a publicity hit for the to-and-fro and "during his stay in Kansas, [he] attended several fund-raisers aimed at enriching the coffers of the state Democratic Party." Dean also "received a raucous welcome" in Lawrence, Kan., where he spoke on Friday.

Next week, the Kackson Clarion-Ledger reports, Dean will be in Mississippi, because "Democrats are not going to give up on supposedly Republican states." His visit is the first time since July 2001 a Democratic National Committee chairman appeared in Mississippi, where Democrats still hold more county elected positions and legislative seats than Republicans. Dean pledged that the DNC will put extra people on the payroll in Mississippi to try to beef up the party's activities in the state.

Deans unexpected visits to these red heartland states yielded the media coverage in the local media he was probably going for (Kansas City Star, Lawrence Journal World, The Arkansas City Traveler, Jackson Clarion Ledger, Pittsburg Morning Sun, WIBW, WTOK), but also some attention elsewhere and in the national media (CNN, ABC, Seattle Post Intelligencer, San Francisco Chronicle, The National Ledger in AZ, etc).

(edited to add:) Its apparently all part of Dean's so-called "50-state strategy", the American Daily notes: "Look at what he plans to do in the reddest red state of them all, Nebraska. Last year - an election year - the DNC poured a paltry $12,000 into the state. Dean plans to pump $250,000 per year into Nebraska, starting this year. These funds will be used to promote city, county, state and federal candidates for office. His plan is to grow the farm team [..]"

Well. I am glad they haven't decided to write off more than half the country.

I was astonished when Kerry said he had.

Actually:

The "Grassroots" that got Dean where he is now may be a good way to reach "Reds".

"The Bellman himself they all praised to the skies--
Such a carriage, such ease and such grace!
Such solemnity, too! One could see he was wise,
The moment one looked in his face!

He had bought a large map representing the sea,
Without the least vestige of land:
And the crew were much pleased when they found it to be
A map they could all understand.

"What's the good of Mercator's North Poles and Equators,
Tropics, Zones, and Meridian Lines?"
So the Bellman would cry: and the crew would reply
"They are merely conventional signs!

"Other maps are such shapes, with their islands and capes!
But we've got our brave Captain to thank:
(So the crew would protest) "that he's bought us the best--
A perfect and absolute blank!"

-- Lewis Carroll,
"The Hunting of the Snark", Fit the Second

Just checking in after 6 month gap...

Have I got some reading to do

on second thoughts.....

:}

steve! you are of course meeting us in london May 1!!!!

Well, when someone kidnaps planes loaded with innocents, cuts the stewardesses' throats, and runs the planes through city skyscrapers killing thousands, personally I don't think it is simplistic to call them evil doers. In fact it is accurate. Such a situation actually is fairly black and white and would appropriately be described as "us-vs-them." The truth is that his descriptions are congruent and appropriate to the situation, unlike those of your camp who are simply living in a dream world. Would you care to go for the million dollar stupidity prize and tell me that there's no such thing as evil?

Yes I certainly hope to be there for the A2K May Day parade. See you then Dyxsie

Its a lot easier to just call them evil than to try to understand what drove them to commit such a crime.

Steve:

Alas, what happens when that understanding leads to US.

Read House Of Bush--House Of Saud

Thanks I'll try and find a copy.

Its my contention that they wouldn't be over here trying to kill us, if we hadn't spend the entire last century trying to control their oil.

Heh, JW. Like your alternate way of bringing an argument ;-)

Sure, sure, it may be helpful to understand what made Al Qaeda murder thousands of innocents, but the description "evil doer" is certainly an accurate and apt one, and anyone who doesn't thing so is probably naive. But this is getting off the thread topic, so perhaps anyone who is interested should start a new thread.

Naw, too many who think like you have the natural advantage on winning that particular prize. Yes, Brandon, there's evil in the world. But if my next door neighbor punches me in the nose I'll retaliate in kind to him, I won't go beat up my across the street neighbor on the outside chance he's thinking of doing the same. That's the morass your president backed us into on the pretense of chasing "evildoers". Of course, that rationalization has morphed since, from "connections with 9/11" into "preventing the proliferation of WMDs" into "spreading freedom", but that's another kind of stupidity. Your president has lots of different kinds - and his blind followers even more.