Evolutionry/religious nonsense

It is one thing to teach and preach cows can morph into whales or monkeys can morph into human beings, That complex life forms like bacteria can be created by ‘chemical soups’ too...

But to teach that life is meaningless ( even if you do not realize or acknowledge this is the core of your teaching) Is even more terrible then teaching evolutionism for sure. Some serious misinformation! A lie through and through!

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@vikorr,

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Yep. Life really is meaningless without the true God or eternal life.
I disagree. I find a lot of meaning in life, and I don't need eternal life to find meaning (seriously, if you can't find it in this life, how are you going to find it in eternal life).

The Crux of the matter is the misdefining of the word "eternal."
This is not merely semantics, but an important misinterpretation of the word that has really screwed up religion for centuries. Eternal does not mean unending life and especially does not mean life after death. Eternal simply means outside the field of time, the eternal here and now. In other words, if you don't get it now you'll never get it.

The word you're looking for is eviternal, an obsolete word resurrected by Joseph Campbell, which does mean unending time.

When religion invented the supernatural, it completely displaced the true importance of religion. Religion is a feeling that wells up from the psyche and means feeling a connection to the whole or being a part of the whole system. Also the word "holy" is a corruption of the word "whole". "Holy" also suggests a screwed-up association with an imaginary supernatural.

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@coluber2001,

You get that by meditation; the example being Buddhism. All religions are man made creations to control the masses. the Bible with thousands of pages with so many errors, omissions and contradictions, one must give up logic to accept its teachings. The christian religion is only 2,000 years old; man have walked this planet for 200,000. We evolved from the primate family of animals. These are proven by science and evidence. The reason there are over 1,000 religions only proves that man has a need for some supreme being above humans; and gods were created. Here's a simple human directive that covers everything: "Treat all living things with respect and dignity." You don't need thousands of words in a book to teach the fundamentals of ethics.

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@cicerone imposter,

Excellent! That's the true message of religion, not any supernatural gunk. The function of religion should be to resolve the feeling of separation from nature that we have with consciousness.

Alan Watts said that churches should be regarded as hospitals, that is, to help us heal the breach of separation from nature that we feel with consciousness, and not to keep us permanently as patients.

The trouble with the word religion is mere semantics. Call it what you want, it doesn't matter.

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@coluber2001,

you’re not religious? Yes, yes u are....Every single person on the planet is religious.
Nobody knows it all. Everyone has faith of some sort. Even the people who believe in unintelligent design, and believe no life after death....right?

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@Helloandgoodbye,

I like Alan Watts's definition of belief and faith. He said belief is a holding on to, and faith is letting go. In other words belief is hard and rigid and unbending, but faith is fluid. I think it's better to have a fluid consciousness.

Animals, plants, and even rocks live in the eternal. Our consciousness makes us feel that we're separate, but we're not. We all live in the
eternal, and we can't escape it.

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@cicerone imposter,

Is that what u found through your research? That biblical scriptures (the 66 books the bible consists of) started or were all written 2,000 years ago?

Just as you have found errors and contradictions....interesting, cause I have concluded MUch different.

Just as I have concluded that it seems ppl have to give up logic to embrace evolutionism.
Thx again for your opinions tho;)

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@coluber2001,

That tells me you do not know at all, and you are religious. Thanks for clarifying that.

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@Helloandgoodbye,

http://www.coppit.org/god/contradictions.php Some claim the contradictions were purposely included. Now, that's logical. LOL.

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@cicerone imposter,

To address the very first alleged error I read in your link:
http://defendinginerrancy.com/bible-solutions/1_Kings_7.23.php
Kinda like saying so and so was 9feet tall...accurate and true

There is a whole website there for you to compare other ‘findings’ of yours too😉

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@cicerone imposter,

Also remember that u teach all your ‘’meaningful’ input Is ultimately Trumped by the meaningless universe and its death. Nothing will come out of anything u have to say right?

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@cicerone imposter,

Also keep in mind, just as ppl can find nearly unending misinformation on sites that promote evolutionism, you can find misinformation on sites like you just linked.

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@cicerone imposter,

You are wasting your time trying to convince 'irrational believers' about what you and others like us recognise as rational. That is because the very self integrity of religious believers hinges on their parochial belief systems An atttack on those is perceived as an attack on themselves. Fortunately the global variance of such irrationalities nowadays tends to render them collectively impotent in influencing major epistemological progress. But don't expect the Pope versus Galileo scenario ever to completely disappear. There are too many psychological vested interests operating insulating believers from the 'horror' of the void of personal insignificance.

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@Leadfoot,

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But enough about me, you introduced something new to the discussion - That WE are what gives meaning to existence.

Actually what I said is that we create our own "Meaning of life", not "we are what gives meaning to existence". I think there is an important distinction there.

The "Meaning of life" is a colloquial phrase which has more to with perception than anything empirical.

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@fresco,

Why do you guys keep referring to yourself as non-religious? No one knows it all right?
Is your religious position the same as CI? Seems so.

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@Helloandgoodbye,

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1 KINGS 7:23—DOESN’T THE CALCULATION IN THIS VERSE REPRESENT AN INACCURATE VALUE OF PI?

PROBLEM: According to 1 Kings 7:23, Hiram constructed a “Sea of cast bronze ten cubits from one brim to the other; it was completely round. Its height was five cubits, and a line of thirty cubits measured its circumference.” From this report we learn that the ratio of the circumference to the diameter is three to one. However, this is an inaccurate value of pi which is actually 3.14159.
SOLUTION: This is not an error. The biblical record of the various measurements of the different parts of the temple are not necessarily designed to provide precise scientific or mathematical calculations. Rather, the Scripture simply provides a reasonable approximation. The rounding of numbers or the reporting of approximate values or measurements was a common practice in ancient times when exact scientific calculations were not used.

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This excerpt is from When Critics Ask: A Popular Handbook on Bible Difficulties (Wheaton, Ill.: Victor Books, 1992). © 2014 Norman Geisler and Thomas Howe. All rights reserved. Used by permission. Click here to purchase this book.

Define completely. com·plete·ly
/kəmˈplētlē/
adverb
1.
totally; utterly: If this was the only inaccuracy in the Bible, most of us can "let it go," but there are too many errors and contradictions in the Bible. Here's a good starting point; good as any. https://carm.org/genesis-deuteronomy 1 King 7:23. ...it was completely round. com·plete·ly
/kəmˈplētlē/
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totally; utterly:

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@Helloandgoodbye,

Epistemological progress (knowing) is by its very nature forever subject to constant revision and modification. Only misguided 'religious believers' think they have access to something 'fixed' they like to call 'truth'. Calling my position 'a religious one' merely displays your epistemological ignorance.

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@fresco,

That sounds like a statement of truth to me. Hahaha, love it!

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@cicerone imposter,

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... it was completely round.

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