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Evolutionry/religious nonsense

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 05:08 pm
@nacredambition,
I don't need "proof," only irrefutable "evidence." LOL.
farmerman
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 05:45 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Announcer:"CAN BULLWINKLE EXTRICATE HIMSELF BEFORE NEXT WEEKS SHOW??"

Bullwinkle:"I WILL IF I CAN GET LOOSE" Wink
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 07:35 pm
@nacredambition,
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Astound us all, regale us with your tales of meeting god once or thrice, what he said to you, the whole shebang.

Sure, what would you like to know?
nacredambition
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 08:00 pm
@Leadfoot,
Everything that happened.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 08:44 pm
@nacredambition,
Yeah, he should start at the beginning and not leave anything out. Want to share a tub of popcorn?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 09:50 pm
@glitterbag,
Should be entertaining.
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nacredambition
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 10:01 pm
@glitterbag,
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Want to share a tub of popcorn?


I'll be too busy out the front of the tent selling tickets to be involved in such frivolity.

But I do need a holy water refreshment waitress if you're interested.

I do so hope Leadfootlight doesn't beg off telling us about his experiences, I've already lined up Helloandgoodbye as the opening act.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 10:02 pm
@nacredambition,
So you don’t know what it is you’re looking for?
I’m not here to be a life coach, you have to ask your own questions.
glitterbag
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 10:15 pm
@Leadfoot,
You do know, I hope, that life coaches (however trendy), are just nonsense. Everybody here is fine, enjoy your beliefs....no one is taking them away from you...return the favor, and stop proselytizing and trying to ridicule others for coming to different conclusions. Stop trying to preach that a heavenly father only cares for obedient children......maybe it's a heavenly mother? When it gets down to the bottom line, when we die we are either heading to a destination or it closes to nothing. Either way, we don't know......we will either be in paradise and if there is no paradise or hell.....we won't know or care.

So, nothing wrong with thinking that you have a hammer lock on heaven, either you will be shaking hands with St. Peter or just never wake up.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:16 pm
@glitterbag,
Nobody knows, because religion is based on "faith." I do not believe it's even a 50/50 proposition. I think it's .09% for and 99.01% against that there's anything after we live out our lives on this planet. I come to that conclusion only because of what we do know about the age of planet earth and the evolution of Homo sapiens. Science pretty much explains about life on this planet, and how life came to be. Besides all that, the Christian religion is a late-comer, having been established only 2,000 years ago on a planet where man has existed for 200,000 years. We must consider all the other religions created in different countries and cultures at different periods of Homo sapiens, many earlier than the Christian god. It seems the creation of gods is a necessary component of human society.
vikorr
 
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Reply Thu 14 Feb, 2019 11:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
What I don't get is why do people feel the need for a reward after they die, in order to go about being the best they can be here in this life?

So they go about bettering themselves because of an external reward / fear (ie eternal life / hell), and they do it because...otherwise...as laughoutloud put it...(they think) it's 'all for nothing'. This doesn't make sense, at all to me - I find it a sad, self detrimental view that lessens the quality of peoples lives. Be the best you can be, because deep within you, you're found that is something truly worthwhile to strive for. Have sought this within, and desired to better who you are / your life - this attitude then rewards you deep within yourself, constantly with peace, contentment, less strife, greater love and acceptance for others, and their journeys. In this case, the internal reward isn't the motivation, but a consequence of seeking to better yourself.

I wonder why they feel they need someone else to tell them what the truth is (eg. the 'truth' contained within the bible), rather than working to find and use time tested methods to identify truth, test truth, and eventually understand truth - for themselves.

Surely, regarding the above, if the bible is correct, those using such methods will come to the same conclusions anyway.

And given that, I wonder why they condescend and patronise people who have taken paths other than theirs, and come to different conclusions. It's quite unchristian.

I wonder why they engage in hypocrisy, claiming to love others as themselves, and so obviously thinking themselves superior to others.
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2019 12:35 am
The belief in one's own religious rectitude fosters the belief that one is superior. If one adheres to a particular confession because of such a conviction, then obviously all others are wrong. In liberal democracies which tolerate differences of political and religious conviction, such a belief in one's spiritual superiority is inevitable. I know I am right, and therefore all others are wrong, and their religious convictions are therefore inferior to mine.
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2019 12:43 am
Thx for your recent opinions guys, but from my experience, we can be 99.99999% sure why we are here, how we got here, how to live, and whereto after this life.
Many ppl in here have clearly demonstrated they ‘don’t care’ and post nothing but misinformation.
Big part of it is what we Hope for.
Do you hope atheism/evolutionism is true? Or that the God of Israel is true, and that a person can CHoose eternal life?
When that choice will have to be made, what will u choose?! (Or have u chosen already 🤔)

Hope U choose life! Deuteronomy 30:19
Setanta
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2019 01:39 am
Case in point . . .
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Helloandgoodbye
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2019 03:59 am
Just got to follow the evidence where it leads, no emotions attached
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vikorr
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2019 04:54 am
@Helloandgoodbye,
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Do you hope atheism/evolutionism is true? Or that the God of Israel is true
You apparently completely missed the gist of my post.

That aside, as I said previously, where I came from holds little meaning to me (ie whether evolution or creationism holds little meaning to me). Where I'm going, in this life, is much, much more important. Probably you'll not understand that either.
Leadfoot
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2019 05:39 am
What delicious irony. On a site called Able 2 Know, we have all these people telling you that, wait for it - “You can't”.
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Leadfoot
 
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Reply Fri 15 Feb, 2019 05:53 am
@vikorr,
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I wonder why they feel they need someone else to tell them what the truth is (eg. the 'truth' contained within the bible), rather than working to find and use time tested methods to identify truth, test truth, and eventually understand truth - for themselves.
That is in fact the method recommended in the book.

Here is one way I think about this life. Assuming it exists, I would not want to spend eternity anywhere with any man or woman who had not been through this life and understood what it was for. If you've done that, I don’t care where you got it from.
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IAmSilly
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jul, 2019 03:20 pm
@dalehileman,
Isn't it possible that science, when contemplating the origins of the universe ("big bang") is telling the same story that Christianity is telling, just using different words and metaphors?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 11 Jul, 2019 03:26 pm
@IAmSilly,
There's a huge difference between creation and evolution. Creation means some god created earth. Evolution means it was nature as defined by science. I, personally, do not believe in the "Big Bang" theory. I believe evolution is a slow process that takes millions, if not, billions of years. If you ever get a chance to visit the Galapagos Islands, I highly recommend it. They also have a Charles Darwin Research Center that you can visit. https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2015/02/150211141238.htm
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